I ACCIDENTALLY VOTED YES! Wish I could edit my vote.
James Tiberius Kirk - 11 years ago
Well, Obama has decided to take military action - so, Ed, are you now going to make a 180 degree turn and support Obama's decision? We're waiting for your mea culpa.
Ed I.S. A. Wanker - 11 years ago
Ed "lying shitbag" Schultz is completely indifferent to the gassing of women and children in Syria - he said so on his Friday show. If you don't believe me, re-play the broadcast. He asked"who cares?" if Syrian civilians were gassed by their own government. Well, turdbrain, civilized people care, you pathetic excuse for a human being !
BTW, "Eddie", being drinking lately??
Carlos Dangerfield - 11 years ago
IS ED "SHITBAG" SCULTZ A WIFE-BEATER?
Well, the divorce court's proceedings are sealed. But there are some clues:
MAUREEN K ZIMMERMAN VS. EDWARD A SCHULTZ
Case Type: Divorce Date Filed: 01/26/1999 Location: — Cass County Judicial Officer: Marquart, Steven L
11/02/1995 Converted Event Codes Doc ID# 72 (EXP01 ) EX PARTE TEMPORARY PROTECTION ORDER (CC TO CC SHER. & FGO. PD) 11/02/1995 Application Doc ID# 71 APPLICATION FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROTECTION ORDER
11/16/1995 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Backes, Norman J) UCIS Hrg Desc: PROTECTION ORDER Result: Hearing Ended
11/30/1995 Motion/Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Backes, Norman J) UCIS Hrg Desc: CONTINUED CONTEMPT HEARING 09/11/1995 Continued to 11/30/1995 - Continuance - Schultz, Edward A Result: Hearing Ended
02/18/2004 Motion Doc ID# 105 MOTION TO SEAL FILES AND RECORDS 02/18/2004 Affidavit Doc ID# 102 CONSENT AND ADMISSION FO SERVICE OF DEFENDANT TO SEAL FILES AND RECORDS AND WAIVER OF RIGHT TO FURTHER
Woody Woodpecker - 11 years ago
Ed Shultz is a liar, a blowhard, and a moron. So , all you Ed toadies - how does it feel having a bag of stale horse piss as your hero?
Clark Kent - 11 years ago
ED SCHULTZ = BLOWHARD, LIAR,COWARD
Hassan - 11 years ago
Dear :
After greeting
I beg you to read my message to the end...
i know that you may received some messages about Syrian situation before, yet i can assure you that this maybe different one from a Syrian cares about both benefits the Syrian's people and the American one.
Syria is a place where so many Religious and ethnic groups living side by side, i my self belong to one of them called "Drouze" we did not feel unsafe before, since more then two and half years we feel that we are a target for a huge part of the rebels belong to what you called Radical Islam (I have so many evidences i can sent to you if you are interesting) the US government has no clue what is going on in the ground, looking to the general view and mostly through the eyes of here allies in the region, well let me till you it's not quite true.
Syria has a lot of Christians, actually in Syria you can find the only place on earth who people speak Aramaic the mother tong of Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ. No one belong to these religious and ethnic groups supports the rebels, by the actions of US government Syria will be a place for one religion only (ٌٌٌRadical Muslim Suni) and no matter what your allies is tilling you regard's that believe me you don't want the to be fact, if it happens then really no American boots military or civilian will be on the ground in the whole Middle east.
We believe that you may own the Saudi government for example but you don't own the Saudi people, they are against you and after what happened in Egypt and Tunis no one can Ensures what may happen in other countries.
You are trying to change the situation in country her own people seeks peace and believed in peace negotiations before to reach a deal with Israel, and trying to replace them with a people believe even speaking to you is like speaking to the Devil himself, don't be Conned by the political opposition who appears on TV, they control nothing in the ground, no one knows them and know one listen to there orders.
We also believe that Russia, China, Iran made you a trap in Syria, not only them, i believe that Britten made you a trap in Syria by pushing you to do the dirty job while they are waiting Back row, they made the same in Iraq, if any Arabic saw any Britten in the middle east he will not ask him why your government invade Iraq, such a question will be certainly asked to any American even Terrorism in the Middle East. you as American took all the hates while your allies is taking benefits and this is your really national threat.
At the end and i'm so sorry if this message was too long, it's not a matter of chemical weapons used or not, it's not a time for convincing anyone anymore, who support Al Assad regime will keep doing the same, and who is fighting him will keep fights, but for sure no one will believe of any evidence after what happened with Mr. Collen Powell in 2003 at National Security Counsel.
Mr. force Dallas (U.S Minister of Foreign Affairs 1954) said once that Syria is the central of the world, no one should play with.
Damascus.....ٍSyria
Mark. Twain (American writer) said about it: She has looked upon the dry bones of a thousand Empires and will see the tombs of a thousand more before she dies….to Damascus, Years are only moment, she is a type of immortality.
We love American Culture and civilization, following your leads, inspire by your Movies, songs, lifestyle.
please consider this as a love and peace message.
Have a nice day
Hassan Kontar
BettyC - 11 years ago
I did not see Ed's show, but I decided to vote no when I found his poll on the net because initiating military action against a country for an alleged chemical weapons attack (the perpetrators and the number of casualties still not fully confirmed at least in the open media) is not a credible act for a US president.
President Obama and his administration's mouthpieces have yet to provide a coherently documented justification for bombing Syria. In part, this is the reason that so few abroad and at home are enthusiastic about this juvenile decision by President Obama (based on his personal red-line), and even he is trying to back-track by asking the Congress to debate and vote on it. The fact that President Obama finds himself in this embarrassing situation suggests he has a seriously inferior national security team, including those who suggested he offer red lines like the one for chemical weapons.
One can only hope that the Congress will vote against military action against Syria, and if President Obama still moves to bomb Syria, that President Obama be impeached. After all, President Obama and his predecessor Bush II have never been held accountable for the use of drones to assassinate alleged Middle Eastern terrorists without any form of due process. Those bombing with drones abroad are actually state-sponsored terrorist acts that have killed large numbers of innocents. In addition, the use of the US military in the Middle East for whatever grandiose justifications, including bringing democracy, has politically destabilized the countries and the region, by instigating sectarian civil wars, destroying infrastructure, and killing many thousands of innocents.
