Rick was treaded like shit all his life.So if he is doing it back it's becauce he was treated like that.He fell in love with Myra when he first saw her.They got alone realy well.Then carolin came and she put a road block up.And Myra back off.This is a soap but in real life if you fell in love with someone and found out they born girl/boy would you still love them?Or if it was your child would you hate them for it for felling that they are not in the right body?I don't know how this is going to turn out.But I wish he would get together with her. All of us need to be excepted for who we are.
Barbara Manning - 9 years ago
When Rick realized he hadn't been "Honest" with Maya; when he first met her, he could relate with how "who a person is" plays a huge role in how others treat you or what they expect of you. Jr. BELL shouldn't win an award for his lousy writing .....but the storyline in itself and with it being greatly portrayed by these actors and actresses, should.
Amy Compton - 9 years ago
Rick has changed for the worst over the years.Before Bell decided to make Rick except Maya's transgender,he should have had Rick spit crap out his mouth over and over like a broken record,about honesty.Further more Rick & Maya have been lowlife jerks to others at FC,why reward them for that.Eric should be ashamed of his son,for treating others the way he has
Cathy - 9 years ago
i love Rick I hope he stay's with Myra In today world this could happen to any of us .
Melissa - 9 years ago
I don't believe Maya would have ever told Rick the truth about her "medical condition." The only reason she did was because she knew if she didn't, someone else would. Too many people were starting to find out the secret. She didn't decide to tell him because he finally proposed (if that were the true case, she would have told Carter when he proposed). She was forced into a corner and had no other choice, if SHE wanted to be the one to tell him herself. Rick's reaction is completely unbelievable. For goodness sake, he shot a gun at Caroline and Ridge for kissing. No one changes that fast. Every time Rick is faced with some life altering revelation, he flips out and does something stupid. This has been his character since he started the show. So yes, to have him now just unconditionally accept this news without any reaction at all, is not true to form.
Anna - 9 years ago
My first comment didn't fit so here's the rest,
Rick still wanted Taylor, despite the Ridge-factor having such an heavy impact on that situation.
To Rick's disappointment Taylor didn't change her mind. The next thing that happened, was Rick shouting and attacking Ridge on the FC roof, which resulted in Rick falling of the roof. It was the kick off of months with mean, mental-Rick, wanting to get revenge on Ridge, not Taylor. Rick made himself pretty unlikeable among the staff and the family then too...
So heres the deal:
Caroline and Taylor have one thing in common in this, doing something wrong, with Ridge being involved in one way or the other.
Caroline lied, and was shuned by Rick at once and he went mental on both Caroline and Ridge.
Taylor told Rick the truth, that she still loved Ridge and had kissed him. She was not shuned by Rick. Instead Rick told Taylor he loved her and still wanted them to get married. Rick went mental on Ridge only. Had Taylor lied, and Rick found out later, she would have been in the same situation as Caroline.
Taylor and Maya have three things in common, disclosing something thats painful for Rick to hear, getting a declaration of love with instant forgivness attached and a wish from Rick to continue the relationship. All in the same scene. Taylor chose to not continue her relationship with Rick, but Maya does want the relationship.
Taylor did something wrong that carried a huge Ridge-factor, but she didn't lie.
2 strikes, Instant Rick forgivness.
Maya did lie about something big, but hadn't done anything wrong and carried no Ridge-factor.
2 strikes, Instant Rick forgiveness (2 strikes because of magnitude of the secret)
Caroline did something wrong, with big Ridge-factor involved AND lied about it.
3 strikes and you're out, No instant Rick forgivness.
Anna - 9 years ago
They didn't change Rick's character and I'll explain why, after I've adressed the differences between Maya and Caroline's secrets and why Rick doesn't treat them the same.
It's simple really. It's about what the lie covered up, why the lie existed in the first place. Caroline's lie was about something she did wrong, something she knew was wrong but did anyway. Maya secret wasn't about something she did wrong.
Caroline:
She did something unforgivable, with Ridge of all people, that affected Rick directly, WHILE they were together. Caroline didn't want to come clean, because she knew her actions were in the wrong. That the consequenses would be severe, since the Ridge-factor was involved. So she didn't tell Rick about it. Caroline did something hurtful that she, at least in the back of her mind, KNEW was wrong and was considered to be the maximum taboo for Rick. She lied about it and was never going to tell him. He found out from someone else, which is the worst way a lie can come out.
(Add to that, Caroline wasn't entirely supportive of her husband getting the CEO job either, she favored Ridge.)
