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Which of the following country would back India in a War? (Poll Closed)

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43 Comments

  • KISHOR - 9 years ago

    I think Russia & America will keep quit in the war. They will only appear in the war to resolve it peacefully. they will never support with ammunition because they are both trying to capture market of India & Pakisthan. They will never agree to loose such a big client. I think India should make good relation with Israel . Because Israel’s are against terrorism ( religious ) just like America and they are innovative like Russia.

  • v - 9 years ago

    As far as green peace is concerned they r whining for building port in odisha for protection of turtles. And see their lie www.bhubaneswarbuzz.com/updates/travel-tourism/odisha-coast-sees-record-7-million-olive-ridley-hatchlings-this-year
    How America and Pakistan exploited muslim which result in creation of terrorist against russia and now world.
    U don't care abt terrorism until 9/11 cause u also have stakes in their creation. U always play role of holier than thou.
    How u r interest in Middle East is going down as u r becoming self sufficient in Oil.
    U r showing concern abt environment who have highest energy consumption per person.Its like making murderer a jury.
    U said very well its all abt Money.I'll say its Business (Money, ego,influence etc.). And that DEMOCRACY argument is SHIT. If that is case then there will be AMERICA-SAUDI AREBIA INCENT RELATIONSHIP.

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    Mssr. Jaspal Singh,

    If Japan did help India, it would be as a force integrated within the US 7th Fleet. Due to the Japanese constitution, there's no possibility that Japan would come to India's aid, on its own except for humanitarian relief, .

    If India doesn't have US help in a war, then India will be more or less alone.. Only the US has both the air-sea lift capacity, the spare war material, and the political will to make much difference in a China-India conflict. As you point out, Russia would not go against China, and would likely cut off support to India in any conflict with China.

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    Mssr. v,

    Clearly you have an issue with certain NGOs. You seem to think NGOs are a tool of the US government, which is just dead wrong. Anyone in the US can become an NGO so long as they do not operate fro profit.

    How do you feel about Hindu nationalist NGOs, which seem to have escaped the criticism leveled at other religions and at environmental groups like Greenpeace (Greenpeace isn't American, it was founded in Canada, is headquartered in The Netherlands_? Frankly, this NGO crackdown seems to me nothing more than wealthy corporations paying politicians off so they can keep polluting, and entrenched religious bureaucracies trying to keep other religions from converting their members. Same thing happens in other democracies, because money talks, and little people get crushed underfoot.

    Your foreign policy seems rooted in ancient times. Two years before Nehru became president, we were fighting Japan. Now Japan's military is almost totally integrated with US 7th fleet.

  • Jaspal Singh - 9 years ago

    If in case of war America won't support India then it will lose it's dominance in Asia including The Indian Ocean.
    If India wants to go for Rafale deal to France instead of Russia's Su-35, Russia may also think of moving to China and Pakistan.
    Relations between Russia and China are improving and it does not have any other option because of it's deteriorating relations with the west.
    If India would be having any war that would be with China and Pakistan and Russia won't go against China.

    Definitely we can expect some help from Japan, as Japan is already having some conflict with China because of east China Sea.

    So in the end i would say, both Japan and America would support India in case of war, but we cannot trust America too much so i vote goes to Japan.

  • V - 9 years ago

    I'm not saying America is enemy but also not friend. We know love of America for Russia.Estonia is just such example.U r just using someone's shoulder to enemy. Ex prime minister Nehru come to America with hand of friendship but u ignored India because we were not relevant then.For now we r relevant and can be used to counter balance China.
    Also u r love for American NGO in India shown by Richard Varma.How America utilize NGO farce is well known.Stalling of Nuclear power plant by Russia and mining of uranium in North East of India is known.How lots of money come to India for soul harvesting is also known.Why Baptist and catholic church fights r solve in America?
    American and Indian relationship should be positive.But u can't rely complety on America.
    As for as Israel is concerned ,they have proven relationship in kargil war.Also technological help that's what is needed.Which they do without NGO farce and soul harvesting business.

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    Mssr. v

    The Gallup polls for the last decade don't lie. American _people_ rank India with nations like UK and Japan (i.e. "very positively").