Since 9-11, the US Presidents have chosen to misuse the military abroad and increasingly turn the US into a police state, all in the name of counter-terrorism and/or spreading democracy. We have serious problems here in this country that need to be addressed. We do not need President Obama to engage in juvenile posturing over developments abroad. The UN should be dealing with issues such as the use of chemical weapons, not the US doing it as a lone ranger with such questionable supporters as Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia (the biggest number of terrorist in 9-11), and France (the former colonial power that the UN had to threaten after WW II because It did not want to leave).
GeorgePatton - 11 years ago
Ed Schultz = liar, hypocrite, and coward.
On Friday's show, Ed displayed his cowardice by basically saying "so what?" if women and children were gassed.
That is the response of a coward with no principles. Ed, you are full of shit. I hope MSNBC fires you soon.
Steve H. - 11 years ago
Ed; I do not believe we should go to war with Syria, but I do believe we need to bomb the Royal Palace and get his attention. Send a few crews missiles in his direction, destroy his holdings, make his life the same as the
people in his own country.
As for the two Idiots, Carlos D and Jack, what are you guys thinking. Ed is telling it like it is, not what Fox No News wants you to believe. The republicans won't come back to the Capital until after their vacations are over with on Sept 9th, this just goes to show you where they are at, NO AGREEMENT WITH THE PRESIDENT TO use force. Boehner has spoken! They have been talking WAR for weeks now, but the President is holding back. NO MORES WARS PER OBAMA.
On Friday's show, Ed, you showed your TRUE COLORS - seven shades of shit. You came right out and even asked "who cares" if Syrian women and children were gassed. Well, civilized people care , douchebag. You're nothing but a moral coward. Your ratings are sinking fast, so at least the world will be soon be spared of your stupid ignorant blathering once MSNBC fires you.
Jack - 11 years ago
I am slightly bemused by the mind-numbing inanity of verbal sewage that spews out everytime Ed Schultz opens his slimy mouth. Luckily though , this buffoon's ratings are sinking faster than the Titanic and will most likely be off the air by year's end. Perhaps he'll be replaced by someone who doesn't have a manure-filled cranium. However, given it's MSNBC, I'm not overly optimistic.
Joyce Skillman - 11 years ago
President is in between a rock and a hard place. If we launch missiles or whatever we are also killing innocent people. The missiles do not have specific names on them. I voted no but going to Congress to get their input but they are so wishy washy inpeding anything the President does or does not do so Congress is not an option either. U.N. may be an option. Prayers for the situations.
Andrew - 11 years ago
At least the President should go to Congress and raise a tax to pay for the war. What about the transaction tax Ed highlighted earlier this summer. Is 3 cents on the 100 dollars to raise hundreds of billions to pay for these pesky little wars too much to ask? Seems to be a too hard to do. At any rate, those people hate us and they don't give a care about our values, they just want their side to win and are pulling on our emotions to side with them. Our great ally Iraq supports Assad and our great ally Saudi Arabia supports Al Qaeda. Let's get to work here and take care of our own needs. The Arab states are rich. They have armies. Let them support their own.
Jack - 11 years ago
First, I don't care what Reagan did or didn't do . I don't care what George W. Bush did or didn't do.
I say this because I'm getting a little sick and tired of people who say this is just Iraq all other again or point out that Reagan did nothing when Hafez Al- Assad and Saddam Hussein were gassing their own people.
Hiding behind excuses is moral cowardice, plain and simple. Saying it's not our problem is moral cowardice, plain and simple. Claiming we don't really know who launched the gas attack is not only a lie ( we know who did it ) but moral cowardice, plain and simple.
Now, Ed Schultz , a blowhard who claims to give a rip about people, is a moral coward. This week I heard him hide behind Reagan ( so, Ed, is Reagan now your role model?) and Bush ( the non-existence of Iraqi WMDs has nothing to do with the Syrian conflict). Schultz is a hypocrite, a liar, and a coward. When given the chance to stand against a horrific act of evil perpetrated by a brutal dictator, he instead made excuses rather than demonstrating moral clarity. According to Dante, there is a special place in Hell reserved for you, Mr. Schultz.
You are no different from the Germans who claimed they didn't know the Holocaust was occuring .
Fortunately , this buffoon's ratings are sinking fast and he will most likely be off MSNBC by year's end.
Good riddance. I hope you're replaced by someone who knows right from wrong.
Ron Owings - 11 years ago
I think it is time for the USA to stay out of other countries business and let them take care of there own affairs. If this congress would take care of business on our own issues ( which they haven't done for 6 years) this country would be better off. We aren't even finished with the 2 wars the morons got us into to start with. It is time for America to stop playing big brother to the world and start taking care of our own.
I'm a Vet and I have to say it makes me sick the way these JERKS in the House are trying to screw this country up. I'm a senior citizen now and it is clear that they would like to see all the old people in this country die off because they don't think we are worth being around. This country is going down and they are making sure of it.
larrys - 11 years ago
At this time we Donot know Who has used these chemical weapons. I have read conflicting reports that the rebels admitted to being the ones who did it. Then other sources say it was the Syrian Government.
During the Iraq-Iran war we supplied Iraq with chemical weapons and did Nothing when they used them. Reagan turned a blind eye to all the death.
We need a lot more proof as to who used these weapons and then the President must have Congressional approval before he uses Military Force
Nanakulikane - 11 years ago
Letting Asad use chemical weapons is tantamount to saying that it was okay for the Nazi's to gas all those Jews & gypsies. Time is of the essence, so all those Republicans (including Boehner who wanted the President to go to war with Syria in the past, had better get on the Presidents side now, instead of playing politics with peoples lives.
