the point i would like to make is at what point does a comment to a white guy be racist??? for god sake they grown pro`s and if calling someone a name gets an 8 match ban football has taken another direction which there will be players getting important players banned from big teams on the say so of name calling.. totally pathetic and ive heard worse in the playground...
the Wyman - 12 years ago
The people saying racism is here to stay may have not read Nelson Mandela's "Long Walk To Freedom"- apartheid thought the same...
David G - 12 years ago
Suarez is a footballing talent with a history of unsportsmanlike behaviour. Suarez, with the help of Dalgish, can redeem himself by spending the duration of his ban coaching kids in Africa. Perhaps it would do both Suarez and Liverpool a world of good.
David - 12 years ago
Suarez is a footballing talent with a history of unsportsmanlike behaviour. Suarez, with the help of Dalgish, can redeem himself by spending the duration of his ban coaching kids in Africa. Perhaps it would do both Suarez and Liverpool a world of good.
David - 12 years ago
Oh, and whilst we're on the subject of Evra's choice of phrase, whilst widely reported as being particularly insulting, if you've read the report you'll see that the literal translation of the phrase used is far stronger than the 'meaning' in real life - yes it was an insult, designed to get Suarez's attention, but on Suarez's account, he didn't even hear it. Of course, if you haven't read the judgment and were relying on Twitter for your information, you might not have appreciated that.
David - 12 years ago
Has anybody on here actually read the judgment. It took me an hour and a half, but it's spot on. If you want to read the introduction and jump to the good bits, can I recommend paragraphs 261, 302 and 326? 261 is particularly damning, suggesting that Suarez only came up with his defence once it had been pointed out by the experts that it might be legitimate to use the phrase in certain circumstances. Moreover, Suarez claimed (or perhaps, more accurately, it was claimed on Suarez's behalf) that Comolli and Kuyt misheard him in two separate languages. Anyone who rubbishes Evra's evidence or reliability, should read the report before throwing stones.
aizo - 12 years ago
why not Evra? coz he started the fracas
WTF - 12 years ago
You lot harping on about "no evidence" are as bad as the talking heads and their "WMD's"
Stick to fachts:
1) SUAREZ HAS ADMITTED USING THE TERM "NEGRITO"
2) THATS A NO-NO IN BRITAIN, WHERE BRITISH LEGAL PRINCIPLES APPLY
3) CASE (F*&%ING) CLOSED
Ian - 12 years ago
suarez is innocent but Evra is trouble maker because he insult in Spanis so why not charge to him
XX - 12 years ago
WHY IS THIS EVEN A POLL QUESTION? RACISTS DO NOT HAVE A PLACE IN A SPORT WATCHED BY BILLIONS FROM ALL RACES. HE SHOULD BE BANNED FOR LIFE. AS FOR LIVERPOOL, THE BAN DOES NOT CHANGE THEIR FATE, THEY WILL FINISH AT BEST IN SIXTH PLACE WITH OR WITHOUT SUAREZ.
ronaldo - 12 years ago
im white and i think luis suarez should be banned for even more than 8 games its unacceptable calling another professional player such a racial word all the people who put no he dont deserve an 8 game back are stupid liverpool scruffs who thinks it alright to call people negrito when it isnt and are crying cause they wont have that diving racist donkey for 8 games KMT
Ibby - 12 years ago
I don't get the controversy surrounding this situation? Suarez has admitted he called Evra a "negrito". He deems it to be acceptable in his native country but he's playing in England where calling a black person "negrito" is totally unacceptable. The ban is totally fair and those who are saying that Evra can't be trusted have an irrelevant arguement because Suarez has admitted calling him "negrito" CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!
aly djiré - 12 years ago
To FA Farezeans: " He who trows the first stone..."
Well Well, racism is alive and well in the UK...I struggle to believe how 62 percent of people can say the ban is too long, what do you want 2 game ban?..This is why black people do not attend football matchs for fear of racism and no protection from it either, (and funny how most of the better players in the premier league are black). Also what made me laugh was Alan Hanson's comments on the BBC, I quote "I think it's better(racism), not only with the players but with the supporters. I think there's a lot of coloured players in all the teams, all the major teams, and there's a lot of coloured players ". And then you had a person Toby Young (from the daily telegraph) state "Alan Hansen has apologised case closed as far as im concererned", obviously another middle class person who has no contact with any black people on any level apart from serving him at the till in marks and spencer, and therefore has no ability to have any real emphathy with people of a different ethnicity (Try and walk in Patrice Evra's shoes my friend). Anyway the BBC had 3 white men Gary Lineker, Alan Hanson and Lee Dixon discussing whether racism is rife in english football, when they have no authority to comment as they would not know as they are WHITE PEOPLE, get it...
