In a previous life I did research in data visualization and online communities.
My current job is as a "personal assistant" to my dogs. I have two dogs, a male Shiba Inu called Sephy and a female, three legged Siberian Husky called Shania. They are both very silly and very spoilt.
My main interests are: dogs, online writing, and fantasy art.
Glad to see the majority is in line with spanking. Spanking is not beating, and beating is not good. When my dog knew her name and came to come, then I begin a very soft swat on the backside. Nothing major, just enough to instill a negative feeling. As she got older, 1 year now, I will giver her a single swat on the backside no different than I would a child.
Dog's aren't stupid, well...some are, but my breed (German Shorthair Pointers) are not. They can link the fact that they were just in the garbage to NO, and a swat 5 seconds later. My dogs can be off the leash at all times, they do not run away, I can leave my front door open and with a two lane road on the corner side of the house, it won't go into the road and I will be inside for 10 minutes while they are out front in the yard. I have countless people come up to me and tell me how good my dogs are. Any response is always, "well...I believe in disciplinary actions."
People act like spanking your child or dog is abuse. This is absurd. Go watch some national geographic films and watch how animals treat their own kind. There's no "abuse" taking place when discipline is done in a just and responsible manner.
On a side note, my ex had a dog who was unruly. It attacked my dog on a few occasions and with that dog, I would grab it by the throat. It would also go insane when other dogs would pass by. I would sit it down and apply an uncomfortable pressure to it's trachea. Needless to say, it's actions changed. So when all these people get on their hoo-haa cry me a river abuse non sense, I say go preach that crap somewhere else, because I know discipline works, first hand.
Sharon - 3 weeks ago
spanking, hitting, hurting in any way - with dogs or children - is for lazy people. Those who can't be bothered to learn ways that are just as effective, usually more effective but ways that take consistency, time attention, critical thought. We as a culture and a society will never evolve as long as we continue to condone harming other living things in any way for any reason.
Beans - 4 weeks ago
With some dogs it works...with others it doesn't work. Every dog and every breed has their own personality. My friends lab needs to be hit here and there on the butt because he is just so ignorant it's not even funny. She tried to take him through training that offered positive discipline and it did nothing. He only listens to hitting. He's still a happy go lucky lab however. He has a good life and is spoiled rotten. I don't think there is ever a time I met that dog where his tail wasn't wagging. I don't encourage people to hit their pets though...if you want to do that...be warned....the dog will probably have an issue. I know smaller dogs will show teeth and become aggressive. My Pomeranian was beaten by his previous owner. He gets into things he shouldn't and when I shout "NO" or try to clean up his mess he becomes possessive over it and tries to bite me so I had to hit him on the butt. He still tried to bite me. So I put him in time out. Time outs really help me with my problems. Sometimes my Husky will be a pain in the butt so time outs are the only answer for him and they work. I put him in the Laundry room for about 30 mins each time out. It works so I recommend time outs if at all possible.
Sam - 6 weeks ago
I just adopted a 2 yr shepherd mix thats the most WONDERFUL dog but he has a serious problem with "play" biting. I've researched bite inhibition and have tried the ignoring, take hands away, trading and "off" method and NONE of them have worked with him. He actually gets more aggressive (biting harder, scratching, ect) when I try these methods and today I had enough and grabbed his muzzle firmly and smacked my hand saying "NO". He immediately turned and grabbed one of his toys to play with. I have been struggling with these training methods for weeks because i've read all the "hitting your dog will break him" speeches and I agree that positive reinforcement training works miracles on him, but somethings require a little more umph to get the message around. Hes extremely smart and when he knew he could get away with somethings he took advantage 100%. Like someone said its all about combination training and whats approiate for the time. Disciplining them for pottying or not getting a trick right is not good. Beating them imo won't do anything for them but a couple smacks when warranted isn't a problem for me.
