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http://horsejumpracing.global2.vic.edu.au
And share your ideas and watch what really happens in horse jump racing and some information And pics
Tess - 9 years ago
BAN HORSE JUMP RACING!!!!!!
WHEN YOU HOP ON A HORSE YOUR BORROWING ITS FREEDOM TO LIVE GIVE IT BACK NOW !!
I've seen heaps of horse that have been badly distressed by racing ban it know ! Before its to late !
Kelsey - 9 years ago
Horse jump racing is cruel and I think it should be banned because of the amount of horses That Have died from racing is unbelievable ban horse jump racing donate On horseracingkills.com
Tess - 9 years ago
How much do you know about horses ? Obviously not enough.
When I hop on my horse I'm borrowing her freedom, GIVE IT BACK. We ride horses to have fun and feel the freedom that they share when we climb on there backs, we don't ride them to take all there life out just because we need or want money.
How would you feel if something or someone you love keeps dying?
Eden - 9 years ago
Some people need to have a heart. Horses should NOT be used for our entertainment in sport or for money. I work at my local riding school and there is a school horse called Tony and he does not trust people from what the racing industry has done to him. He is very unhappy and does not like it when people come near him and will try to bite you if you go close enough. IN RIDING A HORSE, YOU'RE BORROWING FREEDOM, GIVE IT BACK!
Leim - 10 years ago
The only thing that owners, breeders, jockeys, trainers etc. are interested in is the money made from race horses, so don' t even try the excuse that they love their horses . Utter rubbish, I am sure that if you love an animal you would not willingly send it off to the Knackery when it has nothing left to offer in a financial way. Racing always has been about money and always will be, that's the way it is. STOP all racing, flat and jumps, it is just part of the chain for the Pet food trade.
Carolyn - 10 years ago
It is not natural for a horse to jump, the equine scientists (globally) confirm this fact.
The horse is forced to jump when its life is threatened when fleeing a predator, a fire
or a storm. If you know anything about horses you would know that one does not
see horses jumping in paddocks, they trickle feed, sleep, walk, canter, trot and gallop.
The humans in jumps racing force the horses to jump. Being a herd and prey animal they
stick to one another and when a jockey is dislodged the horse will run on to keep up
with his mates - the herd. Then people inadvertently assume that the horse loves to race. The well publicised incident with Banna Strand some years ago is a classic example of a horse displaying behaviour that it does not want to jumps race. The horse is subservient to a rider on its back and when that rider
flogs it with a whip inflicting pain and fear in the animal, forcing it to jump when the horse most times cannot sight the jump, galloping at fast speed when seriously fatigued, the horse finds itself in a situation where it has no escape. The fact that the horses die, suffer serious injury and mysteriously disappear from jumps racing after having suffered an injury and/or a fall is indisputable evidence that jumps racing is sickeningly cruel and barbaric. Horses do not love to race, many refuse to go into the barriers, many lay down in the barriers and become cast refusing to race, some take charge of the rider and run off the track (some horses have died or suffered serious injury) and often horses dump their jockeys en route to the barriers or past the winning post. Many horses are scratched due to them displaying behaviour indicating that they do not want to race. Most horses go out carrying an injury and/or a subclinical health issue which threatens their life (the vets in the industry have a lot to answer for) but they cannot say to the trainer/jockey/officials "i'm not up to this, i'm sick". e.g. More Joyous.
If you know any thing about horses at all you would know that you can not make a horse jump if they don,t want to ,most horses love to race and jump ,the ones that don,t will not be doing it
Fran Radnor - 10 years ago
We do not have the right to use ANY animal for so called human entertainment.
Tanya - 10 years ago
As I said Carolyn. I have my opinion and I don't really give a shit what you want to do with it.
Carolyn - 10 years ago
It appears that the Victorian Premier, Dennis Napthene, has at the last minute rescinded the code of practice for factory puppy breeding (4 years of work has gone into this new code) which was going to protect the breeding dogs. It has been stated on the radio that a breeding dog can now remain confined in a cage/box for 23 hours a day, can have five litters and a vet is to check it before it breeds and after it has given birth.
What happens to the dog when she has reached her limit of 5 litters. Probably same fate as the horses.
It was stated on the radio that these vets are on the payroll of the breeders, therefore no protection for these poor dogs.
Not only is Dennis Napthene a retired Veterinarian but he is a big supporter of Jumps Racing and is forever defending the barbaric "sport". Says it all!
carolyn - 10 years ago
So Tanya i see you stated in your post "15 horses died in five years" obviously this is fine with you.