    US friendships with democracies have always gone beyond self-interest. What US selfish self-interest includes Estonian independence from Russia? None I can think of. But US defends it because it is a democracy. US and UK saved Berlin from Russia during Berlin Airlift when Berlin was rubble upon rubble.

    How many other nations outside NATO would come to the aid of a threatened democracy? Israel might try but is too small and too threatened itself to do more than support equipment purchased from Israel. . Russia and China have nothing in common with democracy.

    Would you rather see Pakistan 100% dependent on Chinese military? Having US military ties to Pakistan's nuclear armed military is GOOD FOR INDIA. Most of these deliveries are worn out old weapons from Afghanistan and Iraq that US doesn't want to ship home.

    But If you want America as an enemy, then you're of course free to lobby your government to that effect. I think Indian-US friendship is natural and timely.

  • v - 9 years ago

    Ha Ha Ha Ha ha! ! American and India has similarities democracy.....err...democracy .... .U do not take much interest in middle east now u became self efficient in oil needs. U r using India to counter China.U'r NGO farce don't work in China which u used to weaken internal structure. U'r talking abt friendship and on other side u fund terrorist Pak. U may help India against China but we'll have to pay great prize for that. So America is not friend but Businesses and we have to negotiate cautiously.

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    Mssr. v.

    With respect, 1971 is ancient history for US-India relations. India is an extremely popular country with 21st century Americans, and the US government's attitude toward modern India reflect this.

    India needs democratic allies. Democratic countries have an excellent record of coming to each others' aid. The US Air Force just sent warplanes to democratic Estonia to counter threats from Russia. The world needs a democratic military alliance in the Indo-Pacific similar to NATO.

    NATO has kept peace in Europe for 70 years.

  • Prashant - 9 years ago

    Actually no country will be much of the help in any future war with india.The reason India main adversary is China now and i dont think Russia or Israel will interfare considering Chinese business influence on both of the counties. Only USA and Japan may come for India rescue but that is also in nevel buildup but in northeast border India has to defend on their own from chinese army.Everyone know who good their militry infracture and suppy line in terms of Lhasa railway line in tibet region and we all also know who bad India's postion in terms of Road condition and militry infracture in Arunachal Pradesh.The clash point would be Tawang and it would be diffcult for indians to hold this city for long.India will loose substential area in arunchal pradesh border but i think the clash would be a short lived one and will only be initiated by china to gain some more land before international community intervention.

  • v - 9 years ago

    America is pure Business.They have been trying to change demography of India.Many projects like nuclear plant,mining of uranium in north east of India etc had been stalled by us.Also in 1971 war they have send ships against india. All NGO,evangelist trash has exported to us by usa.Once again America means Business.

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    Simple fact is that US is only country with enough resources to offer India enough aid to make a difference in wartime. Israel might offer minor help but is too small and its military too stretched to render significant aid.

    Today, US sent A-10 jets to Estonia to defend that democracy against dictatorial Putin.

    India needs allies, because it can't keep up with China by itself.

  • Shiva - 9 years ago

    It would have been most appropriate to allow selection of 2 countries, then both Russia and Israel would have got double the votes.

  • somdip - 9 years ago

    it depends with whom the war is going on , my view is no one will come in full support every body will be in doubt , moreover china may side with pakistan if an indo-pak war broke out. or if indo-china war broke out pakistan will surely join china if china does join an offensive against india it may start a world war

  • marshalmeet - 9 years ago

    India will be supported only by Israel not even by Russia.Russia Is a doubl faced country with all gay in it including the one top leader puti*

  • Chandrashekar - 9 years ago

    India is a more determined Country today, we are designing and producing our own Transport vehicles, Tanks, Fighter Planes, missiles, ICBMs, and in pipeline Advanced military Software, Hard wares,

    What we need is Sustained focus and time bound deployment and move ahead with our own Hardware and design and develop weapons systems which are contemporary and matching the technology which are posing threats.

    We should not forget the Ghazanies , Babars , Huns, Chinese, who were able to dent us because of our Backwardness in our Military Science in the Past.