Mike - 11 years ago
President Clinton was asked what regrets he had during his presidency? He has stated one of the things he regretted most was not acting sooner in Kosovo, he wished he had not listen to the pundits and did the "right" thing which he ended up doing, but hundreds died during that period of indecision and action with limited surgical strikes brought it to an end fairly quickly and without "boots on the ground". Now the due nothing congress wants in on this are they kidding? That's a joke. I am concerned that there is no real talk about caring at all about these people? Everyone sounds like they have all turned into isolationists? This needs to be done in minutes and hours not months and years. I'll take the chance of retaliation it wont' be any greater then it already is and could be less. These folks don't have any say in anything and have no one else to turn to. If we don't do something, I guarantee some less then desirable group will step in and turn them against as we have let them do in the past with inaction. I wish all these pundits and do nothing congress men/women could spend 48 hours in these poor people's shoes/ village I bet they would sing a different tune if it was their family in harms way. They'd have a plan within minutes if it was their skin in the village. Remember the French helped us in Revolution really angering England when we needed a big brother. Who else is going help them? It's a lop sided civil war yes but there is a time when we have to grow a set and do the right thing. Its NOT IRAQ and the Cheney lies. I trust this president (not the congress) and I don't think you or anyone else spouting off have all the facts (classified) to make the accusations you and the whining congressman/women of both parties have been spouting. Last I DON"T CARE WHAT THE BRITISH DO..... We can wear big boy/girl pants on our own we don't need British approval or follow their Parliament lead quit quoting them like they are all knowing just because they think like you. Time to get behind the president... and trust
Ruben - 11 years ago
1) The fact that we have a 10-year-old unjustified war in Iraq is not enough to turn a blind eye here.
2) US is not alone, at least France & Australia have expressed unequivocal disposition to act militarily.
3) How would you react if we were talking of 1000 jews having been killed via chemical weapons in Syria 10 days ago?
4) How is this different?
5) Pardon me for saying this, but I am (and always was) fervently opposed to entering Iraq. Having lived in a country where autocracy and propaganda reign I can say with confidence: YES. Yes Assad is capable of launching an attack even when the whole world is watching. YES progressives (and I am one) are capable of being too lenient with tyrants as long as the tyrant uses the right words and rhetoric. YES there is a good case for action.
No, we should not go without Congress' approval.
No, we should not go without a roadmap.
Susapple - 11 years ago
I have a REALLY bad feeling about this one. Iraq made me angry, but this is something else entirely. While I feel very bad for the people in Syria, this is NOT the avenue. We need the other countries with us. Good grief - if England says no WHAT ARE WE THINKING! And WHERE are the surrounding nations on this? I can't see any way this ends well. When you are hitting your head against the wall, the rational step is to stop. We all know that the (red) line in the sand is a sinkhole.
DScully - 11 years ago
This is a very hard decision, which could turn into an even messier situation. I don't envy President Obama having to make it. But I know that he is a good and moral man, as well as having the best interests of the country at heart. He's not just interested in feeding the military industrial complex, and will have to have better reasons for going through with a strike. I know that he doesn't want to get the country into another war, just as much as we the public don't.
Thank goodness he has the patience to wait, gather all of the facts, listen to all opinions of his advisers.... and thank God he has a good, decent man for a VP.... instead of a VP like Cheney making up lies to sell the public to justify an attack. I believe that whatever is done, President Obama will be straight with us and tell us the truth and the reasons for either striking Syria or not. I also know that he is thinking down the line and considering what consequences might result in the future... something that was never considered by the previous administration when it came to taking military actions which resulted in decade long wars.
Cindy Harrell - 11 years ago
NO WAR....this war would only benefit the military- industrial complex,they need to make some more money and they don't care who they hurt. Enough with the wars and more with taking care of this country
Eliot Chandler - 11 years ago
Thanks, Ed, for questioning the MSM's description of the Syrian crisis!
I have contrary evidence that is being ignored by our administration....
US-Israeli false flag gas attack unravels
Commit a war crime to cover up a war crime?
By William Bowles
August 29, 2013 "Information Clearing House - "williambowles" - This is where it all started: The Israeli intelligence front the Debkafile, which is the source of the story that implicated the Assad government and/or its military in the gas attack on East Ghouta and now forms the basis for the war on Syria.
DEBKAfile’s military sources affirm that, just as the Assad brothers orchestrated the chemical shell attack on Syrian civilians, so too did Hizballah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah set in motion the rocket attack on Israel. – ‘The sarin shells fired on Damascus – by Syrian 4th Division’s 155th Brigade – were followed by rockets on Israel and car bombings in Lebanon‘, Debkafile, 24 August 2013
Let’s try sum up what we do know:
On the 21 August from a suburb of Damascus, Douma (or Duma) then under ‘rebel’ control, two missiles were fired at another ‘rebel’ controlled suburb of Damascus called East Ghouta, killing an unknown number of people, including children. It is assumed now that some kind of nerve gas or at least poison gas was used. The New York Times have documented this here, although they’ve moved some of the locations on the map. In this regard how does the NYT reconcile their take on the source of the missiles with the Mossad version, which makes them artillery shells fired from the mountains in the South ( see the Mossad version below, such as it is). This is confirmed by Pepe Escobar’s report of Russian satellite evidence.
Within hours, or even minutes, videos of the alleged effects of the attack were circulating on the Web and without a pause for a breath (let alone any evidence), led by the UK and followed closely by France, they were blaming the Assad government for the attack and pressing for an immediate attack on Syria, with or without authorisation from the UN Security Council.
For more on this see this Wiki, where details on the launch of the two missiles can be found. It’s not exactly a coherent presentation as it’s an assemblage of links and descriptions, but it looks like the missiles were launched from a Syrian Special Forces base in Douma (or Duma) then occupied by the ‘rebels’.
The ‘Evidence’
For several days, in fact until today, 28 August, there was no evidence offered in the mainstream media that confirmed the allegations made by the US, the UK and France. Then a story released by the Israeli Mossad intelligence service to the German magazine Focus on the 24 August got picked up by the MSM. Today the 28th a report in the London Guardian newspaper tells us that the ‘evidence’ was from an Israeli source, specifically the 8200 intelligence unit of the Israeli Defence Forces,
“which specialises in electronic surveillance, intercepted a conversation between Syrian officials regarding the use of chemical weapons, an unnamed former Mossad official told Focus. The content of the conversation was relayed to the US, the ex-official said.” – The Guardian, 28 August 2013
A more complete article on the Israeli connection can be found in a Times of Israel article dated 27 August:
It was Brun, the IDF’s top intelligence analyst, who in April shocked the international community by declaring that the army was quite certain that Assad had used chemical weapons against rebel forces in Syria in March.