And as for Glen "i ain't black no more" Johnson, he should look at himself supporting a man who has admitted to regularly making referance to peoples color, but then again Mr Johnson was arrested for shop lifting and does have issues around mental health so maybe we should forgive him, for he knows not what he is saying.. (case of the money has gone to his head?). Anyway I'll conclude with this whole anti racism thing, it won't and can't work as england is institutionally racist (Scarman report 1981), therefore there will always be the booing of the black players, and the unwritten rule of only so many blacks in the national side will carry on, and it's totally understandable, we all know the real reason most blacks play for the national side and it is not the fact that they are patriotic but the fact that, thats where the money and fame lies...We need the three R's now and not reading, wRiting and aRithmatic but...Reintegration Reparations and Repatriation...Believe me it cannot change, because it suit those in power to keep it like that. Thanks
kvthegunner - 12 years ago
should keep his mouth shut then init!! Justice!!!
goodlife - 12 years ago
i bet all who is sayin he dont deserve 8 matches are all white,,u people r a buch of racist cunt ,blasck and proud ,black is the best colour u fuckin racist pricks ,he and john terry shoud get ban for entire season ,kmt
Hotshot Hinch - 12 years ago
Evra is a trouble maker. Has played the race card twice before and got nowhere. This time the FA with David Gill (Man U) as chairman have found in his favour despite no evidence. This decision has opened the floodgates for more claims like this. Will footballers ever grow up and play the game instead of trying to get oppo players in trouble.Evra, you're a disgrace.
Nursemorph - 12 years ago
Seriously, I can't believe some people are saying that he shouldn't have been found guilty based on it being one persons word against another! Are you serious? So, on that basis, if someone came up to me in the street and punched me in the face, then told the police he didn't do it, he couldn't possibly be found guilty because its his word against mine. What about in rape cases? One person's word against another and yet the offender can still be found guilty. To those people who have said one persons word against another means he can't be guilty: Are you really that deluded and naive? As for all those screaming in outrage, I note that a lot are Liverpool fans. Clearly losing your best player is making you completely ignore racist comments just so your team will get a few more points. And that is the saddest indictment of how pathetic society is nowadays: I feel ashamed to be part of society
YNWA FOREVER - 12 years ago
liverpool is a fantastic club which has suffered very bad things in the past. hillsborough for example. if you dont know look up the hillsborough disaster
yet now a little thing which has been accused not proven is damaging this club once again. the club believe luis, the fans believe luis, even the man united players have not heard the conversation that went on and manchester united are our arch rivals. i dont think there is enough proof for this accusation.why are the FA even believing one man's word. Patrice Evra has history.
i think the court needs to get over this matter.
LUIS SUAREZ IS NOT PROVEN GUILTY UNTIL PROOF IS GIVEN.
THEREFORE LUIS SUAREZ IS NOT GUILTY.
YNWA FOREVER.
COME ON YOU REDS
Ledley - 12 years ago
Racism is here to stay despite the people saying they will stamp it out. Its always been around and always will be. The majority needs to stand up to the majority ! People are only saying what they think and just because they may not "be allowed" to say things doesn't mean they don't think them. Grow up Evra you are pathetic ! I dont cry to people if I am called a bald headed little t*** ! People can call me that but not a black bald headed little t*** . Whether its a trait, colour or feature of a person others attack that particular thing. Get over it !
JJ Castro - 12 years ago
I hope that concrete evidence is shown, if not, the FA has walked into a very dangerous territory. There will be many more to come.
It just baffles me that Evra acknowledges that Suarez is not racist but he is offended by being called black. He looks black to me, no offense intended. Is he ashamed of being black?
andy - 12 years ago
what the f@@@ how can anyone be found guilty when a) its one mans word against another (no witnesses) b) the term negrito means my black friend FACT
c) evra has been proven to lie on occasions before!!
d) if i was called (being a white person) a white f@@@@r by a black player , i wonder if it would be investigated so deeply, i very much doubt it, and also, i dont call my white friends honkey, whitey or anything else but their names, but blacks use the n word on them selves many times, disgusting double standards
james grivosti - 12 years ago
I think he is a racist and should be punnished for his actions! I am a liverpool fan and feel the words he used are terrible, the ban he has been given is not good enough! he should have been banned for a lot longer! and as for the fine!! do not get me started! :-(
NDONGI JUDE - 12 years ago
if suarez is ban for 8 match then to me it seem the FA do not like the progress of my club liverpool
and Patrice Evra, you should be ashamed of yourself. How can you be offended by a word which you yourself use so lightly. what am i on about, well click the link below or copy and paste it into youtube to find the evidence.