    Might is Right - only Mantra and we should follow to sustain our Borders , Culture and our Children.

    R.Chandrashekar, Bangalore

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    (continued) ... against rising Chinese nationalism, which is an unpredictably dangerous wild card that appears poised to take whatever it wants in the Indo-Pacific.

    India's Russian weapons will always leave it at a disadvantage to China, because China will always get the very best the Russians have, they can afford much larger forces, and they are not hindered by democratic debate. Your pilots are brave and well-trained, but are the Chinese any less? India may be well enough defended today, but the Chinese military is growing rapidly.

    The small number of Pakistani F-16 Block 15 aircraft (a very old F-16 model) delivered to Pakistan are no threat to India either. There is an American saying that applied to Pakistan, "Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer." As Pakistan is a nuclear power, I would say it was in India's interest for the US to have kept Pakistan close to the US for as long as it did.

    However, the terrorist camps hosted in Pakistan led to numerous NATO airstrikes against Pakistani targets since 9/11. The US performed the raid to kill Bin Laden without Pakistan's permission. These are not actions NATO caarries out on a friendly nation.

    Lastly, you need to recheck your sources on VHF radars. No fighter-bomber is capable of carrying VHF radars due to size constrains. VHF is used for ground surveillance. Even the newest Eussian ground-based VHF radars do not have enough resolution for terminal guidance of AA missiles against stealth aircraft.

    AESA airborne radars have been used for many years on US aircraft, including advanced models of the F-15/F-16/FA-18, and the F-22 and F-35. Indian Sukhoi upgrades are for the Phasetron AESA, roughly comparable to the radar used in later F-15s and the F-35, but inferior to the F-22's AN/APG-77..

    Speaking of the F22, look at its features sometime. The F-22 is so far ahead of anything Russian, you'd be forgiven for believing it was from Mars.

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    Mssr.Manish Saraswat,

    I appreciate your kind words and thoughtful replies.

    It is interesting you seem a bit put off that someone would question India's defense wisdom, while you critique (with, respectfully, unreliable/outdated sources) the fighter choice of 14 other democracies including Israel and Japan. And when someone tells you a radar can detect the top secret F-35 at X miles, your suspicion should be aroused.

    Could it be that Israel is staking its future on the F-35 because it knows the facts of its performance? The F-35 is still a very highly classified aircraft, with only the most general information about its capabilities made public. Israel will probably become the largest operator of the F-35 outside the US.

    Why would Russia be so intent on trash-talking the F-35 if it's fighters could so easily defeat it? If it's so bad, wouldn't Russia want NATO to buy it? Yet the Russians are spending sizable sums trying to dissuade F-35 buyers, nations who might switch to French or UK weapons, but would never buy a Russian fighter.

    I think we agree India is not threatened by the F-35, as I doubt it would ever be operated by a country unfriendly to India.

    My original point is not that India did not choose the F-35. It is that India was not offered the F-35, which, to me, was a disappointment whether India wanted it or not. And the reason the US's top fighter-bomber was not offered to India is the sizable presence of Russian aviation specialists. Unlike the P-8 Neptune, it is more difficult to assure the security of fighters which of their nature operate in dispersed locations. I'm sure you agree that Russia would love to examine the US's most secret stealth technology (as the US would Russia's).

    Also, while I can't speak for the American government, I believe strongly the American people believe in India. Polls show Americans hold the Indian people in very high regard. We recognize Indian technological ability, but most off all, we see it is a vibrant democracy. The US and Indian people have much in common: we both fought for democracy, both inherited English, both have large diverse populations (though Indian size and diversity are much greater). We have Hollywood and Bollywood. We both have added mightily to world culture. Our common diversity gives us both strength but it is also a great challenge.

    America was saddled with being a bulwark against communist aggression after WW2. I dare say all of Europe would have been overrun by Stalin were it not for the US presence. Where would India be had the US retreated into isolation in the face of the Sino-Soviet alliance after WW2? People forget or underestimate the role the US played in keeping Stalinism and Maoism doing hat they said they would do: support world communist revolution.