This time, too, Israeli military intelligence has reportedly played a key role in providing evidence of Assad’s chemical weapons use. On Friday, Israel’s Channel 2 reported that the weapons were fired by the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division of the Syrian Army, a division under the command of the Syrian president’s brother, Maher Assad. The nerve gas shells were fired from a military base in a mountain range to the west of Damascus, the TV report said.
Bigwheel - 11 years ago
I voted no, but would have voted Maybe had that been an option.
Why is there a need for congress to vote now!!!! They haven't voted on anything since President Obama was elected. The sequester has reduced America's ability . The republicans kicked every "red line". We don't need them now.!!
james brady - 11 years ago
Obama has changed his name to Bush. He must at a minimum ask for a congressional vote on this issue as required by the Constitution Obama' s decisions are political. His red line drawing was a horrific mistake. Now he wants to save his face by starting another war. God help us. He should be impeached for violating our Constitution.
Walter G. - 11 years ago
I agree with what others said I do agree with you most of the time, but I also agree with the saying that "to those who have been given much, MUCH is expected!!! As a Vietnam vet I hate war, but by the same token when others kill small children, and women we must evaluate our options and help those in need.
Not Again - 11 years ago
The road to Iran leads through Syria! Nuff said!
Greg Korzenowski - 11 years ago
Absolutely NO MORE WAR! This is a matter the U.N. should be handling.
Jerry McCloud - 11 years ago
this is a post i had posted all over facebook hope you take a look and read it.
Dear Mr. President,
why do you think we should step into another country`s civil war? when they are not allies of ours or even friendly to us, would you allow and welcome Syria to step in and throw bombs our way if we were in another civil war? then why are we stepping into there conflict? yes i understand there was a few chemical bombs dropped in their country, but they were not targeting Americans or any American allies. instead of wasting a billion dollars in dropping a few bombs. use that billion dollars and give it back to us Americans who are getting broker and broker everyday, because of useless and senseless war. but i guess that would take away from corporate greed, and the Oil industries raising there prices, cause of the oil over there, but we have plenty of our own oil we could be using instead of giving our money to that region. and also if/and when you do drop your bombs lets take a body count and see who really kills more innocent people,them with there chemical weapons or us bombing them for it.. and then we can see who the real bad guy is.. I am really ashamed that I voted for you Mr. President when you said change I thought it was going to be for the better.. if i would have known, there is no way I would have voted for you or talked people into voting for you. now that I look back maybe Mitt Romney would have been the better Choice..
Linda - 11 years ago
Congress must vote. This is the law unless there is a direct threat to us. To strike to save face backing up the "red line" is macho world policeman insanity. While as you say it looks great on paper, to uphold the moral right, the consequences will likely be negative world wide. We cannot do a limited strike without harming innocent people. In addition the USA sending a message is meaningless they do not care what we think and even though some allies have said they support us, it will in the end be the US that gets the blame for the results. Ready for WWIII anyone ? Seriously we cannot strike.
LaRue - 11 years ago
I agree with almost everything you say, Ed; BUT you are off base on this one - and probably most of our citizens are - remember the Holocaust - no one wanted to get involved in that one either and how many were murdered while we chewed our fingernails.
doug cool - 11 years ago
We have millions of American civilians, allies and military personnel within range of stockpiles of Chemical Weapons all over Europe and Asia. .....WE MUST ACT IN SOME MANNER...... We have no choice....
David - 11 years ago
If we do a military strike (missiles) we have declared war on Syria. There is no such thing as a limited strike. Was 9/11 a limited strike? We went to war over this limited strike.
Kutlass - 11 years ago
The other comment section is not work!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lawrence LeGrande - 11 years ago
We should have struck Syria by now.
What, if any thing, did we learn from chemical warfare during World War One? It seems like we're learning nothing all over again.
Here's what I suggest:
How about some napalm - the stuff dropped on school-children yesterday - on Syrian military positions. We are told that the rockets raining down the chemicals and napalm came from a military base in the mountains near Damascus. A good rain-of-napalm-fire onto this base, and into the caves would be appropriate.
And, with 15-minutes notice, a rain-of-napalm-fire upon the presidential palace of this criminal head-of-state.
There's nothing like getting a little of your own medicine injected to wake up a criminal.
mary - 11 years ago
We are not going to war with Syria, we are sending a message to them, and Iran and N. Korea that America will stand with the human race and not allow such horrible doings to go unpunished....
DIKRAN ABAJIAN - 11 years ago
IF CHINA OR RUSSIA HAD USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINS THEIR OWN PEOPLE, WILL THE USA GO TO WAR AGAINS THEM?
Mark - 11 years ago
I couldn't vote yes or no on this one. It's such a complex issue with no way of knowing the repercussions of taking action nor the repercussions of not taking action. What's scary is having to rely on Congress to make a decision on anything much less this.
Patricia McCann - 11 years ago
I see it the way you do Ed. It's not our war and we should have learned from the past and just stay the hell out of it. We have a massacres in our own country and we can't seem to stop that. What makes the President bombing Syria will stop the atrocities? War is horrible, not question about it, but we need to fix America first.
RT Smith - 11 years ago
Best argument against this was is Obama's speech, when he was state senator. The same problems persist with the exception of the stock market which resumed its prior levels, but that's scant consolation to the middle class.
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What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Roves to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone thru the worst month since the Great Depression.
That's what Im opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.
"
For the full speech see: http://www.danaroc.com/guests_barackobama_030209.html
Mary Reeves - 11 years ago
If we don't act then what does that say to the world? What happened during WWI was a disgrace and while history may not repeat itself, MAN DOES. I'm appalled at what Ed is saying right now. Unbelievable.
BonC - 11 years ago
There's never a convenient time for military action. We can't base this decision on our economy.
It has to be based on our morals and values
the message we send to the world must NOT be that we will do nothing about the use Chemical weapons.
to do nothing is to condone Chemical actions.
our backs are against the wall. Our values are being tested. We must act.