and how can that happen when we are racist towards that cockney, that geordie, that scotsman, that welshman, that Irishman, that Manc, that Scouser and so on. That I'm afraid is a distance eternity away. It just won't happen, how could it as long as the people in charge of the world pretend they care about everybody yet it's the same people who decide that they are going to drop a bomb on a certain area of the world because they have an ulterior motive!! You see, when the rest of the world see what the British/English are like deep down, and I dont mean the average tom, dick and harry on the street, I mean the people above who make the decisions, they don't have any respect for it, like false clamp-down on racism. When the people making the decision on racism are racist themselves through global oppression of the masses, and as a result they get richer and the poor get poorer, you will never get rid of racism because people react to how they are treated. Respect somebody and you will get respect back. Act racist to somebody and they will give you the same back. Britain is far from coping well with recism. When you stop terrorising the rest of the world after false flag terror attacks you will have eliminated half the problem!!
Luis Suarez is iccocent and that is a fact. People keep saying that you dont have to be racist to make a racist comment. I guess if people used a language to disguise their comments, like how people in the western world or their leaders do when you wish to oppress a particular nation simply to feed your hunger of world domination. Look at the people around the world who are oppressed and they are all non-whites and you f***ing go on about being a non racist nation. I want to state the fact that if you are going to get rid of racism then you need to lead by example. When i say lead by example I mean the western countries like britain, america and europe. Racism isnt just a problem in sport, as soon as it happens in sport it's highlighted tenfold simply because it's in the eye of the media, and all the official bodies act like they are whiter than white. I say whiter than white and by just saying that it sounds racist because the word white is made to look clean yet the colour black is made to look dirty. Can you see what Im getting at here. You people in the media don't want to hear the truth and when you do you choose to listen with deaf ears rather than point out what needs to be highlighted. The media is simply the mouthpiece of the western corrupt leaders. You say one thing and you do something totally the opposite.
I am of Asian origin but was born and raised in west yorkshire. I am old enough and wise enough to racism and recognise it from a mile off. You talk of getting rid of racism, yet it exists here in the streets. The amount of times I've spoke to an English person who can't stomach the Irish, Welsh or Scottish and vice versa, and this is so prevalent i cant describe it yet everybody knows it's there. Some might say it's banter amongst the british but Suares could say the same and point to cultural differences.
If you want to get rid of racism (which you don't because that would be one less thing to make money on and used to look like you care about the issue), you would start with yourselves. The British and western politicians and the mouthpiece (the media) like to pretend that they cant stomach racism. The truth is you are so racist and most of you know it. The point i'm trying to make is the west has constantly interfered with the affairs of everybody in the world, they have oppressed people of all backgrounds except the white man. If there is something to be gained by way of precious metals, precious stones, land, oil etc, then Britian and America will be onto it like flies on faeces and they will be backed by the rest of europe with authority from the UN (which itself is set up by the west so it can give the go-ahead for the crimes against humanity).
Iraq has been turned upside down (what weapons of mass destruction), so has, Libya and Afghanistan. And before you start going on about terrorism and oppression and how it goes on in these countries , most people have woken up in the world and know that the war on terror is just a name given to a mission that the west have created simply to give the legs to the new world order. If the west cared about the people of Libya or anywhere else, they wouldn't wait around 40 years for those poor souls to be oppressed by a tyrant, they would seek justice with prompt action. But the real reason why the west are in Libya (which the media already knows) is because of the gold and oil that Libya has. The Dollar is about to collapse, the Eurozone is going under and the evil interest based paper currency is literally not worth the paper it's printed on, and Gold as we know has it's intrinsic value intact and is going up like there is no tomorrow. So ask yourselves again why topple Gaddafy now!! Simple - GOLD & OIL.
Wake up and smell the coffee, are you understanding what I'm trying to get at here. Racism will never be rid of until the whole world gets a face-lift, until The black person in Africa has the same meal as the white person in Europe,
Evans - 12 years ago
YES!!! SUAREZ deserves the ban because his habit is not nice in that he is making his fellow players to suffer psychologically and there by affecting their performance and remember that everyone should account for his deeds therefore he should not regret in fact he should be happy because he has reap what he sown
ronal - 12 years ago
suarez deserved it,and u all get that through your head
Kurrie - 12 years ago
@william duckworth - 46 minutes ago
As if Liverpool were a threat this year!!!!! And 'Sir Alex' & Manu have been quiet on the subject, knowing they cant say either way what happened on the pitch they have done the correct thing, and kept any opinions to themselves..... Shame Dalgish & Liverpool haven't done the same. Liverpools reaction to this smacks of desparation and they are risking everything on the word of a player...