    Being the only power able to stand up to Stalinism caused the US government to do crazy things, but on balance, the world is much more free today than it would have been had the US returned to isolationism after WW2.

    Then came 9/11, which was a price we paid for being a free nation that doesn't track every foreigner.. When the Taliban refused to kick bin Laden out, a US invasion was inevitable. Would India have done less? Putin threatened nuclear war over the Crimea. Putin's regime has threatened WW3 several times, so I assume Russia would have nuked somebody if planes had flown into the Kremlin.

    US policy may not always have been perfect, but the heart of the American people always has been. They supported the Vietnam War for many years because they genuinely felt it would save the South Vietnamese from communism. Same with Korea, except t here US policy prevailed.

    Is there a S Korean alive today that wishes the US had not fought the N Koreans/Chinese?

    As to India being non-aligned, I respectfully believe that to be unworthy of a great democracy like India. Imho, India should stand with its fellow democracies for their common defense aga

  • Manish Saraswat - 9 years ago

    Dear Jan Rodricks,

    First of all i must thank you as it really has been a long time since i have had so much fun and really appreciate you being in the spirit of a healthy debate.
    Now coming to the point, i do know what DAS is and am also aware that it is formidable, but, The US Air Force stealth fighter aircraft, the F-35, can be detected by Chinese and Russian radars, it has been revealed.

    An AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) radar, which emits separate radio waves on different frequencies, fitted onto Indian Sukhoi 30MKI and latest warships is the source of a new threat to the F-35. By rapidly changing frequencies, the radar is more difficult to fool. The system is apparently capable of locating a stealth aircraft within 220 miles. The F-35 is susceptible to detection by radars operating in the VHF bands of the spectrum. The fighter’s jamming is mostly confined to the X-band, in the sector covered by its APG-81 radar. These are not criticisms of the program but the result of choices by the customer, the Pentagon.

    To suggest that the F-35 is VHF-stealthy is like arguing that the sky is not blue—literally, because both involve the same phenomenon. The late-Victorian physicist Lord Rayleigh gave his name to the way that electromagnetic radiation is scattered by objects that are smaller than its wavelength. This applies to the particles in the air that scatter sunlight, and aircraft stabilizers and wingtips that are about the same meter-class size as VHF waves.
    Now if we take this information and consider the fact that Indian Su 30MKI is now armed with the air to air variant of the fastest cruise missile in the world, everyone would say that it is indeed a deadly combo. Now with the total number of hardpoints at 12 in comparison to F 35's 10 our Flanker can carry two Brahmos. Even if it misses once, it wont miss the second time. Plus F 35,s stealth is compromised the moment it carries its full payload since its internal bay has only 4 hardpoints, with 6 under the wings making it detectable to radars.
    As you said earlier that Israel wont buy a flawed machine, i guess i can say the very same for India specially when we are constantly threatened by an Expansionist China and a Terrorist Pakistan. While India and U.S will never engage each other but rest assured, India is capable of holding its own. While Pakistan has been using ultra modern Weapon platforms supplied by its ally in U.S.A, we have outgunned Pak using obsolete machinery and if we were able to do that with the crappy GNATs in 1965 and then with Hunters in 1971, then i guess we can certainly do it with the most modern and deadly 4.5+ gen Aircraft in the form of Flanker H. Pakistan had F-86 Sabres, Lockheed F-104 Starfighter, F-6s.
    Now in all this i forgot about the role of a 'Global Saviour' that U.S plays very effectively. Pakistan is a NATO ally of U.S, and continues to be so till date, while the U.S is aware of the fact that its the cradle of terrorism and Osama was found not more than a couple of miles away from a pak military base in Abbotabad and still it supplies pak with weapons and funds to buy weapons for its so called War On Terror. How is supplying deadly weapons to pakistan an act of promoting world peace when most of it is used against India and against U.S troops fighting the war on Terror right next door in Afghanistan? While i am not saying that Putins policies are ok with me but i am not entirely satisfied with U.S' either. That is why India is a Non Aligned Country. We appear close to Russia because while the rest of the world (NATO nations) were busy imposing sanctions on India due to India's maiden Nuclear test, Russia provided us with the equipment necessary to keep us safe. We now look to other suppliers too Israel and U.S too but we buy What We Really Need and if you say that Indian Defence forces , the fourth largest defence force in the world and the fourth most powerful too , doesnt know what it really requires and choos

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    Mssr..Manish Saraswat,

    Bottom line, to accept your anti-F35 argument, you have to believe that Israel Air Force is betting their nation's existence on a losing aircraft that can't defeat 30 year old Sukhois and Migs.

