Mark is right...they've known years in advance. They've had at least 2 years to prepare.
Mark - 11 years ago
Unbelievable! Too fat for the Jamboree? Knew years in advance! I don't think any scout over the bmi of 40 is losing out of exercising by not going to the Jamboree. They were unwilling to exercise prior to the Jamboree and for that reason are not allowed to go. Get Off Your Ass and Exercise!! Damn I'm tired of all the whiners!
MikeO'Connor - 11 years ago
The Summit is a high adventure camp. In order to meet the safety requirements you must be in shape! After the scout law says to be physically fit.
Now i am on staff and can testify boys are walking 10-15 miles a day carrying a 20 pound pack with their water food and other essentials. To get to the activity areas they will walk 90-120 minutes one way going up and down hills. Of not in shape you become a liability to yourself and to others.
We all knew about the requirements 4 years ago. I lost 150 pounds to meet the bmi requirements because i wanted to participate. The BMI requirements should not change for high adventure outings.
Amber Rex - 11 years ago
That's it. Take away their opportunity to get some exercise because they are too fat. That makes total sense. Only skinny children should be allowed to have fun. Way to build some self esteem Boy Scouts.
Jim Barlow - 11 years ago
I think it's bull.. I mean really. The things people come up with. Not allowing little kids to have the opportunity to be active! Again being pushed away! They should be ashamed of themselves what if it was your child? How would you feel!
Julie - 11 years ago
Ok..bmi over 40 people. This is huge. If they can't zip line, white water raft, bike or join in...why do you want to go? To watch? These couple weeks will be highly active..possibly HOT. Don't tell me the amusement parks and horseback riding, etc. don't have to ban obese people at some point for the safety of someone or something. Come on
Dottie Ahmed - 11 years ago
Are these people crazy ???? That's discrimination !!! I cannot believe what the Scouts are coming up with these days !! Why in this world would they ban these kids, what else are they going to think of ??? I think the people in authority of the scouts are the people with the problem !!!!
Samantha S. - 11 years ago
That's total discrimination! Some people just can't help it! Totally wrong! What is this world coming too?
Sean - 11 years ago
If more boys would get outside and get active and not sit behind a tv or video games all day the bmi would not be that high to worry about. But banning these boys from doing these activities isn't rite either they should be doing these kind of activities
Tanya - 11 years ago
WTF...my autistic son is in the boy scouts and he is there because it is the one place he found where he really felt accepted. My son has a higher BMI but he puts his heart and soul into EVERYTHING that he does and he tries his very best. It sickens me to see more and more rejection being accepted by the Boy Scouts of America. This is NOT what the boy scouts are supposed to be about and this is not how they are taught to act. Boy Scouts are not taught to stereotype, criticize, judge or look down upon others.....yet the adults of Boy Scouts are doing just that. I'm really starting to wonder if I should reconsider my son's involvement with the Boy Scouts of America.
Stevie - 11 years ago
The Boy Scouts are not banning overweight kids from joining the organization. They are putting some safety measures into place for an event that is very strenous. My son attended his first summer camp as a Boy Scout this year and there were events he was not allowed to participate in because of his age. It was a safety measure and we did not go complaining to the media that he was too young to participate in these activites. We told him that in a couple of years, he will be old enough. Instead he had a great time doing activities that he was old enough to do.
There are so many ways for Boy Scouts to get involved and be active if they choose to be. The Jamboree is a set program that is not intended to provide nutritional counseling or special classes for overwieght kids. And what kid would want to go to a high adventure camp and have to go to such classes? Again, there are so many other events that they can participate in. And not all scout troops even go to the Jamboree. So please understand the facts before you tear apart an organization for adding safety measures for one particular event.
I think it's a great idea for the boys to prepare ahead of time for events, but not just overweight boys and not just this event. And it needs to start at home with the parents! You can't expect the Scoutmaster to spend every meeting discussing nutrition with your son or doing excercises or they would never get to cover the rest of the agenda. Good nutrition and physical activity needs to be YOUR responsibility as a parent to teach to your children. Be a good role model for them.
Josephine Brown - 11 years ago
I only an against because if a child has a heartache people would complain about that too. I have a grandson there now and I hope he knows his limits. Parents need to understand the responsibility for the outer adults there. How would you feel if a child you're responsible for dies.
