Posted by Former Oracle Employee on June 4th 2009, 3:35pm
With little or no direct access to what Oracle Fusion HCM will be or when the full HCM suite, completely redone under the Fusion brand, will be delivered, there's no possible answer but no. But could a complete, contemporary, and brilliant redo of their EBS HCM have a significant impact on the market when and if it's delivered, of course it could, but only if it arrives soon enough to make a difference.
Posted by Naomi Bloom on June 4th 2009, 3:41pm
Oracle has faced significant delays gettting the latest versions of PSFT and EBS out the door. For instance, Oracle hasn't released a new version of PSFT in more than 3 years! Fusion is a total mess...just think about the effort to reconcile PSFT and EBS and rearchitect them onto a commom platform. Then there's the maturity aspect. Once Fusion HCM is released, it will not likely be on functional parity with either PSFT or EBS. So getting customers to migrate - and with a support structure in place for existing apps until 2013/14 - will be extremely difficult. My sense is Fusion HCM won't be ready for primetime for another 3-4 years. At that point, the market will have already passed Oracle by (as it is currently doing today). So no, Fusion HCM will not transform the market; it will continue to lag it.
Posted by Another Former Oracle Exec on June 4th 2009, 4:18pm
Oracle is taking a measured approach to releasing Fusion. It will not be the silver bullet when it comes out. They will deliver innovation, the field will get customers to deploy it, and they will add functionality over time.
Making the call based on product alone is only looking at part of the entire big picture. How the product is marketed, sold and deployed is critical. Oracle is very good at what they do.
Time will tell.
Regards, Zeev.
Fusion? What Fusion? Oracle has been talking about this for 5 years with no results. We'll probably get nuclear fusion working before Oracle delivers their Fusion product.
Posted by Neeto on June 4th 2009, 5:08pm
Sort of agree with all of the preceding comments, each in its own way. Beyond that something tells me that over the next two years we're going to be surprised in this space; something that will make the whole SAP vs. Oracle vs. EBS vs. whoever discussion obsolete. Could be elements the strategies being brought forth by Northgate Arinso, Wipro, and CaliberPoint (among others) with an emphasis on outcomes rather than technology. Could be something else entirely like commoditized HR data management and payroll truly melting into the background (perhaps into a larger shared company "cloud") and Talent Management (including recruiting and compensation) becomes the HRIS. Should be interesting.
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