    Israel has plans to field up to 100 F-35s. They will be the first air force after the US to operate production aircraft.

    Why do you think Israel made such a decision?

    Your links are old arguments long rebutted that ignore entirely the F-35's advantages. Fact is the F-35 can pull a sustained 9g turn and 50deg alpha at low speed in full control.

    An F-35 pilot can see "thru" his aircraft to shoot at an enemy flying directly under or behind him.

    Do you not understand the close-in advantage this confers (assuming a Sukhoi could get close enough to an F-35, which is doubtful given his detection range is so short)

    Real combat Sukhoi's (and all other 4/4.5 aircraft) have heavily degraded performance by 6-8 missiles plus external tanks, all of which the F-35 carries internally where they have ZERO effect on airflow.

    The claims for IRST sensor range assume no clouds or dust. The F-35 will have shot down the Sukhoi before his IRST is in range.

    Like most F-35 critics, you completely ignore F-35 DAS system. Once the F-35 sensors spot you, the pilot will NEVER LOSE SIGHT of you, even if you fly under him or into the sun. He can shoot any aircraft close enough to be seen on radar or DAS sensor package.

    Again, do you understand DAS? Do you see what an advantage full spherical artificial vision gives to a fighter? All previous fighters back to WWI, in a dogfight the pilot hads to eyeball you to shoot. Not the F-35, The F-35 fuselage is effectively invisible to its pilot, who can see "thru" his own wings and fuselage, and empty his AIM-9X at ANY aircraft within the missile's range.

    If you don't understand DAS and don't believe in stealth's proven advantages (which both China and Russia are rushing to develop) then I expect you'll continue to see the F-35 as just another conventional aircraft that can't do a Cobra maneuver (which has no use outside airshows).

  • Manish Saraswat - 9 years ago

    Dear Jan Rodricks

    http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-designer-of-the-f-16-explains-why-the-f-35-is-such-1591828468

    https://youtu.be/KTF_a1DuIyE

    http://in.rbth.com/blogs/2014/10/12/why_the_f-35_is_a_sitting_duck_for_the_flankers_38959.html

    I thought the answer i will write will be too long..... so please follow up on the links i provided.

  • Indian - 9 years ago

    @sagar ,
    you talk like a stupid kid want to make some friends , u dont like muslims and u say israel is best friend , but u are mistaken , do you know how many muslims lives in israel in good condition , is that the situation in india , think about your country , and present prime minister modi is a political gay

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    Sorry to be so harsh about Tejas, but I'm not saying anything Indian experts themselves haven't voiced, Of course it will be useful against 3rd rate air forces, but cannon fodder against the Chinese.

    I work for no defense contractor, though I am a retired aerodynamics analyst on the General Dynamics F-16, so I do have some knowledge of the industry.

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    Mssr. I Love My India,

    You bring up Cold war history as if it had relevance to the Modern relationship between the West and India. Thankfully uour new PM has a clearer vision.

    It would be great if India were independent, but your air force shows that is not the case. The Tejas was obsolete the day it flew (except for the US-made F404 engine). All India's major combat aircraft are imported or licensed built.

    Those of you who want to continue hugging the coattails of the dictator Putin live in a dream world. Fortunately it sounds like the new Indian PM sees a close defense relationship with Russia as incompatible with democracy.

    Likewise those who think Japan will help you in a war. Japan can't by law, unless it chooses to work with the US in doing so. If you think Russia would help you against China, you're dreaming.