Amy - 11 years ago
Boy Scouts work rigorously to prepare for this Jamboree. The courses they offer are challenging and boys who have prepared want to challenge themselves. By providing easier courses it takes away from the boys that have prepared for over a year to do this. There are many opportunities for all scouts to participate and if these boys have not prepared it is much better for them to be excluded from this one event then to be physically injured or worse. Why should the ones who prepared for this be expected to do something less just because some did not prepare. Also, You would be reporting how terrible scouting is if someone got inujured or died and did not set some kind of standard to protect them.
Scoutmaster Rick - 11 years ago
There is a big misunderstanding among most of the people commenting. Scouts do not exclude obese boys from participating in scouts. However, when they are attending a high adventure camp, they need to meet the basic health standards that are verified by their doctors and recorded on their annual B.S.A. health forms. It is not uncommon for adult leaders like us to have to diet far in advance of attending those same high adventure camps to also meet those standards. There is a chart on the med form and medical research has shown who is at high risk of stroke, heart attack, or other related serious risk. They can still attend other camps with restrictions to certain activities. When over 40,000 scouts are attending an event, or the scouts are in remote areas where they are literally 24 to 48 hours from medical care, for example, these health standards are vital to prevent risk of death.
Evella Gaston - 11 years ago
They Boy Scout Masters, knew ahead of time about the activities involved, they should have implemented a plan to prepare the children for the event.
The motto is "To be prepared"
Gena - 11 years ago
We ARE talking about a 40 bmi. Thats about 205 pounds on a 5 foot frame. I think it's very smart. This is a highly intensive. physical activity program. It becomes an issue of safety for the child that obese! Please remember if something would happen to a child that obese it would become a liability issue for the organization. This isn't saying they can't join scouting. It's simply a one time function.
Marge - 11 years ago
I don't think the Boy Scouts should be banned because of their weight. If they don't go they may only sit indoors. They should be able to go and do less intense drills and should be able to attend workshops on weight control,eating, and exercise. Teach them that's what the Boy Scouts is all about. Maybe even send information and recipes home with them.
Marge
Evella Gaston - 11 years ago
They Boy Scout Masters, knew ahead of time about the activities involved, they should have implemented a plan to prepare the children for the event.
The motto is "To be prepared"
ava - 11 years ago
I wounder why most kids are over weight ? Don't ban them just gives them an excuse to sit around .
Judi Cunningham - 11 years ago
The Boy Scouts of America was always on a pedestal, in my mind. My brother was an Eagle Scout. In the past year or two, they have certainly fallen off that pedestal!
Keith - 11 years ago
This sounds like Discrimination.
Renee - 11 years ago
Why would they ban those kids? I thought we were supposed to be encouraging kids to be more active & healthy...
James Cruz - 11 years ago
They are allowing gays but not fat kids now I think we should think about that isn't that being bias
Mark is right...they've known years in advance. They've had at least 2 years to prepare.
Unbelievable! Too fat for the Jamboree? Knew years in advance! I don't think any scout over the bmi of 40 is losing out of exercising by not going to the Jamboree. They were unwilling to exercise prior to the Jamboree and for that reason are not allowed to go. Get Off Your Ass and Exercise!! Damn I'm tired of all the whiners!
The Summit is a high adventure camp. In order to meet the safety requirements you must be in shape! After the scout law says to be physically fit.
Now i am on staff and can testify boys are walking 10-15 miles a day carrying a 20 pound pack with their water food and other essentials. To get to the activity areas they will walk 90-120 minutes one way going up and down hills. Of not in shape you become a liability to yourself and to others.
We all knew about the requirements 4 years ago. I lost 150 pounds to meet the bmi requirements because i wanted to participate. The BMI requirements should not change for high adventure outings.
That's it. Take away their opportunity to get some exercise because they are too fat. That makes total sense. Only skinny children should be allowed to have fun. Way to build some self esteem Boy Scouts.
I think it's bull.. I mean really. The things people come up with. Not allowing little kids to have the opportunity to be active! Again being pushed away! They should be ashamed of themselves what if it was your child? How would you feel!
Ok..bmi over 40 people. This is huge. If they can't zip line, white water raft, bike or join in...why do you want to go? To watch? These couple weeks will be highly active..possibly HOT. Don't tell me the amusement parks and horseback riding, etc. don't have to ban obese people at some point for the safety of someone or something. Come on
Are these people crazy ???? That's discrimination !!! I cannot believe what the Scouts are coming up with these days !! Why in this world would they ban these kids, what else are they going to think of ??? I think the people in authority of the scouts are the people with the problem !!!!
That's total discrimination! Some people just can't help it! Totally wrong! What is this world coming too?