UkeGirl - 1 month ago
I work in Special Ed, and with severely handicapped children behavior management is quite difficult. When I used to be a substitute teaching assistant, if I would attempt to modify a student's behavior with aversive stimuli (anything from taking away something the student likes, to yelling at the student, or even maybe hitting the student), the teacher or another teaching assistand would say how important it is to stay only with positive reinforcers (offering a toy, candy, or praise). I can't tell you how many teachers and assistants have told me that research shows that positive reinforcers create an eager student, whereas negative ones make an angry and frightened students. I have found this to be true with my dog, too. Yesterday, I tried to teach him to heel with my clicker, and got mad at him and pushed him hard and yelled at him. He eventually started shivering and wouldn't even eat the treats I offerred. We had to quit the training session and start over again later. When I stuck to little peices of food and praise as reinforcers, he listened and kept a really positive attitude the whole time.
cory - 1 month ago
I raise my hand to my dogs, and they don't have behavioral issues whatsoever. one of them is 10 years old, deaf, and is obedient to the point of knowing what i expect without having to tell it. I never beat my dogs, but when i caught one of them chewing on the furniture, I made sure to hit it in the side. If I caught it started jumping up against the door because it wanted to come in, same response. However, I've never hit my dog for urinating or defecating in the house. I've always viewed that as a mistake on my part for not letting the dog out.
cory - 1 month ago
I raise my hand to my dogs, and they don't have behavioral issues whatsoever. one of them is 10 years old, deaf, and is obedient to the point of knowing what i expect without having to tell it. I never beat my dogs, but when i caught one of them chewing on the furniture, I made sure to hit it in the side. If I caught it started jumping up against the door because it wanted to come in, same response. However, I've never hit my dog for urinating or defecating in the house. I've always viewed that as a mistake on my part for not letting the dog out.
Michelle - 5 months ago
My dad use to beat my dogs when I was little it was horrible they were filled with such fear. They are pets they rely on us to feed, walk and especially love them if you get a dog that needs lots of discipline you should take it to obedient school if you say you can't afford it then you should of never of got the dog in the first place. Finally my dog (Red) a beautiful Irish Setter had enough of my dads beatings and cornerd him and scratched his face bad . After that Red went to a new home and got the love he deserve.Unfortunately I had to stay with the mean bastard. I feel people that beat animals are angry and mean people and just maybe were beat themselves... Seek help if you beat your animals it's not normal.
pain retains - 5 months ago
first off, beating your dog is never okay because eventually the dog will think you and him are on equals and its okay to fight you. second off hit, spank, slap works. pain retains, simple logic. on the same token so do reward based systems. The best is a combination of the two. see alpha dogs can not speak, they can bark, they can intimidate, but most importantly they can make other dogs feel pain. your dog nips someone; hit, spank, slap only till the dog submits. Me, i hit spank slap and then grab the dog by the neck with both hands, not choking the dog and not hurting him, and hold him down till he submits, saying no. by him feeling the pain he gets that what he did is bad, by me holding him down till he submits he understands i am in charge and that i call the shots, and lastly i re-affirm with a vocal command that the word no is only used when he is displaying behavior i do not agree with. on the same token, i constantly pet and praise my dog whenever he is behaving. treats on occasion when he does what i tell him too, and mostly i pet and hug him when he listens. treats are a rarity unless i am training him to do something new, vocal and physical praise are his main form of reward. i display to him that even around other dogs, i am the alpha and am the only one that retains the ability to inflict pain or discipline or even display dominance. now, my dog has been training for french ring sport for about a year now and is extremely well trained. no special techniques, nothing, its simple, reward for good behavior, punishment for bad, and lastly no punishment is inflicted if my dog is learning something new, only punishment for established behaviors that i expect him to perform on a daily basis. the fact of the matter is that its a constant balancing act. you must, no matter what the breed or size of dog, show your dominance. pain is the way to do it. as are rewards. its that simple, despite what we want to believe pain has a purpose, why else would we or any mammal be able to feel it if it didnt? My dog is also an American Pitbull Terrier. a seemingly vicious dog, and though i have no doubt that like every dog he has the ability to behave like an animal, pain has all but allowed him to act like an animal. to leave you all with a quote that sums up why pain is necessary for any type of learning
"Your pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses your understanding."-Khalil Gibran.
Chas - 9 months ago
The truth is that while there may be other methods, I've seen "Beating their ass" work wonders. My dog is not nearly as well behaved as my buddy's dogs, and he smacks them when they do something wrong. They are obedient, affectionate, and not aggressive or fearful in the slightest. I'm not as heavy handed with my dog, and she listens, but not 100%. I think different dogs respond to different things. The truth is "hitting" may not seem nice and might give you an icky feeling inside, but I have seen it work.
taylor - 1 year ago
U DO NOT SPANK chihuahuas. THEY R 2 SMALL IT IS WRONG AND MEAN U DO NOT SPRAY THEM EITHER STOP SPANKING THEM SMALL DOGS ANS SPRAYING THEM they r 2 small u r imature
Melissa - 2 years ago
i think that beating a dog is awful. Spanking is a different thing in my eyes. Its less painful then physically beating a dog. Its hard also to train chihuahuas. They dont like to listen very well. So spanking is what i do with mine. Or i use a water spray bottle to spray them on the nose if the have done something bad. I think that those two methods work the best for dogs. Try it out sometime.
