Why is it that on the past 10 cruises on Carnival that the nonsmoking bars have been empty? Except for embarkation day the atrium has been empty also. It used to be busy and full. Might as well do away with these areas and just build more cains. The party ha been at the smoking piano bar. i am going on the Spendor in Oct and not really looking forward to it because of the restreicted smoking areas.
mike mitchell - 14 years ago
we have cruised carnival 12 times so far. if you restrict your smoking policy anymore it may be our last. if you look at your smoking areas you'll see that they are always full while the non-smoking areas are mostly empty especially at the bars that are split between smoking and non-smoking. smokers spend more in the casino and at bars then non-smokers, if you want to make your quota on your alcohol sales cut out smoking and guaranteed you won't come close.
TM - 14 years ago
We have cruise with Carnival exclusively, 9 criuises in 4 years, and at this time have many more planned in our future. Our party ranged from 4 to 14 adult guests plus children at a time. If Carnival insists on further smoking restrictions we will be looking to other vacations options. It will also put an end to our singing the praises of what a affordable and enjoyable vacation a cruise can be.
The anti-smokers can be a very vocal group, but I find that they continue to cruise with a line that has a slightly more liberal smoking policy. They want less/no smoking in bars and casinos, yet they continue to patronize these areas. If their favorite slot machine is in the smoking area they don't hesitate sitting down in the smoking section. Smokers however will let their dollars do their talking. On our last 4 cruises I have made a point that I will not order a drink from a bar in a nonsmoking area. The smoking areas were so limited on our Splendor cruise I saved a boat load(pun intended) of money. And if Carnival were to ever ban smoking in the cabins or balconies I would cancel any/all bookings I have in place at said time, as would all my travel companions.
At this time Carnival seems to have a pretty fair balance of smoking/nonsmoking areas. I hope to continue a long term cruising relationship with Carnival due to this balance.
L. Vargo - 14 years ago
Should smoking be restricted to outside decks? Absolutely not! We came back to Carnival because we didn't like NCLs more restrictive smoking policy. We absolutely will not cruise RCCL because of their policy. Restrict us more and you lose us also. We enjoy cruising, but if you have no room for us then we all lose.
Rick - 14 years ago
I think the following should be considered: first, all outdoor smoking should be restricted to one side of the ship. It is very difficult and frustrating for a non-smoker in a balcony cabin to have to deal with cigarete and cigar smoke emanating from nearby balconies. Second: somehow expand the non-smoking area in the casino to include both some table games and some slots. The non-smoking area should be near the entrance(s) to the casino. In the case of the Miracle (a Spirit-class ship), the non-smoking area is off in a corner of the casino; you often have to walk through a bunch of smokers to get to the non-smoking area. You can't smoke there, but you are still exposed to it. Also, there is a concourse through the casino's smoking area that you cannot avoid without going to another deck...
Dan - 14 years ago
I think the current mix of smoking and non smking is good with exception to the casino. If areas of the ship are deemed smoking area then non smokers can avoid that area. Just as smokers will have to avoid the nonsmoking ares if they light up. There is no way to make everyone happy. I think it is in Carnivals best interest to try. As for protecting children I think most of the indoor smoking areas are bars and children should not be there to start with. In the outside areas one side is smoking one is non. So avoid the side you don't want to be on. JMO
Dan
Leigh - 14 years ago
If Carnival Cruise lines is going to advertise itself as a family cruise line, then protecting innocent children from second hand smoke should be a priority.
There is no way to stop smoke in the cabins from entering the hallways. Smoke also travels through the ventilation system from cabin to cabin. Both expose children to second hand smoke.
Any bar that allows children under the age of 18 should be nonsmoking. Pretending that some invisible wall is going to stop smoke from invading the Promenade from the Casino is ridiculous.
On the Carnival Fantasy, children must walk through a bar to get to Camp Carnival. They supposedly walk through the "nonsmoking side"? But we all know there is no such thing.
Children walking into karaoke on the Carnival Fantasy must walk through a smoking bar to do so.
This constant exposure is unacceptable.