To not act will open worse problems for us in the middle east than if we do. not to mention we will let down our arab allies
camrae - 11 years ago
If we do not hit Syria that says we condone the use of chemical weapons and when someone attacks us or our allies with chemical weapons we need to keep our mouths shut. I can not believe what I just heard you say. 496 children. Wow Ed I had more respect for you than that.
doug cool - 11 years ago
I voted for this administration. And I must now, at this time, trust them to make the right decisions on behalf of this country. World affairs and concerns are much too complicated for me {a lay person} to have any concrete opinions.... As to how we respond???? .... I don't know!!!! .... I simply feel that the world community and THE US, as a world Leader Must respond..... If that means sticking a Drone up Assad's ASS...so be it !!!
doug cool - 11 years ago
We have already told the world verbally, many times over and over. Thus, I have no displeasure in clearly demonstrating to the world that WE {the US} will never tolerate the use of Chemical Weapons by any one or any nation.
I ACCIDENTALLY VOTED YES! Wish I could edit my vote.
Well, Obama has decided to take military action - so, Ed, are you now going to make a 180 degree turn and support Obama's decision? We're waiting for your mea culpa.
Ed "lying shitbag" Schultz is completely indifferent to the gassing of women and children in Syria - he said so on his Friday show. If you don't believe me, re-play the broadcast. He asked"who cares?" if Syrian civilians were gassed by their own government. Well, turdbrain, civilized people care, you pathetic excuse for a human being !
BTW, "Eddie", being drinking lately??
IS ED "SHITBAG" SCULTZ A WIFE-BEATER?
Well, the divorce court's proceedings are sealed. But there are some clues:
MAUREEN K ZIMMERMAN VS. EDWARD A SCHULTZ
Case Type: Divorce Date Filed: 01/26/1999 Location: — Cass County Judicial Officer: Marquart, Steven L
11/02/1995 Converted Event Codes Doc ID# 72 (EXP01 ) EX PARTE TEMPORARY PROTECTION ORDER (CC TO CC SHER. & FGO. PD) 11/02/1995 Application Doc ID# 71 APPLICATION FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROTECTION ORDER
11/16/1995 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Backes, Norman J) UCIS Hrg Desc: PROTECTION ORDER Result: Hearing Ended
11/30/1995 Motion/Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Backes, Norman J) UCIS Hrg Desc: CONTINUED CONTEMPT HEARING 09/11/1995 Continued to 11/30/1995 - Continuance - Schultz, Edward A Result: Hearing Ended
02/18/2004 Motion Doc ID# 105 MOTION TO SEAL FILES AND RECORDS 02/18/2004 Affidavit Doc ID# 102 CONSENT AND ADMISSION FO SERVICE OF DEFENDANT TO SEAL FILES AND RECORDS AND WAIVER OF RIGHT TO FURTHER
Ed Shultz is a liar, a blowhard, and a moron. So , all you Ed toadies - how does it feel having a bag of stale horse piss as your hero?
ED SCHULTZ = BLOWHARD, LIAR,COWARD
Dear :
After greeting
I beg you to read my message to the end...
i know that you may received some messages about Syrian situation before, yet i can assure you that this maybe different one from a Syrian cares about both benefits the Syrian's people and the American one.
Syria is a place where so many Religious and ethnic groups living side by side, i my self belong to one of them called "Drouze" we did not feel unsafe before, since more then two and half years we feel that we are a target for a huge part of the rebels belong to what you called Radical Islam (I have so many evidences i can sent to you if you are interesting) the US government has no clue what is going on in the ground, looking to the general view and mostly through the eyes of here allies in the region, well let me till you it's not quite true.
Syria has a lot of Christians, actually in Syria you can find the only place on earth who people speak Aramaic the mother tong of Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ. No one belong to these religious and ethnic groups supports the rebels, by the actions of US government Syria will be a place for one religion only (ٌٌٌRadical Muslim Suni) and no matter what your allies is tilling you regard's that believe me you don't want the to be fact, if it happens then really no American boots military or civilian will be on the ground in the whole Middle east.
We believe that you may own the Saudi government for example but you don't own the Saudi people, they are against you and after what happened in Egypt and Tunis no one can Ensures what may happen in other countries.
You are trying to change the situation in country her own people seeks peace and believed in peace negotiations before to reach a deal with Israel, and trying to replace them with a people believe even speaking to you is like speaking to the Devil himself, don't be Conned by the political opposition who appears on TV, they control nothing in the ground, no one knows them and know one listen to there orders.
We also believe that Russia, China, Iran made you a trap in Syria, not only them, i believe that Britten made you a trap in Syria by pushing you to do the dirty job while they are waiting Back row, they made the same in Iraq, if any Arabic saw any Britten in the middle east he will not ask him why your government invade Iraq, such a question will be certainly asked to any American even Terrorism in the Middle East. you as American took all the hates while your allies is taking benefits and this is your really national threat.
At the end and i'm so sorry if this message was too long, it's not a matter of chemical weapons used or not, it's not a time for convincing anyone anymore, who support Al Assad regime will keep doing the same, and who is fighting him will keep fights, but for sure no one will believe of any evidence after what happened with Mr. Collen Powell in 2003 at National Security Counsel.
Mr. force Dallas (U.S Minister of Foreign Affairs 1954) said once that Syria is the central of the world, no one should play with.
Damascus.....ٍSyria
Mark. Twain (American writer) said about it: She has looked upon the dry bones of a thousand Empires and will see the tombs of a thousand more before she dies….to Damascus, Years are only moment, she is a type of immortality.
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I did not see Ed's show, but I decided to vote no when I found his poll on the net because initiating military action against a country for an alleged chemical weapons attack (the perpetrators and the number of casualties still not fully confirmed at least in the open media) is not a credible act for a US president.
President Obama and his administration's mouthpieces have yet to provide a coherently documented justification for bombing Syria. In part, this is the reason that so few abroad and at home are enthusiastic about this juvenile decision by President Obama (based on his personal red-line), and even he is trying to back-track by asking the Congress to debate and vote on it. The fact that President Obama finds himself in this embarrassing situation suggests he has a seriously inferior national security team, including those who suggested he offer red lines like the one for chemical weapons.