Glad to see the majority is in line with spanking. Spanking is not beating, and beating is not good. When my dog knew her name and came to come, then I begin a very soft swat on the backside. Nothing major, just enough to instill a negative feeling. As she got older, 1 year now, I will giver her a single swat on the backside no different than I would a child.
Dog's aren't stupid, well...some are, but my breed (German Shorthair Pointers) are not. They can link the fact that they were just in the garbage to NO, and a swat 5 seconds later. My dogs can be off the leash at all times, they do not run away, I can leave my front door open and with a two lane road on the corner side of the house, it won't go into the road and I will be inside for 10 minutes while they are out front in the yard. I have countless people come up to me and tell me how good my dogs are. Any response is always, "well...I believe in disciplinary actions."
People act like spanking your child or dog is abuse. This is absurd. Go watch some national geographic films and watch how animals treat their own kind. There's no "abuse" taking place when discipline is done in a just and responsible manner.
On a side note, my ex had a dog who was unruly. It attacked my dog on a few occasions and with that dog, I would grab it by the throat. It would also go insane when other dogs would pass by. I would sit it down and apply an uncomfortable pressure to it's trachea. Needless to say, it's actions changed. So when all these people get on their hoo-haa cry me a river abuse non sense, I say go preach that crap somewhere else, because I know discipline works, first hand.
spanking, hitting, hurting in any way - with dogs or children - is for lazy people. Those who can't be bothered to learn ways that are just as effective, usually more effective but ways that take consistency, time attention, critical thought. We as a culture and a society will never evolve as long as we continue to condone harming other living things in any way for any reason.
With some dogs it works...with others it doesn't work. Every dog and every breed has their own personality. My friends lab needs to be hit here and there on the butt because he is just so ignorant it's not even funny. She tried to take him through training that offered positive discipline and it did nothing. He only listens to hitting. He's still a happy go lucky lab however. He has a good life and is spoiled rotten. I don't think there is ever a time I met that dog where his tail wasn't wagging. I don't encourage people to hit their pets though...if you want to do that...be warned....the dog will probably have an issue. I know smaller dogs will show teeth and become aggressive. My Pomeranian was beaten by his previous owner. He gets into things he shouldn't and when I shout "NO" or try to clean up his mess he becomes possessive over it and tries to bite me so I had to hit him on the butt. He still tried to bite me. So I put him in time out. Time outs really help me with my problems. Sometimes my Husky will be a pain in the butt so time outs are the only answer for him and they work. I put him in the Laundry room for about 30 mins each time out. It works so I recommend time outs if at all possible.
I just adopted a 2 yr shepherd mix thats the most WONDERFUL dog but he has a serious problem with "play" biting. I've researched bite inhibition and have tried the ignoring, take hands away, trading and "off" method and NONE of them have worked with him. He actually gets more aggressive (biting harder, scratching, ect) when I try these methods and today I had enough and grabbed his muzzle firmly and smacked my hand saying "NO". He immediately turned and grabbed one of his toys to play with. I have been struggling with these training methods for weeks because i've read all the "hitting your dog will break him" speeches and I agree that positive reinforcement training works miracles on him, but somethings require a little more umph to get the message around. Hes extremely smart and when he knew he could get away with somethings he took advantage 100%. Like someone said its all about combination training and whats approiate for the time. Disciplining them for pottying or not getting a trick right is not good. Beating them imo won't do anything for them but a couple smacks when warranted isn't a problem for me.
I work in Special Ed, and with severely handicapped children behavior management is quite difficult. When I used to be a substitute teaching assistant, if I would attempt to modify a student's behavior with aversive stimuli (anything from taking away something the student likes, to yelling at the student, or even maybe hitting the student), the teacher or another teaching assistand would say how important it is to stay only with positive reinforcers (offering a toy, candy, or praise). I can't tell you how many teachers and assistants have told me that research shows that positive reinforcers create an eager student, whereas negative ones make an angry and frightened students. I have found this to be true with my dog, too. Yesterday, I tried to teach him to heel with my clicker, and got mad at him and pushed him hard and yelled at him. He eventually started shivering and wouldn't even eat the treats I offerred. We had to quit the training session and start over again later. When I stuck to little peices of food and praise as reinforcers, he listened and kept a really positive attitude the whole time.