FIFA ;- KICK RACISM OUT OF FOOTBALL....
FA:- GIVE RACISM AN 8 GAME BAN......
Suarez is the luckiest man alive in Football today ...... Terry must be bricking it!!!
Doug - 12 years ago
The fa has charged suarez on the basis of partice evras words. Although im not in favour of what suarez has said- there must have been very little or weak evidence in favour of Evra. The word "Negrito" Is a term more commonly used in Southen America, meaning "little black friend" Evra was adamant that suarez called him the n word at least 10 times. and as a fellow black person i was completley on evras side. However after in the coming weeks evra did change his story claiming he didnt know what suarez said, then saying he wasnt a rasict. Backtraking? or Truth? Tim Vickery for BBC Sport wrote a coloumn all about the word Negrito and other southern american or spanish slag which points out other incidents were players were called negrito and didnt take offence or press charges like evra did heres the link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16262537.stm.
Guilty or not guilty Its nice to see both clubs sticking by there man, but in this day and age cultural differences are very common and the fa needs to understand that.
KK - 12 years ago
He has got a very long teeth but no one uses it against him. Why will he use someone's colour to rudicle him?
william duckworth - 12 years ago
Well played sir Alex !! get all your "innocents" to complain to the F.A about so called racialist remarks, and the opposition will be denuded of its top players,giving you yet another "well earned" title. You and your team have no honour,you" win" by any means,but this has to be the lowest even Manure United has stooped.
joe - 12 years ago
FA are mancs, evras a proven liar. rooney volleys someone and gets a 3 game ban reduced to 2. joke ! boycott the currupt premier league till fergie dies
mc - 12 years ago
John Terry run to the hills.
By the way ifhe did make a racial comment then I think 8 match ban is about right.
The question is if the comment was made, not any cultural interpretation or the family background of the man who made the comment.
Andy Carol must be rubbing his hands.
Nursemorph - 12 years ago
Congratulations to the FA for taking a stand on this very serious issue. Clearly I have no idea what evidence was used to base the judgement on but, given that they found Suarez guilty, then they had to set a precedent as racism cannot ever be tolerated. As for comments above: No-one has branded Suarez a racist - simply that he used a racial comment (even Evra commented that he didn't think Suarez was a racist). It was said in the heat of battle, so to speak, where sometimes things get said that shouldn't be said. But it does not excuse racist comments and there certainly is no excuse such as "Well, its normal where he comes from", "it sounds worse than what it actually was" etc. As for Liverpool's statement, while I commend them for standing up for their player as club's should do, their statement makes it sound like they condone racist behaviour. It would not surprise me if they got hit with a fine for their comments. As for the actual punishment, a £40,000 fine is a joke...it needed to be much more substantial (it probably isn't even half a weeks wages for him) like £250,000 or £500,000. But then fines handed out by the FA (not to mention UEFA and FIFA) are always pathetically inadequate. And as for the ban, again it is woefully inadequate......given that the Kick It Out campaign is one of the FA's most important campaigns, I would have expected a guilty verdict to come with at least a 6-month ban, or even more. Finally, I have to say that I am not surprised he has been found guilty, not because of some "alleged" campaign by the FA or that they decided before the investigation had begun, but simply because his professional behaviour shows that he thinks he can do what he likes (previous offense of a ban for biting an opponent is a prime example). While I admire him for his wonderful skill as a footballer, I abhor him for his lack of professionalism. To think that he is a role model for young players? That honestly worries me a lot
Tomsk - 12 years ago
This entire farce has left me feeling sick. There was not a single shred of evidence to support Evra's (a proven liar) claims yet the Man Utd Football Association find Suarez guilty. This needs to be fought, whether through appeal or the courts. It's a disgraceful day for the FA and the multitude of clowns jumoing on the bandwagon. It's notable that senior ex pros such as Luther Blissett immediately see a chance to get some air time and throw their tuppence in, without any genuine insight into the facts of the case. One word against another? A massive and dangerous can of worms is now open and the FA will pay for it in the long run. Shame on the FA and shame on Evra and his new bout of lies.
mc - 12 years ago
Typical scouse response the guy makes a racial comment and the club jumps to his defence on the grounds that he has a black grandfather!
One does not exclude the other.
cam - 12 years ago
Suarez’s ‘mixed race family background’ was not taken into account.
Also add that Evra "admitted" insulting Suarez in spanish,to which Suarez said he didnt hear him say.
Why is Evra not getting charged with the same ban? Answer is...David Gill was head person on the committee that handled the Suarez case,now what is David Gill's daytime job...oh yeah he is chairman at Man Utd.
