Dollhouse is winning?! WHAT?! lmao. I love Dollhouse, no kidding, but I didn't know it was... This popular? I would have bet my life on 'Buffy' in the lead! I ended up voting for Serenity, though. An amazing movie, with all the right elements, IMO.
Angel is the best on paper, but throughout the entire series it was like they were trying to find the perfect balance of light and dark. And they sadly only found it in the latter half of the 5th season. I think of it as the flawed gem. similar to Dollhouse, great premise, but found its footing only after its cancellation.
I'd say buffy and Firefly are the best of whedonverse. I chose buffy because of how it affected my life. firefly didn't really run long enough to do that
DSR - 14 years ago
@Steev:
Your description of Joss' formula for "bland samey-ness" (Dear lord, if that isn't Buffyspeak, I don't know what is) really only applies to Buffy. Angel, Firefly, and Dr. Horrible all star males in the lead role. River is indeed a petite girl who excels at kicking ass, the Reavers don't really go under the "unknown evil" category. Spike seems to be the only character who could somewhat fit the "misunderstood brute" description (Jayne wasn't the deepest fella). Willow (and, if you stretch it a bit, Zoe) is the only main-character's-sister-figure in the Whedonverse, unless you count Dawn as a sister figure simply because she *is* Buffy's actual sister. I will give you the geeky guy trope, though, but that's a beloved staple of his work. And if you're tired of learning about teamwork, you might want to avoid nearly all television, film, and literature.
One thing I do agree with you on, however, is Firefly's unfortunate lack of Asians in the main cast. It's easy to see what Joss was going for: he wanted to show a society in which even poor white people know Mandarin. Unfortunately, when you present a foreign language but not the native speakers, people really notice.
Hamsun - 14 years ago
I liked all of his work, but to me Angel was his best. Especially the last season. The finale was as sad an episode of TV as I've ever seen. Next to Lost, this is my favorite all-time series.
Oh no - 14 years ago
I would have voted Angel if I knew how low it was. I agonized over that and Buffy and went with B-town though they're almost equal. Dollhouse though? Reprazent
Steev McLaughlin - 14 years ago
I'm trying really hard not to be a 'troll' here, but how is it that Whedon's works get lauded as heavily as they do, when they are all essentially the same story over and over? He's more predictable than Tim Burton, and less original.
The petite girl with immeasurable ability is the only hope to keep an unknown evil from claiming innocent victims, but she can't do it alone. She needs a large support group, featuring the cute geeky guy, the misunderstood brute, and the precociously wise sister figure to defend, advise, and set up punchlines for her. In the end, it is only their teamwork and dedication to each other that will allow them to succeed.
I wish whoever had dumped him just before his junior prom would know that she was unleashing the greatest torrent of bland samey-ness into the world that any audience had ever seen.
I liked the first few episodes of Firefly, until I noticed that the Asian-culture-dominated future contained no actual Asians. Many of his stars would not have achieved their popularity without his shows as vehicles, and I suppose I have to thank him in that way for Alyson Hannigan's selection in How I Met Your Mother.
Thirty years from now, will Buffy reruns still be playing? I, for one, hope not.
Ian - 14 years ago
Nothing could ever top Sarah Michelle as the Buff-girl. So witty and hot- a real vampire-killer. Great character arcs, writing and acting. Firefly, Serenity, Nathan Fillion and the his crew were amazing too, but alas, we hardly knew ye.
Dr. Horrible benefited from Fillion and Neil Patrick Harris, but as a one-off enterprise, I can't put it in the same category.
Angel was almost Buffy, and Amy Acker is a fave of mine, but would have benefited from being a more compact series. Andy Hallet and his character Lorne ... Rest in Peace.
Gary Schaber - 14 years ago
Buffy is one of my all-time favorites,I think Twilight fans should check it out if they haven't already I love(d) both and think they're great but Buffy was a true original! Happy Birthday Joss!
max mann - 14 years ago
i have watched them all and love joss whedon's work to no end. if i could vote for all of them i would, but apparently you can only vote for one of them, so buffy is my pick and hopefully joss will come out with a new show that tv companies wont try to kill. thank you joss, and happy birthday.
Jenny - 14 years ago
It's Buffy all the way for me. No other series will ever top my Buffy!