Everything involving the Ridge-factor is and have always been High Treason in Rick's book. EVERYBODY is painfully aware of that fact, since like forever. That's why Rick is flipping out at Caroline.
Maya:
She kept a secret about something that happened long BEFORE she met Rick. She was the only one involved, and it just affected her. She didn't hurt anyone else by her actions at the time, which was going through with her transition. Most importantly her action, transitioning, wasn't hurtful to Rick WHEN she did it. It also didn't involve the Ridge-factor like in Caroline's case. What Maya did wrong, was chosing to not tell Rick about her secret at the begining. It was completly wrong. But SHE was still the one who ended up telling him.
The "while", "before", "what was lied about”, "why it felt neccessary to lie”, the "Ridge-factor", the "reason for lying at all”, the "when did the act to lie about occur?", the "what impact did the actions have on Rick when they occured", and the "who told", is what it's all about for Rick. That is why Rick treats both situations differently.
Now back to the subject, of Rick getting a personality makeover or not. There is NO character change going on. This fits really well with Ricks personality way back, when Rick had his last HUGE flip out 6 or 7 years ago, when Ridge facilitated Taylor breaking off her engagement with Rick.
Comparing "Ridge kissed Caroline"-flip out and "Ridge facilitated break up with Taylor"-flip out, with the "insta forgivness" can seem a bit out there, but really it's not. There are many similarities with Rick's personality and behaviour both then and now. Ridge is the common factor and Taylor is a mix of Caroline/Maya's behaviour.
When Ridge facilitated the destruction of Taylor and Rick's engagement, this happened: Taylor had an encounter with Ridge, whom was in a commited relationship with Brooke at the time and he didn't plan to change that fact. Ridge tried, once again, to convince Taylor to not marry Rick, because Ridge didn't like the relationship. Taylor ended up kissing Ridge.
Taylor then realized she still loved Ridge too much, to be able to marry Rick with a good conciense, even though Ridge was going to stay with Brooke. The very next time Taylor saw Rick she was completly honest. She told Rick right away that she couldn't marry him, because she still loved Ridge. She also told Rick about the kiss. Did Rick EVER flip out at Taylor, like he did with Caroline?
No, Rick did NOT flip out on Taylor right then and there, (and not later as well), despite the Ridge-factor involvment. Because Taylor didn't lie to him about anything. During the break up scene, Rick tried to talk some sense into Taylor. He told her he loved her anyway and still wanted to marry her, even after her revelation. Rick still wanted Taylor, despite the Ridge-factor ha
Ella Jennings - 9 years ago
I will stop watching if Rick accepts Maya. I love the show but Rick is a real jerk
Karen - 9 years ago
B & B must think that we are all stupid to think we could or would accept that Rick can be ok with this. For months all we heard out of his mouth is how every woman in his life has lied to him, blah, blah, blah.....and then Maya/Myron drops a bomb like this and he so passively accepts it. Please!!! Don't know about California, but most other places, guys would have a real hard time being deceived this way. Do they realize the viewers they are losing????
Rick was treaded like shit all his life.So if he is doing it back it's becauce he was treated like that.He fell in love with Myra when he first saw her.They got alone realy well.Then carolin came and she put a road block up.And Myra back off.This is a soap but in real life if you fell in love with someone and found out they born girl/boy would you still love them?Or if it was your child would you hate them for it for felling that they are not in the right body?I don't know how this is going to turn out.But I wish he would get together with her. All of us need to be excepted for who we are.
When Rick realized he hadn't been "Honest" with Maya; when he first met her, he could relate with how "who a person is" plays a huge role in how others treat you or what they expect of you. Jr. BELL shouldn't win an award for his lousy writing .....but the storyline in itself and with it being greatly portrayed by these actors and actresses, should.
Rick has changed for the worst over the years.Before Bell decided to make Rick except Maya's transgender,he should have had Rick spit crap out his mouth over and over like a broken record,about honesty.Further more Rick & Maya have been lowlife jerks to others at FC,why reward them for that.Eric should be ashamed of his son,for treating others the way he has
i love Rick I hope he stay's with Myra In today world this could happen to any of us .
I don't believe Maya would have ever told Rick the truth about her "medical condition." The only reason she did was because she knew if she didn't, someone else would. Too many people were starting to find out the secret. She didn't decide to tell him because he finally proposed (if that were the true case, she would have told Carter when he proposed). She was forced into a corner and had no other choice, if SHE wanted to be the one to tell him herself. Rick's reaction is completely unbelievable. For goodness sake, he shot a gun at Caroline and Ridge for kissing. No one changes that fast. Every time Rick is faced with some life altering revelation, he flips out and does something stupid. This has been his character since he started the show. So yes, to have him now just unconditionally accept this news without any reaction at all, is not true to form.