Waldo - 12 years ago
Typical blinkered red!
Suarez never 'denied it' he admitted to using the term negrito, which is wrong.
Get your facts right before spouting rubbish.
Freshie - 12 years ago
A forgone conclusion. Evra had no evidence to support his allegation. Suarez denied, it so the FA believe Evra and brand a man a racist. I hope Liverppol FC and it's suporters do everything to overturn this travesty of justice. The FA is an incompetent institution and needs drastic reform.
the point i would like to make is at what point does a comment to a white guy be racist??? for god sake they grown pro`s and if calling someone a name gets an 8 match ban football has taken another direction which there will be players getting important players banned from big teams on the say so of name calling.. totally pathetic and ive heard worse in the playground...
The people saying racism is here to stay may have not read Nelson Mandela's "Long Walk To Freedom"- apartheid thought the same...
Suarez is a footballing talent with a history of unsportsmanlike behaviour. Suarez, with the help of Dalgish, can redeem himself by spending the duration of his ban coaching kids in Africa. Perhaps it would do both Suarez and Liverpool a world of good.
Suarez is a footballing talent with a history of unsportsmanlike behaviour. Suarez, with the help of Dalgish, can redeem himself by spending the duration of his ban coaching kids in Africa. Perhaps it would do both Suarez and Liverpool a world of good.
Oh, and whilst we're on the subject of Evra's choice of phrase, whilst widely reported as being particularly insulting, if you've read the report you'll see that the literal translation of the phrase used is far stronger than the 'meaning' in real life - yes it was an insult, designed to get Suarez's attention, but on Suarez's account, he didn't even hear it. Of course, if you haven't read the judgment and were relying on Twitter for your information, you might not have appreciated that.
Has anybody on here actually read the judgment. It took me an hour and a half, but it's spot on. If you want to read the introduction and jump to the good bits, can I recommend paragraphs 261, 302 and 326? 261 is particularly damning, suggesting that Suarez only came up with his defence once it had been pointed out by the experts that it might be legitimate to use the phrase in certain circumstances. Moreover, Suarez claimed (or perhaps, more accurately, it was claimed on Suarez's behalf) that Comolli and Kuyt misheard him in two separate languages. Anyone who rubbishes Evra's evidence or reliability, should read the report before throwing stones.
why not Evra? coz he started the fracas
You lot harping on about "no evidence" are as bad as the talking heads and their "WMD's"
Stick to fachts:
1) SUAREZ HAS ADMITTED USING THE TERM "NEGRITO"
2) THATS A NO-NO IN BRITAIN, WHERE BRITISH LEGAL PRINCIPLES APPLY
3) CASE (F*&%ING) CLOSED
suarez is innocent but Evra is trouble maker because he insult in Spanis so why not charge to him
WHY IS THIS EVEN A POLL QUESTION? RACISTS DO NOT HAVE A PLACE IN A SPORT WATCHED BY BILLIONS FROM ALL RACES. HE SHOULD BE BANNED FOR LIFE. AS FOR LIVERPOOL, THE BAN DOES NOT CHANGE THEIR FATE, THEY WILL FINISH AT BEST IN SIXTH PLACE WITH OR WITHOUT SUAREZ.
im white and i think luis suarez should be banned for even more than 8 games its unacceptable calling another professional player such a racial word all the people who put no he dont deserve an 8 game back are stupid liverpool scruffs who thinks it alright to call people negrito when it isnt and are crying cause they wont have that diving racist donkey for 8 games KMT
I don't get the controversy surrounding this situation? Suarez has admitted he called Evra a "negrito". He deems it to be acceptable in his native country but he's playing in England where calling a black person "negrito" is totally unacceptable. The ban is totally fair and those who are saying that Evra can't be trusted have an irrelevant arguement because Suarez has admitted calling him "negrito" CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!
To FA Farezeans: " He who trows the first stone..."
Well Well, racism is alive and well in the UK...I struggle to believe how 62 percent of people can say the ban is too long, what do you want 2 game ban?..This is why black people do not attend football matchs for fear of racism and no protection from it either, (and funny how most of the better players in the premier league are black). Also what made me laugh was Alan Hanson's comments on the BBC, I quote "I think it's better(racism), not only with the players but with the supporters. I think there's a lot of coloured players in all the teams, all the major teams, and there's a lot of coloured players ". And then you had a person Toby Young (from the daily telegraph) state "Alan Hansen has apologised case closed as far as im concererned", obviously another middle class person who has no contact with any black people on any level apart from serving him at the till in marks and spencer, and therefore has no ability to have any real emphathy with people of a different ethnicity (Try and walk in Patrice Evra's shoes my friend). Anyway the BBC had 3 white men Gary Lineker, Alan Hanson and Lee Dixon discussing whether racism is rife in english football, when they have no authority to comment as they would not know as they are WHITE PEOPLE, get it...