    The simple fact is, the only democracy capable of standing behind India with the massive material support it would need during a war is the USA. It's done so for other democratic nations like Israel and Great Britain during the Falklands (where the US supplied AWACS, advanced missiles, and even a spare aircraft carrier if needed).

    India can either choose to stand with its democratic friends, or continue to rely on Putin's criminal empire cum go government. History suggest standing with the democracies (not just the US) is the road to peace and prosperity for India.

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    Mssr. Manish Saraswat,

    Peace? Democratic allies of the US have enjoyed a Golden Age of peace since WW2, backed by the US military's willingness to defend them. From Australia to Japan to Denmark, not one of these nations has suffered an invasion of or war on their territory.

    Are you blaming US for fundamentalist jihadis cutting people's heads off, slaughtering entire communities of "infidels"? US invaded Afghanistan because it sheltered the planners of 9/11. What would India have done if Pakistan sheltered terrorists that crashed 767s into two major Indian cities? What if it had been Moscow? Putin's regime regularly threatens nuclear attack, so I trust he would have nuked Afghanistan.

    Post WWII history shows the US stands solidly by democratic allies, that Russia has captive nations and buyers but not friends, and that China's neighbors fear for their territory.

    On aircraft. With respect, the Pacific Vision August 2008 wargame you use to criticize the F-35 did not even address air-to-air combat effectiveness. The "sources" in the Russian video link you posted are lying. Pacific Vision was a "table-top" evaluation of nothing more than basing and force-structure vulnerabilities. It did not include air-to-air combat exercises or any comparisons of different aircraft.

    The best proof of the F-35 are its list of buyers, which include most of the major democratic air forces. Israel is one of the most recent purchasers, as is Japan. These nations along with the USAF, USN, USMC, as well as UK's RAF and RN, are so confident in the F-35 that they're re-equipping their entire tactical air force with the aircraft. Maybe they know something you do not, since the F-35 is still highly classified.

    Ever heard of the F-35s revolutionary Distributed Aperture System (DAS)? Can a Sukhoi pilot see "thru' the floor of his aircraft? Can he see aircraft below his wing or engine? An F-35 pilot can. F-35 DAS sensors give the pilot a full spherical view around his aircraft using his helmet-mounted visual display. It allows missile launches at opponents that other pilots can't even see. This why the F-35 didn't need a bubble canopy, or to employ pilot-sapping violent maneuvers to monitor his massive blind spots (Su-30s have very poor downward visibility).

    The F-35 pilot can "see" all around, as though he were seated in a clear bubble. Critics of the F-35 try to bring it down to the leel of 4.5gen aircraft, when it is almost a 5.5gen aircraft, employing unprecedented sensor and datalink technologies. Nothing like it has ever existed in a production aircraft. Combine that with the best stealth since the F-22, and you have an aircraft that won't have to run. It will 'see/shoot first', kill its opponents, then re-arm and do it again and again.

    The stealth damages issues you mention are long since fixedf, and relate to 1st generation F-117's coating technology. The F-35's 4th gen. stealth uses durable composite surfaces for stealth, not fragile coatings.

    The fact is, stealth is proven technology against airborne radar. F-35 is 4th generation US stealth aircraft, so clearly the Pentagon values it enormously. Infrared detection alternatives are spotty at best, and can't be used to BVR targeting

    The American fighter industry has produced the dominate airborne weapons since WWII, from the F-86s 10:1 kill ration, to the F-15s 100:1 (or better) Israel would not be buying an airplane to defend its existence unless they were absolutely convinced of its superiority to Soviet and Chinese designs. Maybe the Israeli Air Force knows something about the F-35 that you don't.

    India will never have to fight the F-35. If India goes to war against a modern air force, it will be Chine with its Chinese and Russian technology. The IAF will be outnumbered and fighting against equal and superior superior aircraft, including China's own stealth. The only current source for India for superior aircraft to China's is Eurofighter T

  • I love my india - 9 years ago

    Rodrick,you believe our military is weak and need AMERICAN help but thanks for the offer.Good Bye.If you look into the history of India then in 1965 & 1971 Nato supported Pak equipped with US weapons were defeated badly even though it was the aftermath of 1962 China war.Then when India created atom bomb then they were sanctioned and when Pak did so they were 'praised'.Actually US is trying to make India ally just to push back China.They know that if an India with inferior technology could defeat Nato supported pak during 1971 & 1965 and repulse Chinese invasion then a modern India can do it much more easily.Its the russians who helped us during those days and they would do so(ateast indirectly)and Japan too But i guarantee never US.Besides we are now receiving orders of weapons from other countries of weapons so we are now quite independant.