And what has the disgusting puppy breeding problem got to do with Jumps Racing? It seems you
have very little knowledge of what goes on with these horses in jumps racing. Most jumps horses
have failed on the flat, the owners are unhappy about their failed investment and trainers often
suggest jumps racing because it is lucrative and highly likely owners will make a profit on their
investment, become happy and stay interested in being a racehorse owner and trainer keeps his
owner. Sadly i need to inform you that the great majority of jumps horses end up in the
slaughter house along with the great majority of flat racing horses. Jumps racing does not save
the horses from an inhumane death, it just delays it and during that delay the trainers/owners
play Russian Roulette with these noble animals.
Carolyn - 10 years ago
It doesn't really matter how long a jumps race is (but the longer the distance the
worse it is for the horse of course) the simple fact is that to force a horse to fast
gallop and jump over hurdles and steeples is a lethal combination for
the horse, history has proven this fact. The jockeys flogging the horses
when these animals are seriously fatigued and in fear of their well being is barbaric.
The horses suffer and come to grief but the jockeys very rarely experience injury,
they know how to look after themselves and land, they're skilled at it. The jockeys
love the adrenalin rushes, the daredevil and dog eat dog style of riding, they're
addicted to it, they have no regard whatsoever for the animals beneath them.
If they did care about the horses then they would have nothing to do with jumps racing.
Tanya - 10 years ago
Thank you Des and Catherine. Nobody commented for hours, I make a comment and BAM. Everybody shoots me down. It's as if you were just waiting to have a go at somebody. And Kerry , everyone is entitled to a opinion. I am allowed to have mine. 15 horses have died in five years. Talking about breeders, in puppy mills one dog dies every minute, why are their no protestors out the front looking out for these poor animals. Just think your efforts could be more useful in other areas.
Jazail taba - 10 years ago
I don't think it should be banned look if you ban jumps racing you would have to ban steeple chase and anything to do with jumping also horses die in flat racing from heart attacks or tripping. But no one wants to ban any of that It's stupid, everyone should just drop it you are all pathetic if you say it should be banned because that is the horses last chance before some are dogged is that any nicer and what about all the horses that are ill treated RSPCA should be helping them. But no they like to say that this is bad some horses are made for it and some arnt end of story!
Kathryn - 10 years ago
Catherine you love them like family? Do you play russian roulette with your family? Would you let children in your family play a sport that has a 1 in 25 chance of killing them? What about even 1 in 100? Why is it I have an ex jumps horse in my paddock at the moment in shocking condition if he was "loved like family"? Fact is there are at least 2 races I can think of in a split second that are run at 5k or over. Fact is there is a number of jumps horses that run on the flat, Fact is that the majority of jumps horses have more starts on the flat then over the jumps, fact is that it is greedy owners and trainers trying to squeeze every cent out of these horses before they are deemed as usless, fact is jumps racing is unpopular, unviable and kills its competitors at an alarming rate. Fact is that you don't love these horses if you put them at such a high risk of death! BAN JUMPS RACING!
Bob Prancer - 10 years ago
As an attendee of the Oakbank Carnival for the last 5 years, I've seen several horses killed on the racetrack. I've seen plenty fall. It's a sickening site I never want to see again. This year I'm going to Oakbank as a protestor. Enough is enough. The carnival is a great tradition but not jumps racing.
Des, Tanya said they DONT race over 5 kms, I provided proof they do (the Grand Annual is even longer), point to me. She also said that jumps horses don't run in the flat. I've, off the top of hay head named 2 (I can come up with many more examples if you need), point 2 to me.
Trainer of Black Moon claims he spent 3 years "fixing" this horse,.
Can someone please explain why he was being raced under a different trainer 18 months ago?
But finally, if you can't ensure that a horse you own and race, has a retirement plan then DONT OWN THEM OR RACE THEM.
Over breeding and irresponsible ownership does not justify this disgusting sport.
Catherine - 10 years ago
My family has been involved all our life's. from my pa's parents, parents to
Today. Not one of us send our horse out with the intent to harm. The same as the rugby player who went out and is in hospital unable to walk, he never went out thinking shit I may get hurt. You RSPCA people have no idea. When the going gets tough you hide. Most of us have a heart, unlike some of you. We love them like family. You people are a waste of oxygen. Happy Easter.
Des - 10 years ago
Kerrie generally by the time horses are put over the jumps they are no longer competitive on the flat. Point one to Tanya. The great majority of jumps races are run over distances of 3600 metres or less. Point two to Tanya. John, what a load of tripe. I'm thinking you have more than a "fleshy shell" to worry about. So you're into baking cakes, visiting art galleries and in a same sex marriage. Good for you mate.
