Kyle is correct. It doesn't mean their is no laws. Everyone (every sane adult) should know right from wrong, and should decide to do the right thing, obviously not everyone will do the right thing, so if they do something that doesn't directly effect someone. If you kill, then yeah you deserve what you get (prison time). But if you grow hemp and make your own shoes or hat, why should you pentalized. Small government is where it's at. Big government and big corporations are just bullies, they think we should fear them. I disagree! We shouldn't be that way, we should be able to have a pretty free life.
Jordan Bull - 10 years ago
I like how you're allowed to create paragraphs in the comment input format, and it removes them on posting to make organized opinions look like a rambling mess.
Jordan Bull - 10 years ago
Okay, what if we have a civil society with only privatized, smaller armies. What happens if Russia decides it wants our land? We would privatize a large standing army. Would the leaders of a large standing army act in the best interest of everyone paying them, or would they just cut you out of the "protection" or kill you if they want something you have. People in power act in self interest, therefore corporations act in self interest.
Is our government that privatized, tyrannical army? Well no, we all collectively own the army already and make it's decisions by appointing representatives to control it.
What is currency? A social contract that you voluntarily sign. Money is agreed to have value by society, but it's exact value is controlled by our representative government. Privatizing the control of currency would again lead to a monopoly just like the standing military, but without collective representation or protected individual rights. Eventually abuse.
Every non-regulated industry would become a monopoly. Look at what happens when regulations are lobbied and repealed. Enron purposefully witheld power from citizens in order to charge higher fees. It occurred because of the repeal of market regulation. The people's representative voice is the government, which then brakes up monopolies and imposes regulation. We wouldn't create a privatized regulatory group without preservation of individual rights. And that IS our government. An elected body of leaders deciding how to best preserve individual freedoms and protect society and our country.
It doesn't always act in your interest, because that isn't the point of a voluntary collective authority. It (however effectively) acts in the general aligned interests of the voters. Why would we throw that system away to recreate the exact same thing? If you don't like something about certain governmental processes, then try to convince enough people to change it. There is the problem that people with enough money craft these rules for themselves, but that's going to be greatly exaggerated if we don't have a representative regulatory body and judiciary system. The government.
Kyle K - 10 years ago
@ Jane Hoehne
Why would it have to be in a utopia?
Libertarianism doesn't say "You can do what you want."
It says "You can do what you want, as long as you don't cause harm to someone else."
I don't why people think that just means there is no more law and we just hope that everyone gets along.
Libertarianism is simple. Live and let live. Don't bother me, I won't bother you.
It's following the constitution. It worked for over 100 years and our country prospered. Now we as a nation are divided, fighting over things that shouldn't be anyone's business! We have welfare out the wazoo and are slowly drifting from the core values that made this country great. The same core values you will find in Libertarianism.
If you rob a gas station or mug an old lady you're still going to jail.
Jane Hoehne - 10 years ago
These principle are okay if you live in a utopia and believe every person does the right thing. Human nature just isn't that way.
Kyle is correct. It doesn't mean their is no laws. Everyone (every sane adult) should know right from wrong, and should decide to do the right thing, obviously not everyone will do the right thing, so if they do something that doesn't directly effect someone. If you kill, then yeah you deserve what you get (prison time). But if you grow hemp and make your own shoes or hat, why should you pentalized. Small government is where it's at. Big government and big corporations are just bullies, they think we should fear them. I disagree! We shouldn't be that way, we should be able to have a pretty free life.
I like how you're allowed to create paragraphs in the comment input format, and it removes them on posting to make organized opinions look like a rambling mess.
Okay, what if we have a civil society with only privatized, smaller armies. What happens if Russia decides it wants our land? We would privatize a large standing army. Would the leaders of a large standing army act in the best interest of everyone paying them, or would they just cut you out of the "protection" or kill you if they want something you have. People in power act in self interest, therefore corporations act in self interest.
Is our government that privatized, tyrannical army? Well no, we all collectively own the army already and make it's decisions by appointing representatives to control it.
What is currency? A social contract that you voluntarily sign. Money is agreed to have value by society, but it's exact value is controlled by our representative government. Privatizing the control of currency would again lead to a monopoly just like the standing military, but without collective representation or protected individual rights. Eventually abuse.
Every non-regulated industry would become a monopoly. Look at what happens when regulations are lobbied and repealed. Enron purposefully witheld power from citizens in order to charge higher fees. It occurred because of the repeal of market regulation. The people's representative voice is the government, which then brakes up monopolies and imposes regulation. We wouldn't create a privatized regulatory group without preservation of individual rights. And that IS our government. An elected body of leaders deciding how to best preserve individual freedoms and protect society and our country.
It doesn't always act in your interest, because that isn't the point of a voluntary collective authority. It (however effectively) acts in the general aligned interests of the voters. Why would we throw that system away to recreate the exact same thing? If you don't like something about certain governmental processes, then try to convince enough people to change it. There is the problem that people with enough money craft these rules for themselves, but that's going to be greatly exaggerated if we don't have a representative regulatory body and judiciary system. The government.
@ Jane Hoehne
Why would it have to be in a utopia?
Libertarianism doesn't say "You can do what you want."
It says "You can do what you want, as long as you don't cause harm to someone else."
I don't why people think that just means there is no more law and we just hope that everyone gets along.
Libertarianism is simple. Live and let live. Don't bother me, I won't bother you.
It's following the constitution. It worked for over 100 years and our country prospered. Now we as a nation are divided, fighting over things that shouldn't be anyone's business! We have welfare out the wazoo and are slowly drifting from the core values that made this country great. The same core values you will find in Libertarianism.
If you rob a gas station or mug an old lady you're still going to jail.
These principle are okay if you live in a utopia and believe every person does the right thing. Human nature just isn't that way.