  • Souvil - 9 years ago

    Dear Rodricks,it seems that you belong to a salesman from some American weapon company,flattering India to buy weapons from them.Besides it may be seen that Tejas is inferior as an aircraft but we are not deveoping it for acting as an heavy air superiority craft.Its for a light aircraft.Can you send F 35 to bomb enemy at an altitude of 4000+ Meter.No.In that point of view Tejas is superior as the Kargil war showed its imporyanve

  • Manish Saraswat - 9 years ago

    Dear Jan Rodricks,
    India is the fourth largest and powerful defense force in the world and it is not a question of who would help India in an event such as an all out war against China, rather its a question of whether India needs any help at all. While US has been actively involved in wars all over the world ever since the end of World War 2, it has hardly made any substantial impact on world peace. Military equipment is useless if you dont do your homework against the enemy being engaged. Remember Somalia and Vietnam. Lets not go back too far in time , and consider the fairly recent expedition of US armed forces against Iraq and Afghanistan. While Saddam and Osama may have been terminated, terrorism is still rampant in these countries. Moreover you think that American F 35 are a must for Indian Air Force to be truely formidable, you must do a full and thorough research on their capbilities. F 35 is a good bird but it is relatively slow, bulky and clumsy. In short it Cant Run, Cant Turn and Cant Climb. Indian Air Force in its arsenal has the best 4.5 gen aircraft in the form of Russian Indian Sukhoi 30 MKI which is at Par with F 35 at almost every level. Moreover you may think that F 35 has an edge over Indian Su 30 MKI, there is no such thing as Absolute Stealth. Its a gimmick and even a single scratch in the Radar Absorbent painted structure can compromise its stealth. F 35 thus needs heavy and consistent maintenance in comparison to Su 30 MKI which is Faster, More Agile and a more Robust aircraft than F 35. If you havent noticed, the F 35 project has been scrapped by Lockheed Martin due to its Heavy manufacturing costs and back breaking maintenance costs. Hence it is completely useless in todays scenario. to support my argument i am porting a link too. Do have a look.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27qdB1D0s9M

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    If India does not have defense that can deter and defeat China, then India must learn to obey China.

    Indigenous production of technology like advanced aircraft will not be practical for India for many years yet. Tejas was obsolete on its first flight. Second rate fighter aircraft like Tejas are useless in modern war. Britain, itself an aviation superpower, is US partner in F-35 and will use F-35 as the core of RAF and Royal Navy.

    History shows US stands by democracies attacked by dictatorship. During Falklands War, democratic UK asked US for loan of aircraft carrier if a British carrier was sunk. America prepared USS Iwo Jima for Royal Navy use, but UK carriers survived. During Israel's 1973 war, US Operation Nickel Grass airlifted 44 million lbs. of war material to Israel.

    Democratic NATO has had peace for 70 years.

    Democratic India's should take advantage of technology available only from its democratic friends. Indian military weakness is bigest threat to Indian peace and prosperity.

  • Patriotic Indian - 9 years ago

    India dont want to go to war with any country , India is peaceful country but big military because just want to protect its border and secure Indian Citizens .. many people written lot of stupid things ,, ??? India must stop rely on west or east for arms , and become indigenous ..

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    US and NATO have always feared Russian spying in India. That's why no F-35 offer from USA. India needs to end its defense reliance on Putin's Russia. Then US would offer India same weapons as UK or Japan.

    Would USA help India? Look how USA help Israel in 1972, flying in cargo aircraft after cargo aircraft of reinforcements. South Korea in 1950's. Berin AIrlift. USA defended Europe from Stalin and Putin for 70 years. Whatever else they may do, Americans always rise to defend other democratic peoples.