If more boys would get outside and get active and not sit behind a tv or video games all day the bmi would not be that high to worry about. But banning these boys from doing these activities isn't rite either they should be doing these kind of activities
WTF...my autistic son is in the boy scouts and he is there because it is the one place he found where he really felt accepted. My son has a higher BMI but he puts his heart and soul into EVERYTHING that he does and he tries his very best. It sickens me to see more and more rejection being accepted by the Boy Scouts of America. This is NOT what the boy scouts are supposed to be about and this is not how they are taught to act. Boy Scouts are not taught to stereotype, criticize, judge or look down upon others.....yet the adults of Boy Scouts are doing just that. I'm really starting to wonder if I should reconsider my son's involvement with the Boy Scouts of America.
The Boy Scouts are not banning overweight kids from joining the organization. They are putting some safety measures into place for an event that is very strenous. My son attended his first summer camp as a Boy Scout this year and there were events he was not allowed to participate in because of his age. It was a safety measure and we did not go complaining to the media that he was too young to participate in these activites. We told him that in a couple of years, he will be old enough. Instead he had a great time doing activities that he was old enough to do.
There are so many ways for Boy Scouts to get involved and be active if they choose to be. The Jamboree is a set program that is not intended to provide nutritional counseling or special classes for overwieght kids. And what kid would want to go to a high adventure camp and have to go to such classes? Again, there are so many other events that they can participate in. And not all scout troops even go to the Jamboree. So please understand the facts before you tear apart an organization for adding safety measures for one particular event.
I think it's a great idea for the boys to prepare ahead of time for events, but not just overweight boys and not just this event. And it needs to start at home with the parents! You can't expect the Scoutmaster to spend every meeting discussing nutrition with your son or doing excercises or they would never get to cover the rest of the agenda. Good nutrition and physical activity needs to be YOUR responsibility as a parent to teach to your children. Be a good role model for them.
I only an against because if a child has a heartache people would complain about that too. I have a grandson there now and I hope he knows his limits. Parents need to understand the responsibility for the outer adults there. How would you feel if a child you're responsible for dies.
Boy Scouts work rigorously to prepare for this Jamboree. The courses they offer are challenging and boys who have prepared want to challenge themselves. By providing easier courses it takes away from the boys that have prepared for over a year to do this. There are many opportunities for all scouts to participate and if these boys have not prepared it is much better for them to be excluded from this one event then to be physically injured or worse. Why should the ones who prepared for this be expected to do something less just because some did not prepare. Also, You would be reporting how terrible scouting is if someone got inujured or died and did not set some kind of standard to protect them.
There is a big misunderstanding among most of the people commenting. Scouts do not exclude obese boys from participating in scouts. However, when they are attending a high adventure camp, they need to meet the basic health standards that are verified by their doctors and recorded on their annual B.S.A. health forms. It is not uncommon for adult leaders like us to have to diet far in advance of attending those same high adventure camps to also meet those standards. There is a chart on the med form and medical research has shown who is at high risk of stroke, heart attack, or other related serious risk. They can still attend other camps with restrictions to certain activities. When over 40,000 scouts are attending an event, or the scouts are in remote areas where they are literally 24 to 48 hours from medical care, for example, these health standards are vital to prevent risk of death.
They Boy Scout Masters, knew ahead of time about the activities involved, they should have implemented a plan to prepare the children for the event.
The motto is "To be prepared"
We ARE talking about a 40 bmi. Thats about 205 pounds on a 5 foot frame. I think it's very smart. This is a highly intensive. physical activity program. It becomes an issue of safety for the child that obese! Please remember if something would happen to a child that obese it would become a liability issue for the organization. This isn't saying they can't join scouting. It's simply a one time function.
I don't think the Boy Scouts should be banned because of their weight. If they don't go they may only sit indoors. They should be able to go and do less intense drills and should be able to attend workshops on weight control,eating, and exercise. Teach them that's what the Boy Scouts is all about. Maybe even send information and recipes home with them.
Marge
They Boy Scout Masters, knew ahead of time about the activities involved, they should have implemented a plan to prepare the children for the event.
The motto is "To be prepared"
I wounder why most kids are over weight ? Don't ban them just gives them an excuse to sit around .
The Boy Scouts of America was always on a pedestal, in my mind. My brother was an Eagle Scout. In the past year or two, they have certainly fallen off that pedestal!
This sounds like Discrimination.
Why would they ban those kids? I thought we were supposed to be encouraging kids to be more active & healthy...
They are allowing gays but not fat kids now I think we should think about that isn't that being bias