I raise my hand to my dogs, and they don't have behavioral issues whatsoever. one of them is 10 years old, deaf, and is obedient to the point of knowing what i expect without having to tell it. I never beat my dogs, but when i caught one of them chewing on the furniture, I made sure to hit it in the side. If I caught it started jumping up against the door because it wanted to come in, same response. However, I've never hit my dog for urinating or defecating in the house. I've always viewed that as a mistake on my part for not letting the dog out.
I raise my hand to my dogs, and they don't have behavioral issues whatsoever. one of them is 10 years old, deaf, and is obedient to the point of knowing what i expect without having to tell it. I never beat my dogs, but when i caught one of them chewing on the furniture, I made sure to hit it in the side. If I caught it started jumping up against the door because it wanted to come in, same response. However, I've never hit my dog for urinating or defecating in the house. I've always viewed that as a mistake on my part for not letting the dog out.
My dad use to beat my dogs when I was little it was horrible they were filled with such fear. They are pets they rely on us to feed, walk and especially love them if you get a dog that needs lots of discipline you should take it to obedient school if you say you can't afford it then you should of never of got the dog in the first place. Finally my dog (Red) a beautiful Irish Setter had enough of my dads beatings and cornerd him and scratched his face bad . After that Red went to a new home and got the love he deserve.Unfortunately I had to stay with the mean bastard. I feel people that beat animals are angry and mean people and just maybe were beat themselves... Seek help if you beat your animals it's not normal.
first off, beating your dog is never okay because eventually the dog will think you and him are on equals and its okay to fight you. second off hit, spank, slap works. pain retains, simple logic. on the same token so do reward based systems. The best is a combination of the two. see alpha dogs can not speak, they can bark, they can intimidate, but most importantly they can make other dogs feel pain. your dog nips someone; hit, spank, slap only till the dog submits. Me, i hit spank slap and then grab the dog by the neck with both hands, not choking the dog and not hurting him, and hold him down till he submits, saying no. by him feeling the pain he gets that what he did is bad, by me holding him down till he submits he understands i am in charge and that i call the shots, and lastly i re-affirm with a vocal command that the word no is only used when he is displaying behavior i do not agree with. on the same token, i constantly pet and praise my dog whenever he is behaving. treats on occasion when he does what i tell him too, and mostly i pet and hug him when he listens. treats are a rarity unless i am training him to do something new, vocal and physical praise are his main form of reward. i display to him that even around other dogs, i am the alpha and am the only one that retains the ability to inflict pain or discipline or even display dominance. now, my dog has been training for french ring sport for about a year now and is extremely well trained. no special techniques, nothing, its simple, reward for good behavior, punishment for bad, and lastly no punishment is inflicted if my dog is learning something new, only punishment for established behaviors that i expect him to perform on a daily basis. the fact of the matter is that its a constant balancing act. you must, no matter what the breed or size of dog, show your dominance. pain is the way to do it. as are rewards. its that simple, despite what we want to believe pain has a purpose, why else would we or any mammal be able to feel it if it didnt? My dog is also an American Pitbull Terrier. a seemingly vicious dog, and though i have no doubt that like every dog he has the ability to behave like an animal, pain has all but allowed him to act like an animal. to leave you all with a quote that sums up why pain is necessary for any type of learning
"Your pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses your understanding."-Khalil Gibran.
The truth is that while there may be other methods, I've seen "Beating their ass" work wonders. My dog is not nearly as well behaved as my buddy's dogs, and he smacks them when they do something wrong. They are obedient, affectionate, and not aggressive or fearful in the slightest. I'm not as heavy handed with my dog, and she listens, but not 100%. I think different dogs respond to different things. The truth is "hitting" may not seem nice and might give you an icky feeling inside, but I have seen it work.
U DO NOT SPANK chihuahuas. THEY R 2 SMALL IT IS WRONG AND MEAN U DO NOT SPRAY THEM EITHER STOP SPANKING THEM SMALL DOGS ANS SPRAYING THEM they r 2 small u r imature
i think that beating a dog is awful. Spanking is a different thing in my eyes. Its less painful then physically beating a dog. Its hard also to train chihuahuas. They dont like to listen very well. So spanking is what i do with mine. Or i use a water spray bottle to spray them on the nose if the have done something bad. I think that those two methods work the best for dogs. Try it out sometime.