And as for Glen "i ain't black no more" Johnson, he should look at himself supporting a man who has admitted to regularly making referance to peoples color, but then again Mr Johnson was arrested for shop lifting and does have issues around mental health so maybe we should forgive him, for he knows not what he is saying.. (case of the money has gone to his head?). Anyway I'll conclude with this whole anti racism thing, it won't and can't work as england is institutionally racist (Scarman report 1981), therefore there will always be the booing of the black players, and the unwritten rule of only so many blacks in the national side will carry on, and it's totally understandable, we all know the real reason most blacks play for the national side and it is not the fact that they are patriotic but the fact that, thats where the money and fame lies...We need the three R's now and not reading, wRiting and aRithmatic but...Reintegration Reparations and Repatriation...Believe me it cannot change, because it suit those in power to keep it like that. Thanks
should keep his mouth shut then init!! Justice!!!
i bet all who is sayin he dont deserve 8 matches are all white,,u people r a buch of racist cunt ,blasck and proud ,black is the best colour u fuckin racist pricks ,he and john terry shoud get ban for entire season ,kmt
Evra is a trouble maker. Has played the race card twice before and got nowhere. This time the FA with David Gill (Man U) as chairman have found in his favour despite no evidence. This decision has opened the floodgates for more claims like this. Will footballers ever grow up and play the game instead of trying to get oppo players in trouble.Evra, you're a disgrace.
Seriously, I can't believe some people are saying that he shouldn't have been found guilty based on it being one persons word against another! Are you serious? So, on that basis, if someone came up to me in the street and punched me in the face, then told the police he didn't do it, he couldn't possibly be found guilty because its his word against mine. What about in rape cases? One person's word against another and yet the offender can still be found guilty. To those people who have said one persons word against another means he can't be guilty: Are you really that deluded and naive? As for all those screaming in outrage, I note that a lot are Liverpool fans. Clearly losing your best player is making you completely ignore racist comments just so your team will get a few more points. And that is the saddest indictment of how pathetic society is nowadays: I feel ashamed to be part of society
liverpool is a fantastic club which has suffered very bad things in the past. hillsborough for example. if you dont know look up the hillsborough disaster
yet now a little thing which has been accused not proven is damaging this club once again. the club believe luis, the fans believe luis, even the man united players have not heard the conversation that went on and manchester united are our arch rivals. i dont think there is enough proof for this accusation.why are the FA even believing one man's word. Patrice Evra has history.
i think the court needs to get over this matter.
LUIS SUAREZ IS NOT PROVEN GUILTY UNTIL PROOF IS GIVEN.
THEREFORE LUIS SUAREZ IS NOT GUILTY.
YNWA FOREVER.
COME ON YOU REDS
Racism is here to stay despite the people saying they will stamp it out. Its always been around and always will be. The majority needs to stand up to the majority ! People are only saying what they think and just because they may not "be allowed" to say things doesn't mean they don't think them. Grow up Evra you are pathetic ! I dont cry to people if I am called a bald headed little t*** ! People can call me that but not a black bald headed little t*** . Whether its a trait, colour or feature of a person others attack that particular thing. Get over it !
I hope that concrete evidence is shown, if not, the FA has walked into a very dangerous territory. There will be many more to come.
It just baffles me that Evra acknowledges that Suarez is not racist but he is offended by being called black. He looks black to me, no offense intended. Is he ashamed of being black?
what the f@@@ how can anyone be found guilty when a) its one mans word against another (no witnesses) b) the term negrito means my black friend FACT
c) evra has been proven to lie on occasions before!!