One can only hope that the Congress will vote against military action against Syria, and if President Obama still moves to bomb Syria, that President Obama be impeached. After all, President Obama and his predecessor Bush II have never been held accountable for the use of drones to assassinate alleged Middle Eastern terrorists without any form of due process. Those bombing with drones abroad are actually state-sponsored terrorist acts that have killed large numbers of innocents. In addition, the use of the US military in the Middle East for whatever grandiose justifications, including bringing democracy, has politically destabilized the countries and the region, by instigating sectarian civil wars, destroying infrastructure, and killing many thousands of innocents.
Since 9-11, the US Presidents have chosen to misuse the military abroad and increasingly turn the US into a police state, all in the name of counter-terrorism and/or spreading democracy. We have serious problems here in this country that need to be addressed. We do not need President Obama to engage in juvenile posturing over developments abroad. The UN should be dealing with issues such as the use of chemical weapons, not the US doing it as a lone ranger with such questionable supporters as Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia (the biggest number of terrorist in 9-11), and France (the former colonial power that the UN had to threaten after WW II because It did not want to leave).
Ed Schultz = liar, hypocrite, and coward.
On Friday's show, Ed displayed his cowardice by basically saying "so what?" if women and children were gassed.
That is the response of a coward with no principles. Ed, you are full of shit. I hope MSNBC fires you soon.
Ed; I do not believe we should go to war with Syria, but I do believe we need to bomb the Royal Palace and get his attention. Send a few crews missiles in his direction, destroy his holdings, make his life the same as the
people in his own country.
As for the two Idiots, Carlos D and Jack, what are you guys thinking. Ed is telling it like it is, not what Fox No News wants you to believe. The republicans won't come back to the Capital until after their vacations are over with on Sept 9th, this just goes to show you where they are at, NO AGREEMENT WITH THE PRESIDENT TO use force. Boehner has spoken! They have been talking WAR for weeks now, but the President is holding back. NO MORES WARS PER OBAMA.
On Friday's show, Ed, you showed your TRUE COLORS - seven shades of shit. You came right out and even asked "who cares" if Syrian women and children were gassed. Well, civilized people care , douchebag. You're nothing but a moral coward. Your ratings are sinking fast, so at least the world will be soon be spared of your stupid ignorant blathering once MSNBC fires you.
I am slightly bemused by the mind-numbing inanity of verbal sewage that spews out everytime Ed Schultz opens his slimy mouth. Luckily though , this buffoon's ratings are sinking faster than the Titanic and will most likely be off the air by year's end. Perhaps he'll be replaced by someone who doesn't have a manure-filled cranium. However, given it's MSNBC, I'm not overly optimistic.
President is in between a rock and a hard place. If we launch missiles or whatever we are also killing innocent people. The missiles do not have specific names on them. I voted no but going to Congress to get their input but they are so wishy washy inpeding anything the President does or does not do so Congress is not an option either. U.N. may be an option. Prayers for the situations.
At least the President should go to Congress and raise a tax to pay for the war. What about the transaction tax Ed highlighted earlier this summer. Is 3 cents on the 100 dollars to raise hundreds of billions to pay for these pesky little wars too much to ask? Seems to be a too hard to do. At any rate, those people hate us and they don't give a care about our values, they just want their side to win and are pulling on our emotions to side with them. Our great ally Iraq supports Assad and our great ally Saudi Arabia supports Al Qaeda. Let's get to work here and take care of our own needs. The Arab states are rich. They have armies. Let them support their own.
First, I don't care what Reagan did or didn't do . I don't care what George W. Bush did or didn't do.
I say this because I'm getting a little sick and tired of people who say this is just Iraq all other again or point out that Reagan did nothing when Hafez Al- Assad and Saddam Hussein were gassing their own people.
Hiding behind excuses is moral cowardice, plain and simple. Saying it's not our problem is moral cowardice, plain and simple. Claiming we don't really know who launched the gas attack is not only a lie ( we know who did it ) but moral cowardice, plain and simple.
Now, Ed Schultz , a blowhard who claims to give a rip about people, is a moral coward. This week I heard him hide behind Reagan ( so, Ed, is Reagan now your role model?) and Bush ( the non-existence of Iraqi WMDs has nothing to do with the Syrian conflict). Schultz is a hypocrite, a liar, and a coward. When given the chance to stand against a horrific act of evil perpetrated by a brutal dictator, he instead made excuses rather than demonstrating moral clarity. According to Dante, there is a special place in Hell reserved for you, Mr. Schultz.
You are no different from the Germans who claimed they didn't know the Holocaust was occuring .
Fortunately , this buffoon's ratings are sinking fast and he will most likely be off MSNBC by year's end.
Good riddance. I hope you're replaced by someone who knows right from wrong.
I think it is time for the USA to stay out of other countries business and let them take care of there own affairs. If this congress would take care of business on our own issues ( which they haven't done for 6 years) this country would be better off. We aren't even finished with the 2 wars the morons got us into to start with. It is time for America to stop playing big brother to the world and start taking care of our own.
I'm a Vet and I have to say it makes me sick the way these JERKS in the House are trying to screw this country up. I'm a senior citizen now and it is clear that they would like to see all the old people in this country die off because they don't think we are worth being around. This country is going down and they are making sure of it.
At this time we Donot know Who has used these chemical weapons. I have read conflicting reports that the rebels admitted to being the ones who did it. Then other sources say it was the Syrian Government.
During the Iraq-Iran war we supplied Iraq with chemical weapons and did Nothing when they used them. Reagan turned a blind eye to all the death.
We need a lot more proof as to who used these weapons and then the President must have Congressional approval before he uses Military Force
Letting Asad use chemical weapons is tantamount to saying that it was okay for the Nazi's to gas all those Jews & gypsies. Time is of the essence, so all those Republicans (including Boehner who wanted the President to go to war with Syria in the past, had better get on the Presidents side now, instead of playing politics with peoples lives.
