Have you heard of a library you have free computers and internet access!!!!!
NeutralNet - 13 years ago
@Flagwaver:
Q: ctrlfrk is stating a simple opinion based on his and many other views.
A: Yes, the opinion that people with opinions different from his are "morons". It is an opinion, and he has the right to have it, but it is as you said, very simple. So simple it doesn't really make much of a point politically other than "you would have to be stupid to disagree with me".
Q: What good would it do to a family to have broadband if they do not have a computer?
A: This is a very silly question. Of course it wouldn't do any good. This question obviously proves that you don't understand the issue being discussed here. The government isn't going to buy every citizen a computer. They are simply offering the OPTION of government provided broadband to those who want it. If you don't own a single computer right now, I doubt you are going to be knocking on the door of big government looking for a free one the moment you hear about free broadband.
Q: You state that plenty of countries in Europe are pushing to give their citizens the right to high speed internet. Yet, you are not looking at the fact that plenty of those same countries in Europe are under mountains of debt that are much higher than ours (percentage of GDP)...
A: Can you please cite your source that says that providing free broadband has a significant impact on government debt, or I am forced to see this as nothing more than a strawman argument.
Q: ...and that most of them are also on fire.
A: What? You've officially lost me now.
@PollWatch
If you take a look at the source numbers, you'll realize that the admins didn't delete the votes; They turned all the (fraudulent) "Yes" votes into "No" votes! I am sure that made things more honest!
Poll Watch - 13 years ago
Seems the Admins have filtered out all of the repeat IP votes and well look at that, now suddenly the poll reads truthfully - 2% for Yes and 97% for No....
Gee, its amazing when you view a poll with real and non-tampered results...
Sorry, but the Internet is no different then TV before it, and Radio before that, Newspapers before that, the Telegraph, Telephone and so forth...
Here - simple example --- perhaps almost every house will be wired for Internet, just like just about every house is wired for Electricity... but its NOT a civil right to have electricity, its a Utility, you PAY FOR IT if you want it.... same with the Internet, except one little thing -- the Internet is free at Public Libraries, so its already giving out to people freely, go to the public library.
Alvin - 13 years ago
You have the right to Pursue it, ie purchase it or move to a new location that has it. It's not a right. I agree with cntrlfrk, morons.
ben - 13 years ago
Internet service is just that . . . a service that you can purchase. You are not born with a right to internet. That is absurd.
Poll Watch - 13 years ago
This poll has been hijacked....
There is a thread on a hacker site specifically detailing a "Pollbot" exploit for this poll and this site, so this poll is worthless due to the fact that childish little babies are afraid of the truth and choose to skew and pervert the results so they can have their own imaginary win.
Flagwaver - 13 years ago
NeutralNet,
ctrlfrk is stating a simple opinion based on his and many other views. Allow me to pose a couple of questions to you.
What good would it do to a family to have broadband if they do not have a computer? What would it impact their communication if they are unable to access this "right" that the government wishes to give them? Would that not set up the next "right" for every person in America to purchase or be given a computer able to use their God-given free internet?
You state that plenty of countries in Europe are pushing to give their citizens the right to high speed internet. Yet, you are not looking at the fact that plenty of those same countries in Europe are under mountains of debt that are much higher than ours (percentage of GDP) and that most of them are also on fire.
B&B - 13 years ago
Actually, the poll has been hijacked.
Anyone can vote multiple times on this poll, so it's worthless
NeutralNet - 13 years ago
cntrlfrk, do you call everyone who has a opinion different from your own a moron? That's not very mature.
Why wouldn't it be a right to have access to the most important and complex form of long-distance communication we have developed so far.
Plenty of countries in Europe are pushing to make sure that every last one of its citizens have broadband.
Mostly, I would consider this poll to be weighted in the fact that it refers to internet access as a "civil right". It would be insane to compare the black rights movement with internet access for all, but I fear that is the connection many Blaze readers are making.
Really, what should be asked is this: Should the economic/socioeconomic statistics of a region (within the US) keep those residing in that region from being able to access broadband internet.