ChrisV - 14 years ago
Maybe Angel would have gotten more votes based on seasons 1-4. Season 5 sucked so hard -- nearly everyone dies -- that I pretend that miserable last season never occurred. Of all the Whedon shows -- Buffy, Firefly, Dollhouse, Angel -- the only one I haven't picked up on DVD is Angel season 5.
KEH - 14 years ago
If you didn't vote for Serentiy you didn't see it. A masterful work that stood on its own. Which is why I would put it above his great collected works like Buffy. HE managed to communicate the Firefly feeling and verse in under 2 hours. And unlike other creators had the guts to allow characters to die in the cause of good.
AMM - 14 years ago
Whedon is a genius. I love every single one of these and own all but Dollhouse. Buffy is still my favorite though..for every character but Buffy :) "I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it."--Spike
Karen B - 14 years ago
This was a tough one for me. I loved Buffy, and was a big Angel fan. And I said "The hammer is my penis," for an atrociously long time. I never quite got into Dollhouse. But I gotta say, I just loved Firefly - even though I completely missed it on TV. Luckily, a friend bought the DVD set and lent it to me. LOVED IT! Instant Nathan Fillian fan. I loved the movie too - I agree with the other poster who noted that to separate Firefly and Serenity is a bit unfair - it splits the vote.
DR - 14 years ago
Dollhouse was actually my first Whedon experience. I was just lazily flipping through channels one Friday night, and stumbled upon a show I'd seen advertised (and had wanted to watch) but had completely forgotten about. It was the fourth episode, "Gray Hour," in which Echo is on an art-thieving mission. But, suddenly, she gets "wiped" through her phone (a remote wipe, as it will later be called), leaving her in an infantile state. It was that moment that I said "Wow. This show is good." I'm not sure why it made me feel that way, but it did. And thus began my slow transformation into a Wheodnite. I was online when I saw that the creator of Dollhouse had also created soemthing called Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. Watched it, loved it. Then I stumbled upon Serenity being aired on cable. Watched it, loved it. I then purchased the one and only season of Firefly on DVD. Watched it, loved it. And, finally, just a month ago, I received my massive "Chosen Collection" of Buffy in the mail. Watched it, loved it. I have yet to watch Angel (I've got my DVR set to record the series form the first episode, which airs on TNT at 5 and 6 in the morning), but have no doubt that when I watch it, I'll love it. In the meanwhile, I will vote proudly for Dollhouse for introducing me to the Whedonverse.
Melissa - 14 years ago
My husband and I watched Buffy for the first time last year, and we just finished watching Angel all the way through. We are now rewatching Firefly. Angel, while a solid series, is just not as good as Buffy and Firefly. It just lacked something that Buffy and Firefly had -- some kind of chemistry or zing. I still can't quite put my finger on it. And as much as I adored Buffy I have to cast my vote for Firefly. Somehow, Joss and his gang of genius entertainment creators just nailed it on Firefly from the very beginning. It never stumbled. It didn't require time for each episode to get steadily better; they were fantastic from the beginning; the actors had amazing chemistry immediately. It just did absolutely everything right from the get-go -- except for landing at the right network.
Lisalett - 14 years ago
Love all the series!! Started with Buffy, then Angel, then Firefly!! Bought the Disk set of Firefly to catch the ones I missed and bought the DVD of Serenity!! Dollhouse?? not so much!! Caught Dr. Horrible after the fact and it was hilarious!! Looking forward to the Avengers!! Definitly put in Nathan Fillion, he has a hiatus coming from Castle at some point right???
Chris - 14 years ago
Don't understand the poor showing for ANGEL. No one can truly call themselves a Whedonite if they haven't seen this series.
CDevene - 14 years ago
C'mon ANGEL fans! Where are you? Big thanks to ANGEL, Whedon, and Boreanaz for turning me on to this genre (there's a pun in there somewhere), and I now have all the ANGEL dvd's. My daughter was very into Buffy, but I wouldn't deal with the teenage angst... again. Heard Firefly was very good, but was cancelled before I got there. Maybe SyFy or TNT will run it again...please.