Catherine - 10 years ago
My family has been involved all our life's. from my pa's parents, parents to
Today. Not one of us send our horse out with the intent to harm. The same as the rugby player who went out and is in hospital unable to walk, he never went out thinking shit I may get hurt. You RSPCA people have no idea. When the going gets tough you hide. Most of us have a heart, unlike some of you. We love them like family. You people are a waste of oxygen. Happy Easter.
John Quiggley - 10 years ago
Shut up, Tanya. The real question you should be asking yourself is: 'How much do I, Tanya Jonas, know?'
By using my unparalleled skill of educated guesses, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you don't know much at all. Let me put this into perspective for you; let's say you break your leg one day by tripping over wonky pavement. Ouch, right? Instead of being let to heal at a hospital, the doctor says to your mother, 'We're gonna have to put her down. She is of no use to the world in this state'. I'm sure you'd have qualms about having no choice about your right to live. Or would you let me ride around on your back for a year, on and off, while I complete daily errands? To which you might think, 'But I -- and humans in general -- are not built for travelling around on hands and knees whilst being ridden by another human completely capable of walking for themselves!' To which I say to you Tanya, and this may shock you a little, horses weren't born to serve as patsies for insipid entertainment, either.
Here's a quotation from Gandhi so you can hopefully see why you're part of the problem:
“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”
Since we're also throwing suggestions around, how about you stop attending these so called 'sports' and indulge yourself in less petty things. Like, oh I don't know, maybe sitting down and considering how much humanity you possess in that fleshy shell of yours. Or baking a cake for the homeless. Or visiting an art gallery if you're feeling a little lazy. The possibilities to be more compassionate are really limitless.
Also, 'all those protestors', as you put, are able to focus their attention to various issues regarding animals and their plights. It's not like people have capped ability to care. To infer the opposite is like saying it's impossible to dance and listen to music at the same time. Or only care about same-sex marriage but not hate-crimes regarding sexuality.
Really Tanya? Did you know that one of the horses killed won over $400,000 on the flat before he was out over jumps? Then there was another that has won on excess of $1,000,000, has broken down twice and is still going to be brought back in.
Oh and the Great Eastern Steeplechase is 4950. Meters. So yes they DO race joe to 5 kms.
Tanya Jonas - 10 years ago
How much do you know???? The jumps are not one metre high and they don't run 5 kilometres. No jumps and all those horses will be put down as that is what they do , they don't run on the flat. So all those protesters should be aiming their plite at dog breaders and dog fights and poeple who actually hurt or don't feed their animals.
Go on this blog
http://horsejumpracing.global2.vic.edu.au
And share your ideas and watch what really happens in horse jump racing and some information And pics
BAN HORSE JUMP RACING!!!!!!
WHEN YOU HOP ON A HORSE YOUR BORROWING ITS FREEDOM TO LIVE GIVE IT BACK NOW !!
I've seen heaps of horse that have been badly distressed by racing ban it know ! Before its to late !
Horse jump racing is cruel and I think it should be banned because of the amount of horses That Have died from racing is unbelievable ban horse jump racing donate On horseracingkills.com
How much do you know about horses ? Obviously not enough.
When I hop on my horse I'm borrowing her freedom, GIVE IT BACK. We ride horses to have fun and feel the freedom that they share when we climb on there backs, we don't ride them to take all there life out just because we need or want money.
How would you feel if something or someone you love keeps dying?
Some people need to have a heart. Horses should NOT be used for our entertainment in sport or for money. I work at my local riding school and there is a school horse called Tony and he does not trust people from what the racing industry has done to him. He is very unhappy and does not like it when people come near him and will try to bite you if you go close enough. IN RIDING A HORSE, YOU'RE BORROWING FREEDOM, GIVE IT BACK!
The only thing that owners, breeders, jockeys, trainers etc. are interested in is the money made from race horses, so don' t even try the excuse that they love their horses . Utter rubbish, I am sure that if you love an animal you would not willingly send it off to the Knackery when it has nothing left to offer in a financial way. Racing always has been about money and always will be, that's the way it is. STOP all racing, flat and jumps, it is just part of the chain for the Pet food trade.
It is not natural for a horse to jump, the equine scientists (globally) confirm this fact.
The horse is forced to jump when its life is threatened when fleeing a predator, a fire
or a storm. If you know anything about horses you would know that one does not
see horses jumping in paddocks, they trickle feed, sleep, walk, canter, trot and gallop.