President Clinton was asked what regrets he had during his presidency? He has stated one of the things he regretted most was not acting sooner in Kosovo, he wished he had not listen to the pundits and did the "right" thing which he ended up doing, but hundreds died during that period of indecision and action with limited surgical strikes brought it to an end fairly quickly and without "boots on the ground". Now the due nothing congress wants in on this are they kidding? That's a joke. I am concerned that there is no real talk about caring at all about these people? Everyone sounds like they have all turned into isolationists? This needs to be done in minutes and hours not months and years. I'll take the chance of retaliation it wont' be any greater then it already is and could be less. These folks don't have any say in anything and have no one else to turn to. If we don't do something, I guarantee some less then desirable group will step in and turn them against as we have let them do in the past with inaction. I wish all these pundits and do nothing congress men/women could spend 48 hours in these poor people's shoes/ village I bet they would sing a different tune if it was their family in harms way. They'd have a plan within minutes if it was their skin in the village. Remember the French helped us in Revolution really angering England when we needed a big brother. Who else is going help them? It's a lop sided civil war yes but there is a time when we have to grow a set and do the right thing. Its NOT IRAQ and the Cheney lies. I trust this president (not the congress) and I don't think you or anyone else spouting off have all the facts (classified) to make the accusations you and the whining congressman/women of both parties have been spouting. Last I DON"T CARE WHAT THE BRITISH DO..... We can wear big boy/girl pants on our own we don't need British approval or follow their Parliament lead quit quoting them like they are all knowing just because they think like you. Time to get behind the president... and trust
1) The fact that we have a 10-year-old unjustified war in Iraq is not enough to turn a blind eye here.
2) US is not alone, at least France & Australia have expressed unequivocal disposition to act militarily.
3) How would you react if we were talking of 1000 jews having been killed via chemical weapons in Syria 10 days ago?
4) How is this different?
5) Pardon me for saying this, but I am (and always was) fervently opposed to entering Iraq. Having lived in a country where autocracy and propaganda reign I can say with confidence: YES. Yes Assad is capable of launching an attack even when the whole world is watching. YES progressives (and I am one) are capable of being too lenient with tyrants as long as the tyrant uses the right words and rhetoric. YES there is a good case for action.
No, we should not go without Congress' approval.
No, we should not go without a roadmap.
I have a REALLY bad feeling about this one. Iraq made me angry, but this is something else entirely. While I feel very bad for the people in Syria, this is NOT the avenue. We need the other countries with us. Good grief - if England says no WHAT ARE WE THINKING! And WHERE are the surrounding nations on this? I can't see any way this ends well. When you are hitting your head against the wall, the rational step is to stop. We all know that the (red) line in the sand is a sinkhole.
This is a very hard decision, which could turn into an even messier situation. I don't envy President Obama having to make it. But I know that he is a good and moral man, as well as having the best interests of the country at heart. He's not just interested in feeding the military industrial complex, and will have to have better reasons for going through with a strike. I know that he doesn't want to get the country into another war, just as much as we the public don't.
Thank goodness he has the patience to wait, gather all of the facts, listen to all opinions of his advisers.... and thank God he has a good, decent man for a VP.... instead of a VP like Cheney making up lies to sell the public to justify an attack. I believe that whatever is done, President Obama will be straight with us and tell us the truth and the reasons for either striking Syria or not. I also know that he is thinking down the line and considering what consequences might result in the future... something that was never considered by the previous administration when it came to taking military actions which resulted in decade long wars.
NO WAR....this war would only benefit the military- industrial complex,they need to make some more money and they don't care who they hurt. Enough with the wars and more with taking care of this country
Thanks, Ed, for questioning the MSM's description of the Syrian crisis!
I have contrary evidence that is being ignored by our administration....
US-Israeli false flag gas attack unravels
Commit a war crime to cover up a war crime?
By William Bowles
August 29, 2013 "Information Clearing House - "williambowles" - This is where it all started: The Israeli intelligence front the Debkafile, which is the source of the story that implicated the Assad government and/or its military in the gas attack on East Ghouta and now forms the basis for the war on Syria.
DEBKAfile’s military sources affirm that, just as the Assad brothers orchestrated the chemical shell attack on Syrian civilians, so too did Hizballah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah set in motion the rocket attack on Israel. – ‘The sarin shells fired on Damascus – by Syrian 4th Division’s 155th Brigade – were followed by rockets on Israel and car bombings in Lebanon‘, Debkafile, 24 August 2013
Let’s try sum up what we do know:
On the 21 August from a suburb of Damascus, Douma (or Duma) then under ‘rebel’ control, two missiles were fired at another ‘rebel’ controlled suburb of Damascus called East Ghouta, killing an unknown number of people, including children. It is assumed now that some kind of nerve gas or at least poison gas was used. The New York Times have documented this here, although they’ve moved some of the locations on the map. In this regard how does the NYT reconcile their take on the source of the missiles with the Mossad version, which makes them artillery shells fired from the mountains in the South ( see the Mossad version below, such as it is). This is confirmed by Pepe Escobar’s report of Russian satellite evidence.
Within hours, or even minutes, videos of the alleged effects of the attack were circulating on the Web and without a pause for a breath (let alone any evidence), led by the UK and followed closely by France, they were blaming the Assad government for the attack and pressing for an immediate attack on Syria, with or without authorisation from the UN Security Council.
For more on this see this Wiki, where details on the launch of the two missiles can be found. It’s not exactly a coherent presentation as it’s an assemblage of links and descriptions, but it looks like the missiles were launched from a Syrian Special Forces base in Douma (or Duma) then occupied by the ‘rebels’.
The ‘Evidence’
For several days, in fact until today, 28 August, there was no evidence offered in the mainstream media that confirmed the allegations made by the US, the UK and France. Then a story released by the Israeli Mossad intelligence service to the German magazine Focus on the 24 August got picked up by the MSM. Today the 28th a report in the London Guardian newspaper tells us that the ‘evidence’ was from an Israeli source, specifically the 8200 intelligence unit of the Israeli Defence Forces,
“which specialises in electronic surveillance, intercepted a conversation between Syrian officials regarding the use of chemical weapons, an unnamed former Mossad official told Focus. The content of the conversation was relayed to the US, the ex-official said.” – The Guardian, 28 August 2013
A more complete article on the Israeli connection can be found in a Times of Israel article dated 27 August:
It was Brun, the IDF’s top intelligence analyst, who in April shocked the international community by declaring that the army was quite certain that Assad had used chemical weapons against rebel forces in Syria in March.