Also looking forward to Avengers, but leave Fillion alone. He's fantastic as CASTLE!
scott - 14 years ago
never watched the complete Buffy or Angel just don't dig vampires that much. I did love Dollhouse Dr. Horrible and was at loss when Firefly was canceled. I do think splitting Serenity and Firefly is a little bit of an advantage for Buffy, same premise but split the vote. I think the poll may have been designed by a Buffy fan.
all in all a great career so far and looking forward to Avengers.
happy b-day joss put fillion in the avengers already.
Dollhouse is winning?! WHAT?! lmao. I love Dollhouse, no kidding, but I didn't know it was... This popular? I would have bet my life on 'Buffy' in the lead! I ended up voting for Serenity, though. An amazing movie, with all the right elements, IMO.
Angel is the best on paper, but throughout the entire series it was like they were trying to find the perfect balance of light and dark. And they sadly only found it in the latter half of the 5th season. I think of it as the flawed gem. similar to Dollhouse, great premise, but found its footing only after its cancellation.
I'd say buffy and Firefly are the best of whedonverse. I chose buffy because of how it affected my life. firefly didn't really run long enough to do that
@Steev:
Your description of Joss' formula for "bland samey-ness" (Dear lord, if that isn't Buffyspeak, I don't know what is) really only applies to Buffy. Angel, Firefly, and Dr. Horrible all star males in the lead role. River is indeed a petite girl who excels at kicking ass, the Reavers don't really go under the "unknown evil" category. Spike seems to be the only character who could somewhat fit the "misunderstood brute" description (Jayne wasn't the deepest fella). Willow (and, if you stretch it a bit, Zoe) is the only main-character's-sister-figure in the Whedonverse, unless you count Dawn as a sister figure simply because she *is* Buffy's actual sister. I will give you the geeky guy trope, though, but that's a beloved staple of his work. And if you're tired of learning about teamwork, you might want to avoid nearly all television, film, and literature.
One thing I do agree with you on, however, is Firefly's unfortunate lack of Asians in the main cast. It's easy to see what Joss was going for: he wanted to show a society in which even poor white people know Mandarin. Unfortunately, when you present a foreign language but not the native speakers, people really notice.
I liked all of his work, but to me Angel was his best. Especially the last season. The finale was as sad an episode of TV as I've ever seen. Next to Lost, this is my favorite all-time series.
I would have voted Angel if I knew how low it was. I agonized over that and Buffy and went with B-town though they're almost equal. Dollhouse though? Reprazent
I'm trying really hard not to be a 'troll' here, but how is it that Whedon's works get lauded as heavily as they do, when they are all essentially the same story over and over? He's more predictable than Tim Burton, and less original.
The petite girl with immeasurable ability is the only hope to keep an unknown evil from claiming innocent victims, but she can't do it alone. She needs a large support group, featuring the cute geeky guy, the misunderstood brute, and the precociously wise sister figure to defend, advise, and set up punchlines for her. In the end, it is only their teamwork and dedication to each other that will allow them to succeed.
I wish whoever had dumped him just before his junior prom would know that she was unleashing the greatest torrent of bland samey-ness into the world that any audience had ever seen.
I liked the first few episodes of Firefly, until I noticed that the Asian-culture-dominated future contained no actual Asians. Many of his stars would not have achieved their popularity without his shows as vehicles, and I suppose I have to thank him in that way for Alyson Hannigan's selection in How I Met Your Mother.
Thirty years from now, will Buffy reruns still be playing? I, for one, hope not.
Nothing could ever top Sarah Michelle as the Buff-girl. So witty and hot- a real vampire-killer. Great character arcs, writing and acting. Firefly, Serenity, Nathan Fillion and the his crew were amazing too, but alas, we hardly knew ye.
Dr. Horrible benefited from Fillion and Neil Patrick Harris, but as a one-off enterprise, I can't put it in the same category.
Angel was almost Buffy, and Amy Acker is a fave of mine, but would have benefited from being a more compact series. Andy Hallet and his character Lorne ... Rest in Peace.
Buffy is one of my all-time favorites,I think Twilight fans should check it out if they haven't already I love(d) both and think they're great but Buffy was a true original! Happy Birthday Joss!
i have watched them all and love joss whedon's work to no end. if i could vote for all of them i would, but apparently you can only vote for one of them, so buffy is my pick and hopefully joss will come out with a new show that tv companies wont try to kill. thank you joss, and happy birthday.
It's Buffy all the way for me. No other series will ever top my Buffy!