    America is morally and materially the only nation that would make a difference in the defense of India.

  • sagar - 9 years ago

    rus is not help india against china,while israel nd america is always there for india....

  • Jan Rodricks - 9 years ago

    Why would American sell India the F-35 when MiG and Sukhoi technicians will be working right next door? No other country who buys weapons from Russia is offered western cutting edge systems, either,

    India has developed into one of the world's great democracies. It is time to do what all other democracies do, and that is to rely on each other for defense. The links to Russia are a relic of days gone by. India can get equal or better systems from the democracies, and be more sure of support should a conflict arise.

    Finally, I was shicked by the outcome of this poll. Israel would help where it could, but Israel is too small to be of real assistance. Russia would give up India for China in a heartbeat. It is only the democracies that offer the true, long-term commitments like NATO members enjoy.

    But that will not happen so long as the West perceives Russia to be India's best defense friend.

  • sagar - 9 years ago

    Israel will support us, because india is connected through social economical and religious.Israel is the best friend of india.

  • Indian - 9 years ago

    We should strengthen the military by increasing numbers and quality of weapons.So then India doesn't need any type of help or support from any country , not even from russia or israel.One more thing nepal and bhutan should be a part of india otherwise china can woo them very easily, like they did with pakistan by making promise of investing $45 billion. Otherwise it will be late for india and india will lose their neighbours.

  • Samy - 9 years ago

    None other than Israel will support us. Russia won't support us unless united states joins the other side.Due to its own interests It would never back us in any conflict against CHINA and if US provides us with even logistical suppport, it will swiftly take china's side...

  • Samy - 9 years ago

    None other than Israel will support us. Russia won't support us unless united states joins the other side.Due to its own interests It would never back us in any conflict against CHINA and if US provides us with even logistical suppport, it will swiftly take china's side...

  • Samy - 9 years ago

    None other than Israel will support us. Russia won't support us unless united states joins the other side.Due to its own interests It would never back us in any conflict against CHINA and if US provides us with even logistical suppport, it will swiftly take china's side...

  • Samy - 9 years ago

    None other than Israel will support us. Russia won't support us unless united states joins the other side.Due to its own interests It would never back us in any conflict against CHINA and if US provides us with even logistical suppport, it will swiftly take china's side...

  • Jawad - 9 years ago

    We should bear in mind in international relations no one is your permanent enemy or friend what is permanent is your national interest

  • Dr. Bijay Jha - 9 years ago

    In case of a war, India will get compulsory support from France, Germany, Israel, Russia, England, Iran, Japan, England just because it is a big economy, a big market. No country would risk losing India in the post war scenario.

  • shankar - 9 years ago

    Dear frnds,
    Russia supplies weapons to china and it is going to conduct drills with pakistan latestely..they were our frnds but they have always delayec us supply of weapons..during kargil wars and CURRENTLY 70 % WEAPONS IMPORT ARE FROM RUSSIA........
    USA.......ALWAYS DENIED US WITH OPPURTUNITIES AND TECHNOLOGIES ===SAME GOES TRUE WITH ENTIRE NATO BLOCK.....
    USA AND NATO ARE SUPPLYING WEAPONS TO PAKISTAN.....BUT DENY INDIA OF THE HIGH QUALITY .....
    ISRAEL IS SMALL COUNTRY WHICH IS STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP ITSELF .......AGAINST ARABS............FOR A BIG COUNTRY LIKE US NO NEED TO BE DEPEND ON A SMALL NATION......
    SO NOBODY WILL SUPPORT US IN CASE OF MAJOR CRISIS.........
    THE SOONER INDIA INDEGENEOUSLY USE 100 % HOME MADE DEFENCE INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOME MADE WEAPONS 100%......
    ATLEAST WITHIN NEXT 10 YEARS ........

  • Vachan - 9 years ago

    The way which the Russia is behaving with India is morally low now bexause of shifting defense deals with usa
    So Russia will no more support us and there will be no repeat of 1972 where Russia sent a nuclear submarine group against usa carrier group in bay if Bengal ..

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