This time, too, Israeli military intelligence has reportedly played a key role in providing evidence of Assad’s chemical weapons use. On Friday, Israel’s Channel 2 reported that the weapons were fired by the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division of the Syrian Army, a division under the command of the Syrian president’s brother, Maher Assad. The nerve gas shells were fired from a military base in a mountain range to the west of Damascus, the TV report said.
I voted no, but would have voted Maybe had that been an option.
Why is there a need for congress to vote now!!!! They haven't voted on anything since President Obama was elected. The sequester has reduced America's ability . The republicans kicked every "red line". We don't need them now.!!
Obama has changed his name to Bush. He must at a minimum ask for a congressional vote on this issue as required by the Constitution Obama' s decisions are political. His red line drawing was a horrific mistake. Now he wants to save his face by starting another war. God help us. He should be impeached for violating our Constitution.
I agree with what others said I do agree with you most of the time, but I also agree with the saying that "to those who have been given much, MUCH is expected!!! As a Vietnam vet I hate war, but by the same token when others kill small children, and women we must evaluate our options and help those in need.
The road to Iran leads through Syria! Nuff said!
Absolutely NO MORE WAR! This is a matter the U.N. should be handling.
this is a post i had posted all over facebook hope you take a look and read it.
Dear Mr. President,
why do you think we should step into another country`s civil war? when they are not allies of ours or even friendly to us, would you allow and welcome Syria to step in and throw bombs our way if we were in another civil war? then why are we stepping into there conflict? yes i understand there was a few chemical bombs dropped in their country, but they were not targeting Americans or any American allies. instead of wasting a billion dollars in dropping a few bombs. use that billion dollars and give it back to us Americans who are getting broker and broker everyday, because of useless and senseless war. but i guess that would take away from corporate greed, and the Oil industries raising there prices, cause of the oil over there, but we have plenty of our own oil we could be using instead of giving our money to that region. and also if/and when you do drop your bombs lets take a body count and see who really kills more innocent people,them with there chemical weapons or us bombing them for it.. and then we can see who the real bad guy is.. I am really ashamed that I voted for you Mr. President when you said change I thought it was going to be for the better.. if i would have known, there is no way I would have voted for you or talked people into voting for you. now that I look back maybe Mitt Romney would have been the better Choice..
Congress must vote. This is the law unless there is a direct threat to us. To strike to save face backing up the "red line" is macho world policeman insanity. While as you say it looks great on paper, to uphold the moral right, the consequences will likely be negative world wide. We cannot do a limited strike without harming innocent people. In addition the USA sending a message is meaningless they do not care what we think and even though some allies have said they support us, it will in the end be the US that gets the blame for the results. Ready for WWIII anyone ? Seriously we cannot strike.
I agree with almost everything you say, Ed; BUT you are off base on this one - and probably most of our citizens are - remember the Holocaust - no one wanted to get involved in that one either and how many were murdered while we chewed our fingernails.
We have millions of American civilians, allies and military personnel within range of stockpiles of Chemical Weapons all over Europe and Asia. .....WE MUST ACT IN SOME MANNER...... We have no choice....
If we do a military strike (missiles) we have declared war on Syria. There is no such thing as a limited strike. Was 9/11 a limited strike? We went to war over this limited strike.
The other comment section is not work!!!!!!!!!!!!
We should have struck Syria by now.
What, if any thing, did we learn from chemical warfare during World War One? It seems like we're learning nothing all over again.
Here's what I suggest:
How about some napalm - the stuff dropped on school-children yesterday - on Syrian military positions. We are told that the rockets raining down the chemicals and napalm came from a military base in the mountains near Damascus. A good rain-of-napalm-fire onto this base, and into the caves would be appropriate.
And, with 15-minutes notice, a rain-of-napalm-fire upon the presidential palace of this criminal head-of-state.
There's nothing like getting a little of your own medicine injected to wake up a criminal.
We are not going to war with Syria, we are sending a message to them, and Iran and N. Korea that America will stand with the human race and not allow such horrible doings to go unpunished....
IF CHINA OR RUSSIA HAD USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINS THEIR OWN PEOPLE, WILL THE USA GO TO WAR AGAINS THEM?
I couldn't vote yes or no on this one. It's such a complex issue with no way of knowing the repercussions of taking action nor the repercussions of not taking action. What's scary is having to rely on Congress to make a decision on anything much less this.
I see it the way you do Ed. It's not our war and we should have learned from the past and just stay the hell out of it. We have a massacres in our own country and we can't seem to stop that. What makes the President bombing Syria will stop the atrocities? War is horrible, not question about it, but we need to fix America first.
Best argument against this was is Obama's speech, when he was state senator. The same problems persist with the exception of the stock market which resumed its prior levels, but that's scant consolation to the middle class.
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What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Roves to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone thru the worst month since the Great Depression.
That's what Im opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.
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For the full speech see: http://www.danaroc.com/guests_barackobama_030209.html
If we don't act then what does that say to the world? What happened during WWI was a disgrace and while history may not repeat itself, MAN DOES. I'm appalled at what Ed is saying right now. Unbelievable.
There's never a convenient time for military action. We can't base this decision on our economy.
It has to be based on our morals and values
the message we send to the world must NOT be that we will do nothing about the use Chemical weapons.
to do nothing is to condone Chemical actions.
our backs are against the wall. Our values are being tested. We must act.
To not act will open worse problems for us in the middle east than if we do. not to mention we will let down our arab allies
If we do not hit Syria that says we condone the use of chemical weapons and when someone attacks us or our allies with chemical weapons we need to keep our mouths shut. I can not believe what I just heard you say. 496 children. Wow Ed I had more respect for you than that.
I voted for this administration. And I must now, at this time, trust them to make the right decisions on behalf of this country. World affairs and concerns are much too complicated for me {a lay person} to have any concrete opinions.... As to how we respond???? .... I don't know!!!! .... I simply feel that the world community and THE US, as a world Leader Must respond..... If that means sticking a Drone up Assad's ASS...so be it !!!
We have already told the world verbally, many times over and over. Thus, I have no displeasure in clearly demonstrating to the world that WE {the US} will never tolerate the use of Chemical Weapons by any one or any nation.