Maybe Angel would have gotten more votes based on seasons 1-4. Season 5 sucked so hard -- nearly everyone dies -- that I pretend that miserable last season never occurred. Of all the Whedon shows -- Buffy, Firefly, Dollhouse, Angel -- the only one I haven't picked up on DVD is Angel season 5.
If you didn't vote for Serentiy you didn't see it. A masterful work that stood on its own. Which is why I would put it above his great collected works like Buffy. HE managed to communicate the Firefly feeling and verse in under 2 hours. And unlike other creators had the guts to allow characters to die in the cause of good.
Whedon is a genius. I love every single one of these and own all but Dollhouse. Buffy is still my favorite though..for every character but Buffy :) "I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it."--Spike
This was a tough one for me. I loved Buffy, and was a big Angel fan. And I said "The hammer is my penis," for an atrociously long time. I never quite got into Dollhouse. But I gotta say, I just loved Firefly - even though I completely missed it on TV. Luckily, a friend bought the DVD set and lent it to me. LOVED IT! Instant Nathan Fillian fan. I loved the movie too - I agree with the other poster who noted that to separate Firefly and Serenity is a bit unfair - it splits the vote.
Dollhouse was actually my first Whedon experience. I was just lazily flipping through channels one Friday night, and stumbled upon a show I'd seen advertised (and had wanted to watch) but had completely forgotten about. It was the fourth episode, "Gray Hour," in which Echo is on an art-thieving mission. But, suddenly, she gets "wiped" through her phone (a remote wipe, as it will later be called), leaving her in an infantile state. It was that moment that I said "Wow. This show is good." I'm not sure why it made me feel that way, but it did. And thus began my slow transformation into a Wheodnite. I was online when I saw that the creator of Dollhouse had also created soemthing called Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. Watched it, loved it. Then I stumbled upon Serenity being aired on cable. Watched it, loved it. I then purchased the one and only season of Firefly on DVD. Watched it, loved it. And, finally, just a month ago, I received my massive "Chosen Collection" of Buffy in the mail. Watched it, loved it. I have yet to watch Angel (I've got my DVR set to record the series form the first episode, which airs on TNT at 5 and 6 in the morning), but have no doubt that when I watch it, I'll love it. In the meanwhile, I will vote proudly for Dollhouse for introducing me to the Whedonverse.
My husband and I watched Buffy for the first time last year, and we just finished watching Angel all the way through. We are now rewatching Firefly. Angel, while a solid series, is just not as good as Buffy and Firefly. It just lacked something that Buffy and Firefly had -- some kind of chemistry or zing. I still can't quite put my finger on it. And as much as I adored Buffy I have to cast my vote for Firefly. Somehow, Joss and his gang of genius entertainment creators just nailed it on Firefly from the very beginning. It never stumbled. It didn't require time for each episode to get steadily better; they were fantastic from the beginning; the actors had amazing chemistry immediately. It just did absolutely everything right from the get-go -- except for landing at the right network.
Love all the series!! Started with Buffy, then Angel, then Firefly!! Bought the Disk set of Firefly to catch the ones I missed and bought the DVD of Serenity!! Dollhouse?? not so much!! Caught Dr. Horrible after the fact and it was hilarious!! Looking forward to the Avengers!! Definitly put in Nathan Fillion, he has a hiatus coming from Castle at some point right???
Don't understand the poor showing for ANGEL. No one can truly call themselves a Whedonite if they haven't seen this series.
C'mon ANGEL fans! Where are you? Big thanks to ANGEL, Whedon, and Boreanaz for turning me on to this genre (there's a pun in there somewhere), and I now have all the ANGEL dvd's. My daughter was very into Buffy, but I wouldn't deal with the teenage angst... again. Heard Firefly was very good, but was cancelled before I got there. Maybe SyFy or TNT will run it again...please.
Also looking forward to Avengers, but leave Fillion alone. He's fantastic as CASTLE!
never watched the complete Buffy or Angel just don't dig vampires that much. I did love Dollhouse Dr. Horrible and was at loss when Firefly was canceled. I do think splitting Serenity and Firefly is a little bit of an advantage for Buffy, same premise but split the vote. I think the poll may have been designed by a Buffy fan.
all in all a great career so far and looking forward to Avengers.
happy b-day joss put fillion in the avengers already.