The humans in jumps racing force the horses to jump. Being a herd and prey animal they
stick to one another and when a jockey is dislodged the horse will run on to keep up
with his mates - the herd. Then people inadvertently assume that the horse loves to race. The well publicised incident with Banna Strand some years ago is a classic example of a horse displaying behaviour that it does not want to jumps race. The horse is subservient to a rider on its back and when that rider
flogs it with a whip inflicting pain and fear in the animal, forcing it to jump when the horse most times cannot sight the jump, galloping at fast speed when seriously fatigued, the horse finds itself in a situation where it has no escape. The fact that the horses die, suffer serious injury and mysteriously disappear from jumps racing after having suffered an injury and/or a fall is indisputable evidence that jumps racing is sickeningly cruel and barbaric. Horses do not love to race, many refuse to go into the barriers, many lay down in the barriers and become cast refusing to race, some take charge of the rider and run off the track (some horses have died or suffered serious injury) and often horses dump their jockeys en route to the barriers or past the winning post. Many horses are scratched due to them displaying behaviour indicating that they do not want to race. Most horses go out carrying an injury and/or a subclinical health issue which threatens their life (the vets in the industry have a lot to answer for) but they cannot say to the trainer/jockey/officials "i'm not up to this, i'm sick". e.g. More Joyous.
If you know any thing about horses at all you would know that you can not make a horse jump if they don,t want to ,most horses love to race and jump ,the ones that don,t will not be doing it
We do not have the right to use ANY animal for so called human entertainment.
As I said Carolyn. I have my opinion and I don't really give a shit what you want to do with it.
It appears that the Victorian Premier, Dennis Napthene, has at the last minute rescinded the code of practice for factory puppy breeding (4 years of work has gone into this new code) which was going to protect the breeding dogs. It has been stated on the radio that a breeding dog can now remain confined in a cage/box for 23 hours a day, can have five litters and a vet is to check it before it breeds and after it has given birth.
What happens to the dog when she has reached her limit of 5 litters. Probably same fate as the horses.
It was stated on the radio that these vets are on the payroll of the breeders, therefore no protection for these poor dogs.
Not only is Dennis Napthene a retired Veterinarian but he is a big supporter of Jumps Racing and is forever defending the barbaric "sport". Says it all!
So Tanya i see you stated in your post "15 horses died in five years" obviously this is fine with you.
And what has the disgusting puppy breeding problem got to do with Jumps Racing? It seems you
have very little knowledge of what goes on with these horses in jumps racing. Most jumps horses
have failed on the flat, the owners are unhappy about their failed investment and trainers often
suggest jumps racing because it is lucrative and highly likely owners will make a profit on their
investment, become happy and stay interested in being a racehorse owner and trainer keeps his
owner. Sadly i need to inform you that the great majority of jumps horses end up in the
slaughter house along with the great majority of flat racing horses. Jumps racing does not save
the horses from an inhumane death, it just delays it and during that delay the trainers/owners
play Russian Roulette with these noble animals.
It doesn't really matter how long a jumps race is (but the longer the distance the
worse it is for the horse of course) the simple fact is that to force a horse to fast
gallop and jump over hurdles and steeples is a lethal combination for
the horse, history has proven this fact. The jockeys flogging the horses
when these animals are seriously fatigued and in fear of their well being is barbaric.
The horses suffer and come to grief but the jockeys very rarely experience injury,
they know how to look after themselves and land, they're skilled at it. The jockeys
love the adrenalin rushes, the daredevil and dog eat dog style of riding, they're
addicted to it, they have no regard whatsoever for the animals beneath them.
If they did care about the horses then they would have nothing to do with jumps racing.
Thank you Des and Catherine. Nobody commented for hours, I make a comment and BAM. Everybody shoots me down. It's as if you were just waiting to have a go at somebody. And Kerry , everyone is entitled to a opinion. I am allowed to have mine. 15 horses have died in five years. Talking about breeders, in puppy mills one dog dies every minute, why are their no protestors out the front looking out for these poor animals. Just think your efforts could be more useful in other areas.
I don't think it should be banned look if you ban jumps racing you would have to ban steeple chase and anything to do with jumping also horses die in flat racing from heart attacks or tripping. But no one wants to ban any of that It's stupid, everyone should just drop it you are all pathetic if you say it should be banned because that is the horses last chance before some are dogged is that any nicer and what about all the horses that are ill treated RSPCA should be helping them. But no they like to say that this is bad some horses are made for it and some arnt end of story!