d) if i was called (being a white person) a white f@@@@r by a black player , i wonder if it would be investigated so deeply, i very much doubt it, and also, i dont call my white friends honkey, whitey or anything else but their names, but blacks use the n word on them selves many times, disgusting double standards
I think he is a racist and should be punnished for his actions! I am a liverpool fan and feel the words he used are terrible, the ban he has been given is not good enough! he should have been banned for a lot longer! and as for the fine!! do not get me started! :-(
if suarez is ban for 8 match then to me it seem the FA do not like the progress of my club liverpool
and Patrice Evra, you should be ashamed of yourself. How can you be offended by a word which you yourself use so lightly. what am i on about, well click the link below or copy and paste it into youtube to find the evidence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2tv3wtNgm8
and how can that happen when we are racist towards that cockney, that geordie, that scotsman, that welshman, that Irishman, that Manc, that Scouser and so on. That I'm afraid is a distance eternity away. It just won't happen, how could it as long as the people in charge of the world pretend they care about everybody yet it's the same people who decide that they are going to drop a bomb on a certain area of the world because they have an ulterior motive!! You see, when the rest of the world see what the British/English are like deep down, and I dont mean the average tom, dick and harry on the street, I mean the people above who make the decisions, they don't have any respect for it, like false clamp-down on racism. When the people making the decision on racism are racist themselves through global oppression of the masses, and as a result they get richer and the poor get poorer, you will never get rid of racism because people react to how they are treated. Respect somebody and you will get respect back. Act racist to somebody and they will give you the same back. Britain is far from coping well with recism. When you stop terrorising the rest of the world after false flag terror attacks you will have eliminated half the problem!!
Luis Suarez is iccocent and that is a fact. People keep saying that you dont have to be racist to make a racist comment. I guess if people used a language to disguise their comments, like how people in the western world or their leaders do when you wish to oppress a particular nation simply to feed your hunger of world domination. Look at the people around the world who are oppressed and they are all non-whites and you f***ing go on about being a non racist nation. I want to state the fact that if you are going to get rid of racism then you need to lead by example. When i say lead by example I mean the western countries like britain, america and europe. Racism isnt just a problem in sport, as soon as it happens in sport it's highlighted tenfold simply because it's in the eye of the media, and all the official bodies act like they are whiter than white. I say whiter than white and by just saying that it sounds racist because the word white is made to look clean yet the colour black is made to look dirty. Can you see what Im getting at here. You people in the media don't want to hear the truth and when you do you choose to listen with deaf ears rather than point out what needs to be highlighted. The media is simply the mouthpiece of the western corrupt leaders. You say one thing and you do something totally the opposite.
I am of Asian origin but was born and raised in west yorkshire. I am old enough and wise enough to racism and recognise it from a mile off. You talk of getting rid of racism, yet it exists here in the streets. The amount of times I've spoke to an English person who can't stomach the Irish, Welsh or Scottish and vice versa, and this is so prevalent i cant describe it yet everybody knows it's there. Some might say it's banter amongst the british but Suares could say the same and point to cultural differences.
If you want to get rid of racism (which you don't because that would be one less thing to make money on and used to look like you care about the issue), you would start with yourselves. The British and western politicians and the mouthpiece (the media) like to pretend that they cant stomach racism. The truth is you are so racist and most of you know it. The point i'm trying to make is the west has constantly interfered with the affairs of everybody in the world, they have oppressed people of all backgrounds except the white man. If there is something to be gained by way of precious metals, precious stones, land, oil etc, then Britian and America will be onto it like flies on faeces and they will be backed by the rest of europe with authority from the UN (which itself is set up by the west so it can give the go-ahead for the crimes against humanity).
Iraq has been turned upside down (what weapons of mass destruction), so has, Libya and Afghanistan. And before you start going on about terrorism and oppression and how it goes on in these countries , most people have woken up in the world and know that the war on terror is just a name given to a mission that the west have created simply to give the legs to the new world order. If the west cared about the people of Libya or anywhere else, they wouldn't wait around 40 years for those poor souls to be oppressed by a tyrant, they would seek justice with prompt action. But the real reason why the west are in Libya (which the media already knows) is because of the gold and oil that Libya has. The Dollar is about to collapse, the Eurozone is going under and the evil interest based paper currency is literally not worth the paper it's printed on, and Gold as we know has it's intrinsic value intact and is going up like there is no tomorrow. So ask yourselves again why topple Gaddafy now!! Simple - GOLD & OIL.
Wake up and smell the coffee, are you understanding what I'm trying to get at here. Racism will never be rid of until the whole world gets a face-lift, until The black person in Africa has the same meal as the white person in Europe,
YES!!! SUAREZ deserves the ban because his habit is not nice in that he is making his fellow players to suffer psychologically and there by affecting their performance and remember that everyone should account for his deeds therefore he should not regret in fact he should be happy because he has reap what he sown
suarez deserved it,and u all get that through your head
@william duckworth - 46 minutes ago
As if Liverpool were a threat this year!!!!! And 'Sir Alex' & Manu have been quiet on the subject, knowing they cant say either way what happened on the pitch they have done the correct thing, and kept any opinions to themselves..... Shame Dalgish & Liverpool haven't done the same. Liverpools reaction to this smacks of desparation and they are risking everything on the word of a player...
FIFA ;- KICK RACISM OUT OF FOOTBALL....
FA:- GIVE RACISM AN 8 GAME BAN......