I think we are a long way from government-supplied free DSL. Corporations will fight that to the death anyway!
Have you heard of a library you have free computers and internet access!!!!!
@Flagwaver:
Q: ctrlfrk is stating a simple opinion based on his and many other views.
A: Yes, the opinion that people with opinions different from his are "morons". It is an opinion, and he has the right to have it, but it is as you said, very simple. So simple it doesn't really make much of a point politically other than "you would have to be stupid to disagree with me".
Q: What good would it do to a family to have broadband if they do not have a computer?
A: This is a very silly question. Of course it wouldn't do any good. This question obviously proves that you don't understand the issue being discussed here. The government isn't going to buy every citizen a computer. They are simply offering the OPTION of government provided broadband to those who want it. If you don't own a single computer right now, I doubt you are going to be knocking on the door of big government looking for a free one the moment you hear about free broadband.
Q: You state that plenty of countries in Europe are pushing to give their citizens the right to high speed internet. Yet, you are not looking at the fact that plenty of those same countries in Europe are under mountains of debt that are much higher than ours (percentage of GDP)...
A: Can you please cite your source that says that providing free broadband has a significant impact on government debt, or I am forced to see this as nothing more than a strawman argument.
Q: ...and that most of them are also on fire.
A: What? You've officially lost me now.
@PollWatch
If you take a look at the source numbers, you'll realize that the admins didn't delete the votes; They turned all the (fraudulent) "Yes" votes into "No" votes! I am sure that made things more honest!
Seems the Admins have filtered out all of the repeat IP votes and well look at that, now suddenly the poll reads truthfully - 2% for Yes and 97% for No....
Gee, its amazing when you view a poll with real and non-tampered results...
Sorry, but the Internet is no different then TV before it, and Radio before that, Newspapers before that, the Telegraph, Telephone and so forth...
Here - simple example --- perhaps almost every house will be wired for Internet, just like just about every house is wired for Electricity... but its NOT a civil right to have electricity, its a Utility, you PAY FOR IT if you want it.... same with the Internet, except one little thing -- the Internet is free at Public Libraries, so its already giving out to people freely, go to the public library.
You have the right to Pursue it, ie purchase it or move to a new location that has it. It's not a right. I agree with cntrlfrk, morons.
Internet service is just that . . . a service that you can purchase. You are not born with a right to internet. That is absurd.
This poll has been hijacked....
There is a thread on a hacker site specifically detailing a "Pollbot" exploit for this poll and this site, so this poll is worthless due to the fact that childish little babies are afraid of the truth and choose to skew and pervert the results so they can have their own imaginary win.
NeutralNet,
ctrlfrk is stating a simple opinion based on his and many other views. Allow me to pose a couple of questions to you.
What good would it do to a family to have broadband if they do not have a computer? What would it impact their communication if they are unable to access this "right" that the government wishes to give them? Would that not set up the next "right" for every person in America to purchase or be given a computer able to use their God-given free internet?
You state that plenty of countries in Europe are pushing to give their citizens the right to high speed internet. Yet, you are not looking at the fact that plenty of those same countries in Europe are under mountains of debt that are much higher than ours (percentage of GDP) and that most of them are also on fire.
Actually, the poll has been hijacked.
Anyone can vote multiple times on this poll, so it's worthless
cntrlfrk, do you call everyone who has a opinion different from your own a moron? That's not very mature.
Why wouldn't it be a right to have access to the most important and complex form of long-distance communication we have developed so far.
Plenty of countries in Europe are pushing to make sure that every last one of its citizens have broadband.
Mostly, I would consider this poll to be weighted in the fact that it refers to internet access as a "civil right". It would be insane to compare the black rights movement with internet access for all, but I fear that is the connection many Blaze readers are making.
Really, what should be asked is this: Should the economic/socioeconomic statistics of a region (within the US) keep those residing in that region from being able to access broadband internet.
I think we are a long way from government-supplied free DSL. Corporations will fight that to the death anyway!
Who are the morons that vote yes?