If RCCL can get it right and survive, then so can Carnival.
Apparently, a child's health and welfare is more important to RCCL.
Why is it that on the past 10 cruises on Carnival that the nonsmoking bars have been empty? Except for embarkation day the atrium has been empty also. It used to be busy and full. Might as well do away with these areas and just build more cains. The party ha been at the smoking piano bar. i am going on the Spendor in Oct and not really looking forward to it because of the restreicted smoking areas.
we have cruised carnival 12 times so far. if you restrict your smoking policy anymore it may be our last. if you look at your smoking areas you'll see that they are always full while the non-smoking areas are mostly empty especially at the bars that are split between smoking and non-smoking. smokers spend more in the casino and at bars then non-smokers, if you want to make your quota on your alcohol sales cut out smoking and guaranteed you won't come close.
We have cruise with Carnival exclusively, 9 criuises in 4 years, and at this time have many more planned in our future. Our party ranged from 4 to 14 adult guests plus children at a time. If Carnival insists on further smoking restrictions we will be looking to other vacations options. It will also put an end to our singing the praises of what a affordable and enjoyable vacation a cruise can be.
The anti-smokers can be a very vocal group, but I find that they continue to cruise with a line that has a slightly more liberal smoking policy. They want less/no smoking in bars and casinos, yet they continue to patronize these areas. If their favorite slot machine is in the smoking area they don't hesitate sitting down in the smoking section. Smokers however will let their dollars do their talking. On our last 4 cruises I have made a point that I will not order a drink from a bar in a nonsmoking area. The smoking areas were so limited on our Splendor cruise I saved a boat load(pun intended) of money. And if Carnival were to ever ban smoking in the cabins or balconies I would cancel any/all bookings I have in place at said time, as would all my travel companions.
At this time Carnival seems to have a pretty fair balance of smoking/nonsmoking areas. I hope to continue a long term cruising relationship with Carnival due to this balance.
Should smoking be restricted to outside decks? Absolutely not! We came back to Carnival because we didn't like NCLs more restrictive smoking policy. We absolutely will not cruise RCCL because of their policy. Restrict us more and you lose us also. We enjoy cruising, but if you have no room for us then we all lose.
I think the following should be considered: first, all outdoor smoking should be restricted to one side of the ship. It is very difficult and frustrating for a non-smoker in a balcony cabin to have to deal with cigarete and cigar smoke emanating from nearby balconies. Second: somehow expand the non-smoking area in the casino to include both some table games and some slots. The non-smoking area should be near the entrance(s) to the casino. In the case of the Miracle (a Spirit-class ship), the non-smoking area is off in a corner of the casino; you often have to walk through a bunch of smokers to get to the non-smoking area. You can't smoke there, but you are still exposed to it. Also, there is a concourse through the casino's smoking area that you cannot avoid without going to another deck...
I think the current mix of smoking and non smking is good with exception to the casino. If areas of the ship are deemed smoking area then non smokers can avoid that area. Just as smokers will have to avoid the nonsmoking ares if they light up. There is no way to make everyone happy. I think it is in Carnivals best interest to try. As for protecting children I think most of the indoor smoking areas are bars and children should not be there to start with. In the outside areas one side is smoking one is non. So avoid the side you don't want to be on. JMO
Dan
If Carnival Cruise lines is going to advertise itself as a family cruise line, then protecting innocent children from second hand smoke should be a priority.
There is no way to stop smoke in the cabins from entering the hallways. Smoke also travels through the ventilation system from cabin to cabin. Both expose children to second hand smoke.
Any bar that allows children under the age of 18 should be nonsmoking. Pretending that some invisible wall is going to stop smoke from invading the Promenade from the Casino is ridiculous.
On the Carnival Fantasy, children must walk through a bar to get to Camp Carnival. They supposedly walk through the "nonsmoking side"? But we all know there is no such thing.
Children walking into karaoke on the Carnival Fantasy must walk through a smoking bar to do so.
This constant exposure is unacceptable.
If RCCL can get it right and survive, then so can Carnival.
Apparently, a child's health and welfare is more important to RCCL.