Catherine you love them like family? Do you play russian roulette with your family? Would you let children in your family play a sport that has a 1 in 25 chance of killing them? What about even 1 in 100? Why is it I have an ex jumps horse in my paddock at the moment in shocking condition if he was "loved like family"? Fact is there are at least 2 races I can think of in a split second that are run at 5k or over. Fact is there is a number of jumps horses that run on the flat, Fact is that the majority of jumps horses have more starts on the flat then over the jumps, fact is that it is greedy owners and trainers trying to squeeze every cent out of these horses before they are deemed as usless, fact is jumps racing is unpopular, unviable and kills its competitors at an alarming rate. Fact is that you don't love these horses if you put them at such a high risk of death! BAN JUMPS RACING!
As an attendee of the Oakbank Carnival for the last 5 years, I've seen several horses killed on the racetrack. I've seen plenty fall. It's a sickening site I never want to see again. This year I'm going to Oakbank as a protestor. Enough is enough. The carnival is a great tradition but not jumps racing.
Des, Tanya said they DONT race over 5 kms, I provided proof they do (the Grand Annual is even longer), point to me. She also said that jumps horses don't run in the flat. I've, off the top of hay head named 2 (I can come up with many more examples if you need), point 2 to me.
Trainer of Black Moon claims he spent 3 years "fixing" this horse,.
Can someone please explain why he was being raced under a different trainer 18 months ago?
But finally, if you can't ensure that a horse you own and race, has a retirement plan then DONT OWN THEM OR RACE THEM.
Over breeding and irresponsible ownership does not justify this disgusting sport.
My family has been involved all our life's. from my pa's parents, parents to
Today. Not one of us send our horse out with the intent to harm. The same as the rugby player who went out and is in hospital unable to walk, he never went out thinking shit I may get hurt. You RSPCA people have no idea. When the going gets tough you hide. Most of us have a heart, unlike some of you. We love them like family. You people are a waste of oxygen. Happy Easter.
Kerrie generally by the time horses are put over the jumps they are no longer competitive on the flat. Point one to Tanya. The great majority of jumps races are run over distances of 3600 metres or less. Point two to Tanya. John, what a load of tripe. I'm thinking you have more than a "fleshy shell" to worry about. So you're into baking cakes, visiting art galleries and in a same sex marriage. Good for you mate.
My family has been involved all our life's. from my pa's parents, parents to
Today. Not one of us send our horse out with the intent to harm. The same as the rugby player who went out and is in hospital unable to walk, he never went out thinking shit I may get hurt. You RSPCA people have no idea. When the going gets tough you hide. Most of us have a heart, unlike some of you. We love them like family. You people are a waste of oxygen. Happy Easter.
Shut up, Tanya. The real question you should be asking yourself is: 'How much do I, Tanya Jonas, know?'
By using my unparalleled skill of educated guesses, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you don't know much at all. Let me put this into perspective for you; let's say you break your leg one day by tripping over wonky pavement. Ouch, right? Instead of being let to heal at a hospital, the doctor says to your mother, 'We're gonna have to put her down. She is of no use to the world in this state'. I'm sure you'd have qualms about having no choice about your right to live. Or would you let me ride around on your back for a year, on and off, while I complete daily errands? To which you might think, 'But I -- and humans in general -- are not built for travelling around on hands and knees whilst being ridden by another human completely capable of walking for themselves!' To which I say to you Tanya, and this may shock you a little, horses weren't born to serve as patsies for insipid entertainment, either.
Here's a quotation from Gandhi so you can hopefully see why you're part of the problem:
“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”
Since we're also throwing suggestions around, how about you stop attending these so called 'sports' and indulge yourself in less petty things. Like, oh I don't know, maybe sitting down and considering how much humanity you possess in that fleshy shell of yours. Or baking a cake for the homeless. Or visiting an art gallery if you're feeling a little lazy. The possibilities to be more compassionate are really limitless.
Also, 'all those protestors', as you put, are able to focus their attention to various issues regarding animals and their plights. It's not like people have capped ability to care. To infer the opposite is like saying it's impossible to dance and listen to music at the same time. Or only care about same-sex marriage but not hate-crimes regarding sexuality.
Really Tanya? Did you know that one of the horses killed won over $400,000 on the flat before he was out over jumps? Then there was another that has won on excess of $1,000,000, has broken down twice and is still going to be brought back in.
Oh and the Great Eastern Steeplechase is 4950. Meters. So yes they DO race joe to 5 kms.
How much do you know???? The jumps are not one metre high and they don't run 5 kilometres. No jumps and all those horses will be put down as that is what they do , they don't run on the flat. So all those protesters should be aiming their plite at dog breaders and dog fights and poeple who actually hurt or don't feed their animals.