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What do you think of "stand your ground" laws that allow people to defend themselves with force if they feel threatened anywhere they have a legal right to be? (Poll Closed)

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  • osprey - 11 years ago

    Barnowl, SYG laws are (legal) weapon blind as well. The chief advantage is that they reduce the burden of proof required of the victim, that he made every attempt to retreat/evade the attacker before using deadly force which can make for a difficult defense.

  • BarnOwl - 11 years ago

    Osprey: Classy opening insult of another's opinion there. You say that that LNKA's comment was (I'll focus on the positive) "naive". Yet you do no acknowledge the racism that LNKA brings up. I argue that ignoring individuals internal thoughts and feelings in evaluating what is "safe" and their sense of security is, at least, equally naive. Colorado's "Make My Day" law is weapon blind. It has been applied to people using baseball bats and bottles to defend themselves. While this law largely applies in/around your own home, defending oneself is allowed and encouraged in our region, laws, and culture. STG laws seem to give preference to guns over other weapons. This being said, guns can be a very effective crime deterrent. Laws limiting ownership are just as offensive as laws giving special treatment to those that use them over other weapons to defend themselves.

  • Bill Moore - 11 years ago

    This question is emotionally tied to the gun debate, so, you're really just having an extended gun debate session here. Those for gun control are against this law, those for gun freedoms are for it.

    This horse left the barn. 300 million plus guns in private citizens hands in America.

    Here's my question to you folks: is Robert Heinlein's old adage "an armed society is a polite society"? True?

  • osprey - 11 years ago

    "LetsNotKillAnybody" wrote what has to rank high on the moronic naivety scale, second only to Colorado Senaturd Joe Salazar who evangelizes whistles, peeing your pants and projectile vomiting for women who FEEL they're getting raped. The "Stand Your Ground" laws are not a problem as evidenced by the number of incidents. Join the idiots condemning Zimmerman who was assaulted by Martin. Zimmerman exhibited poor judgement following Martin but that doesn't give Martin the right to assault Zimmerman. Another case in point is the motorcyclist in El Paso county who was the victim of an attempted armed robbery last Wednesday and successfully defended himself with his handgun. The mere presentation of that weapon sent his attackers scurrying away, all unharmed, no shots fired. I guess you won't hear that recounted on NPR.

  • Let's not kill anybody - 11 years ago

    "if you FEEL threatened" is a lot different then a clear and present danger. The sad reality is that even in this day, skin color makes people "FEEL" threatened as was the case in Florida.

    Does anyone remember why Juan Williams was fired from NPR? He said “When I get on a plane ... if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they’re identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried, I get nervous.” This is coming from and educated and well respected journalist.

    This law is inherently biased and racist. If a white boy was seen roaming in a black community and he ended up dead would the outcome be the same as a black kid roaming a white neighborhood? I don't believe so and thats why I disagree with the law.

  • Barnowl - 11 years ago

    I can't judge bias. No law encourages violence. This is another example of too much government. There are/were sufficient laws on the books to account for self defense. SYG laws create problems as they create a framework for misuse of the system. The advantage goes to those who can afford the most sophisticated legal defense.

  • Eleanor - 11 years ago

    SYG is more than just defending yourself. Of course everyone feels you should be able to defend yourself but not commit murder. The law's critics argue that SYG law makes it very difficult to prosecute cases against people who shoot others and then claim self-defense. The shooter can argue that he felt threatened, and in most cases, the only witness who could have argued otherwise is the deceased. In SYG you can even over compensate on force when meeting force and still be covered as long as you claim that you reasonable were in fear for your life or great bodily harm. It's a license to kill. Since Florida enacted SYG laws, self defense/SYG defenses have tripled.

    The author of this poll is definitely biased.

  • Eleanor - 11 years ago

    SYG is more than just defending yourself. Of course everyone feels you should be able to defend yourself but not commit murder. The law's critics argue that SYG law makes it very difficult to prosecute cases against people who shoot others and then claim self-defense. The shooter can argue that he felt threatened, and in most cases, the only witness who could have argued otherwise is the deceased. In SYG you can even over compensate on force when meeting force and still be covered as long as you claim that you reasonable were in fear for your life or great bodily harm. It's a license to kill. Since Florida enacted SYG laws, self defense/SYG defenses have tripled.

    The author of this poll is definitely biased.

  • Mikeypikey - 11 years ago

    How is it biased? Don't just drop a bomb and run.

  • mikewjarvis - 11 years ago

    the wording of the selections in this survey is biased.

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