My first comment didn't fit so here's the rest,
Rick still wanted Taylor, despite the Ridge-factor having such an heavy impact on that situation.
To Rick's disappointment Taylor didn't change her mind. The next thing that happened, was Rick shouting and attacking Ridge on the FC roof, which resulted in Rick falling of the roof. It was the kick off of months with mean, mental-Rick, wanting to get revenge on Ridge, not Taylor. Rick made himself pretty unlikeable among the staff and the family then too...
So heres the deal:
Caroline and Taylor have one thing in common in this, doing something wrong, with Ridge being involved in one way or the other.
Caroline lied, and was shuned by Rick at once and he went mental on both Caroline and Ridge.
Taylor told Rick the truth, that she still loved Ridge and had kissed him. She was not shuned by Rick. Instead Rick told Taylor he loved her and still wanted them to get married. Rick went mental on Ridge only. Had Taylor lied, and Rick found out later, she would have been in the same situation as Caroline.
Taylor and Maya have three things in common, disclosing something thats painful for Rick to hear, getting a declaration of love with instant forgivness attached and a wish from Rick to continue the relationship. All in the same scene. Taylor chose to not continue her relationship with Rick, but Maya does want the relationship.
Taylor did something wrong that carried a huge Ridge-factor, but she didn't lie.
2 strikes, Instant Rick forgivness.
Maya did lie about something big, but hadn't done anything wrong and carried no Ridge-factor.
2 strikes, Instant Rick forgiveness (2 strikes because of magnitude of the secret)
Caroline did something wrong, with big Ridge-factor involved AND lied about it.
3 strikes and you're out, No instant Rick forgivness.
They didn't change Rick's character and I'll explain why, after I've adressed the differences between Maya and Caroline's secrets and why Rick doesn't treat them the same.
It's simple really. It's about what the lie covered up, why the lie existed in the first place. Caroline's lie was about something she did wrong, something she knew was wrong but did anyway. Maya secret wasn't about something she did wrong.
Caroline:
She did something unforgivable, with Ridge of all people, that affected Rick directly, WHILE they were together. Caroline didn't want to come clean, because she knew her actions were in the wrong. That the consequenses would be severe, since the Ridge-factor was involved. So she didn't tell Rick about it. Caroline did something hurtful that she, at least in the back of her mind, KNEW was wrong and was considered to be the maximum taboo for Rick. She lied about it and was never going to tell him. He found out from someone else, which is the worst way a lie can come out.
(Add to that, Caroline wasn't entirely supportive of her husband getting the CEO job either, she favored Ridge.)
Everything involving the Ridge-factor is and have always been High Treason in Rick's book. EVERYBODY is painfully aware of that fact, since like forever. That's why Rick is flipping out at Caroline.
Maya:
She kept a secret about something that happened long BEFORE she met Rick. She was the only one involved, and it just affected her. She didn't hurt anyone else by her actions at the time, which was going through with her transition. Most importantly her action, transitioning, wasn't hurtful to Rick WHEN she did it. It also didn't involve the Ridge-factor like in Caroline's case. What Maya did wrong, was chosing to not tell Rick about her secret at the begining. It was completly wrong. But SHE was still the one who ended up telling him.
The "while", "before", "what was lied about”, "why it felt neccessary to lie”, the "Ridge-factor", the "reason for lying at all”, the "when did the act to lie about occur?", the "what impact did the actions have on Rick when they occured", and the "who told", is what it's all about for Rick. That is why Rick treats both situations differently.
Now back to the subject, of Rick getting a personality makeover or not. There is NO character change going on. This fits really well with Ricks personality way back, when Rick had his last HUGE flip out 6 or 7 years ago, when Ridge facilitated Taylor breaking off her engagement with Rick.
Comparing "Ridge kissed Caroline"-flip out and "Ridge facilitated break up with Taylor"-flip out, with the "insta forgivness" can seem a bit out there, but really it's not. There are many similarities with Rick's personality and behaviour both then and now. Ridge is the common factor and Taylor is a mix of Caroline/Maya's behaviour.
When Ridge facilitated the destruction of Taylor and Rick's engagement, this happened: Taylor had an encounter with Ridge, whom was in a commited relationship with Brooke at the time and he didn't plan to change that fact. Ridge tried, once again, to convince Taylor to not marry Rick, because Ridge didn't like the relationship. