My opinion is that this is not considered child abuse, based on the information provided there is not enough to hold the claim that she abused the child. That being said she does appear to be frustrated by the children and acted in a way that most parents would act. But you shouldn't blame her for it you should blame society because some kids are just simply very disrespectful and loud and parents are no longer allowed to properly discipline them because of fear of being considered "unfit" parents. But to fire a women over the fact that the daycare worker sprained a child's hand accidentally is just not right. Now had their been bruises or broken bones is a completely different story. But over a sprained arm is just not good enough to me. However I invite to hear others opinions.
Kyle - 10 years ago
I have a five year old son, who is not in a daycare program. Every comment I read blasted the worker for abuse, yet every one with a child, at one point or another has done that same thing. There's no audio in that video, and an arm strain, come on. These types of incidents happen at daycares, and with baby sitters every day, maybe the mom is the one who should reconsider her perspective. I would never want to see a child abused, EVER but, the line between abuse and discipline has grown so thin that our children are growing up to be unruly, and disrespectful. When these kids start doing drugs and breaking laws, people are quick to blame parents for not raising them right, but if basic discipline and the occasional spanking is considered abuse, then throw in the towel and let these kids raise themselves, most of you probably already do. Oh, and I'm only 28 years old, so the generation gap isn't that large.
della - 10 years ago
if a parent was seen doing this it would be considered child abuse. so why would it not be for the worker?
I think the worker is the one that needed a time out. I agree with Desiree
della - 10 years ago
if a parent was seen doing this it would be considered child abuse. so why would it not be for the worker?
I think the worker is the one that needed a time out. I agree with Desiree
mary - 10 years ago
i just had this some thing happened to my grand children last year and the state took my grandchildren
Melissa - 10 years ago
This is b.......... That woman should be charged just as a parent gets when they abuse their kids she should not be able to work with children anymore per say if we did it we would sit in jail and have to pay a fine and it would go on our record as child abuse this is so wrong........
Jody Mundy - 10 years ago
If you work with children or the elderly you should be aware that the joints are fragile and easy to injure or tear a rotator cuff. I think the woman was very wrong in what she did. She has no business taking care of anyone. That child was doing nothing wrong when she was attacked by that woman you could see how mad she was. The state of Missouri needs to rethink their policy. Congrats to the daycare owner for taking the action that he did it was the right thing to do. This was no accident. That woman should be made to pay the medical bills as well as being put on the no hire registry. If you were in Illinois I believe you would be facing criminal charges as you should be.
alicia arth - 10 years ago
As a health professional...what is not to say but yes that was. I have seen this so many times as cases are unsubstantiated...it's a shame this happened to a poor innocent baby who does not now right from wrong.
jayne D - 10 years ago
That child is hurt from the woman, its called abuse. no matter what happened to that woman their is no excuse to grab the child and hurt her! that case needs to be reopened and analyzed. This is ridiculous, that teacher should have approached the situation differently. makes me really mad an its not even my child!
Although her intent was not to hurt a child..she did hurt the child....Nobody has the right to put their hands on another person, especially a teacher...this lady should never be allowed to work with children in any compacity what so ever...Both of those children in this video were abused...only one was physically harmed. I dont think this teacher was taught that she could put her hands on a child if they frustrated he???? ABUSE BY ALL MEANS and even criminal charges should be made against this teacher.
Nikki Birdsell - 10 years ago
I feel uncomfortable labeling this out and out abuse. However, I do feel that this person should not be working with children. There was no reason for her to yank around on those kids. The children were not in danger of harming themselves or harming others so there was absolutely no reason to grab them like that or isolate that little girl. I would not want that person taking care of my children or any child.
Charlotte - 10 years ago
This is child abuse in any language! The authorities are so way off base! This should be in her file, the family should file a child abuse suit against her, so that this incident is in her record! Who knows what this child will have to go through if or when her Mom has to (evidently Mom needs daycare) place her in another center. This child will be terrified! I saw this on KTVI News web site, I am from Festus. The owner did the right thing! The parent did the right thing! The State dropped the ball! To those of you who think this was an accident, NO WAY!
sue - 10 years ago
I believe this was an accident. The teacher did not intend to hurt the child. But she was way to rough with all of the children and really shouldn't be allowed to care for children of this age. If any of these children were my children I would be highly upset with the teacher's behavior and would not want her to care for my child. IT's tough enough to have to leave your child with other caregivers, then to find out how roughly they had been treated would be devastating to me.
sue woodall - 10 years ago
I believe this was an accident. The teacher did not intend to hurt the child. But she was way to rough with all of the children and really shouldn't be allowed to care for children of this age. If any of these children were my children I would be highly upset with the teacher's behavior and would not want her to care for my child. IT's tough enough to have to leave your child with other caregivers, then to find out how roughly they had been treated would be devastating to me.
Samantha - 10 years ago
It fits with the definition give for 'abuse' but if they won't charge her with that she at least need some type of assault or maybe endangering or something...This is not okay and the worker should, at the very least, have something included on her record about it. Causing harm to a child is never okay. If she thinks it is okay to drag a toddler like that she should not be allowed to work in child care. There are so many other ways she could have dealt with that IF the child had actually been doing something wrong. If she wasn't supposed to have the towel then fine tell her she's not supposed to have it and ask her to give it to you or put it up. There should not have been aggression.
Michele - 10 years ago
I agree with Desiree.
There is a way to approach a childs behavoir and that lady didnt do it properly . What happens if she has kids what does she do to them ? She should be on the registry list as a NO HIRE!
Rachel - 10 years ago
DESIREE said it perfectly
Desiree - 10 years ago
I think that there is a proper way to communicate with children, and a proper way to address a child's behavior. I do not think grabbing a child by one arm is the proper way at all. If she is taking care of children as a profession then she should have known that from the beginning. However, I have worked in a daycare and am a parent of three toddlers, so i do know that frustration is very hard to control sometimes, but with young children, you need to step back, and think to yourself...how can i deal with this in a positive way to teach the child. And I did have to debate whether or not to call this abuse. But what it comes down to, is putting yourself in that position, as the teacher and as the mother. If that was my child, I would be upset that my daughter was hurt in the care of this teacher, and bottom line, the teacher should have taken a minute to slowly walk the child over to the chair and explain the problem, and how she would like to see the child's behavior changed. There is no excuse to grab them hard enough to have a sprain in the child's arm.
My opinion is that this is not considered child abuse, based on the information provided there is not enough to hold the claim that she abused the child. That being said she does appear to be frustrated by the children and acted in a way that most parents would act. But you shouldn't blame her for it you should blame society because some kids are just simply very disrespectful and loud and parents are no longer allowed to properly discipline them because of fear of being considered "unfit" parents. But to fire a women over the fact that the daycare worker sprained a child's hand accidentally is just not right. Now had their been bruises or broken bones is a completely different story. But over a sprained arm is just not good enough to me. However I invite to hear others opinions.
I have a five year old son, who is not in a daycare program. Every comment I read blasted the worker for abuse, yet every one with a child, at one point or another has done that same thing. There's no audio in that video, and an arm strain, come on. These types of incidents happen at daycares, and with baby sitters every day, maybe the mom is the one who should reconsider her perspective. I would never want to see a child abused, EVER but, the line between abuse and discipline has grown so thin that our children are growing up to be unruly, and disrespectful. When these kids start doing drugs and breaking laws, people are quick to blame parents for not raising them right, but if basic discipline and the occasional spanking is considered abuse, then throw in the towel and let these kids raise themselves, most of you probably already do. Oh, and I'm only 28 years old, so the generation gap isn't that large.
if a parent was seen doing this it would be considered child abuse. so why would it not be for the worker?
I think the worker is the one that needed a time out. I agree with Desiree
if a parent was seen doing this it would be considered child abuse. so why would it not be for the worker?
I think the worker is the one that needed a time out. I agree with Desiree
i just had this some thing happened to my grand children last year and the state took my grandchildren
This is b.......... That woman should be charged just as a parent gets when they abuse their kids she should not be able to work with children anymore per say if we did it we would sit in jail and have to pay a fine and it would go on our record as child abuse this is so wrong........
If you work with children or the elderly you should be aware that the joints are fragile and easy to injure or tear a rotator cuff. I think the woman was very wrong in what she did. She has no business taking care of anyone. That child was doing nothing wrong when she was attacked by that woman you could see how mad she was. The state of Missouri needs to rethink their policy. Congrats to the daycare owner for taking the action that he did it was the right thing to do. This was no accident. That woman should be made to pay the medical bills as well as being put on the no hire registry. If you were in Illinois I believe you would be facing criminal charges as you should be.
As a health professional...what is not to say but yes that was. I have seen this so many times as cases are unsubstantiated...it's a shame this happened to a poor innocent baby who does not now right from wrong.
That child is hurt from the woman, its called abuse. no matter what happened to that woman their is no excuse to grab the child and hurt her! that case needs to be reopened and analyzed. This is ridiculous, that teacher should have approached the situation differently. makes me really mad an its not even my child!
Although her intent was not to hurt a child..she did hurt the child....Nobody has the right to put their hands on another person, especially a teacher...this lady should never be allowed to work with children in any compacity what so ever...Both of those children in this video were abused...only one was physically harmed. I dont think this teacher was taught that she could put her hands on a child if they frustrated he???? ABUSE BY ALL MEANS and even criminal charges should be made against this teacher.
I feel uncomfortable labeling this out and out abuse. However, I do feel that this person should not be working with children. There was no reason for her to yank around on those kids. The children were not in danger of harming themselves or harming others so there was absolutely no reason to grab them like that or isolate that little girl. I would not want that person taking care of my children or any child.
This is child abuse in any language! The authorities are so way off base! This should be in her file, the family should file a child abuse suit against her, so that this incident is in her record! Who knows what this child will have to go through if or when her Mom has to (evidently Mom needs daycare) place her in another center. This child will be terrified! I saw this on KTVI News web site, I am from Festus. The owner did the right thing! The parent did the right thing! The State dropped the ball! To those of you who think this was an accident, NO WAY!
I believe this was an accident. The teacher did not intend to hurt the child. But she was way to rough with all of the children and really shouldn't be allowed to care for children of this age. If any of these children were my children I would be highly upset with the teacher's behavior and would not want her to care for my child. IT's tough enough to have to leave your child with other caregivers, then to find out how roughly they had been treated would be devastating to me.
I believe this was an accident. The teacher did not intend to hurt the child. But she was way to rough with all of the children and really shouldn't be allowed to care for children of this age. If any of these children were my children I would be highly upset with the teacher's behavior and would not want her to care for my child. IT's tough enough to have to leave your child with other caregivers, then to find out how roughly they had been treated would be devastating to me.
It fits with the definition give for 'abuse' but if they won't charge her with that she at least need some type of assault or maybe endangering or something...This is not okay and the worker should, at the very least, have something included on her record about it. Causing harm to a child is never okay. If she thinks it is okay to drag a toddler like that she should not be allowed to work in child care. There are so many other ways she could have dealt with that IF the child had actually been doing something wrong. If she wasn't supposed to have the towel then fine tell her she's not supposed to have it and ask her to give it to you or put it up. There should not have been aggression.
I agree with Desiree.
There is a way to approach a childs behavoir and that lady didnt do it properly . What happens if she has kids what does she do to them ? She should be on the registry list as a NO HIRE!
DESIREE said it perfectly
I think that there is a proper way to communicate with children, and a proper way to address a child's behavior. I do not think grabbing a child by one arm is the proper way at all. If she is taking care of children as a profession then she should have known that from the beginning. However, I have worked in a daycare and am a parent of three toddlers, so i do know that frustration is very hard to control sometimes, but with young children, you need to step back, and think to yourself...how can i deal with this in a positive way to teach the child. And I did have to debate whether or not to call this abuse. But what it comes down to, is putting yourself in that position, as the teacher and as the mother. If that was my child, I would be upset that my daughter was hurt in the care of this teacher, and bottom line, the teacher should have taken a minute to slowly walk the child over to the chair and explain the problem, and how she would like to see the child's behavior changed. There is no excuse to grab them hard enough to have a sprain in the child's arm.