Suarez is the luckiest man alive in Football today ...... Terry must be bricking it!!!
The fa has charged suarez on the basis of partice evras words. Although im not in favour of what suarez has said- there must have been very little or weak evidence in favour of Evra. The word "Negrito" Is a term more commonly used in Southen America, meaning "little black friend" Evra was adamant that suarez called him the n word at least 10 times. and as a fellow black person i was completley on evras side. However after in the coming weeks evra did change his story claiming he didnt know what suarez said, then saying he wasnt a rasict. Backtraking? or Truth? Tim Vickery for BBC Sport wrote a coloumn all about the word Negrito and other southern american or spanish slag which points out other incidents were players were called negrito and didnt take offence or press charges like evra did heres the link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16262537.stm.
Guilty or not guilty Its nice to see both clubs sticking by there man, but in this day and age cultural differences are very common and the fa needs to understand that.
He has got a very long teeth but no one uses it against him. Why will he use someone's colour to rudicle him?
Well played sir Alex !! get all your "innocents" to complain to the F.A about so called racialist remarks, and the opposition will be denuded of its top players,giving you yet another "well earned" title. You and your team have no honour,you" win" by any means,but this has to be the lowest even Manure United has stooped.
FA are mancs, evras a proven liar. rooney volleys someone and gets a 3 game ban reduced to 2. joke ! boycott the currupt premier league till fergie dies
John Terry run to the hills.
By the way ifhe did make a racial comment then I think 8 match ban is about right.
The question is if the comment was made, not any cultural interpretation or the family background of the man who made the comment.
Andy Carol must be rubbing his hands.
Congratulations to the FA for taking a stand on this very serious issue. Clearly I have no idea what evidence was used to base the judgement on but, given that they found Suarez guilty, then they had to set a precedent as racism cannot ever be tolerated. As for comments above: No-one has branded Suarez a racist - simply that he used a racial comment (even Evra commented that he didn't think Suarez was a racist). It was said in the heat of battle, so to speak, where sometimes things get said that shouldn't be said. But it does not excuse racist comments and there certainly is no excuse such as "Well, its normal where he comes from", "it sounds worse than what it actually was" etc. As for Liverpool's statement, while I commend them for standing up for their player as club's should do, their statement makes it sound like they condone racist behaviour. It would not surprise me if they got hit with a fine for their comments. As for the actual punishment, a £40,000 fine is a joke...it needed to be much more substantial (it probably isn't even half a weeks wages for him) like £250,000 or £500,000. But then fines handed out by the FA (not to mention UEFA and FIFA) are always pathetically inadequate. And as for the ban, again it is woefully inadequate......given that the Kick It Out campaign is one of the FA's most important campaigns, I would have expected a guilty verdict to come with at least a 6-month ban, or even more. Finally, I have to say that I am not surprised he has been found guilty, not because of some "alleged" campaign by the FA or that they decided before the investigation had begun, but simply because his professional behaviour shows that he thinks he can do what he likes (previous offense of a ban for biting an opponent is a prime example). While I admire him for his wonderful skill as a footballer, I abhor him for his lack of professionalism. To think that he is a role model for young players? That honestly worries me a lot
This entire farce has left me feeling sick. There was not a single shred of evidence to support Evra's (a proven liar) claims yet the Man Utd Football Association find Suarez guilty. This needs to be fought, whether through appeal or the courts. It's a disgraceful day for the FA and the multitude of clowns jumoing on the bandwagon. It's notable that senior ex pros such as Luther Blissett immediately see a chance to get some air time and throw their tuppence in, without any genuine insight into the facts of the case. One word against another? A massive and dangerous can of worms is now open and the FA will pay for it in the long run. Shame on the FA and shame on Evra and his new bout of lies.
Typical scouse response the guy makes a racial comment and the club jumps to his defence on the grounds that he has a black grandfather!
One does not exclude the other.
Suarez’s ‘mixed race family background’ was not taken into account.
Also add that Evra "admitted" insulting Suarez in spanish,to which Suarez said he didnt hear him say.
Why is Evra not getting charged with the same ban? Answer is...David Gill was head person on the committee that handled the Suarez case,now what is David Gill's daytime job...oh yeah he is chairman at Man Utd.
Typical blinkered red!
Suarez never 'denied it' he admitted to using the term negrito, which is wrong.
Get your facts right before spouting rubbish.
A forgone conclusion. Evra had no evidence to support his allegation. Suarez denied, it so the FA believe Evra and brand a man a racist. I hope Liverppol FC and it's suporters do everything to overturn this travesty of justice. The FA is an incompetent institution and needs drastic reform.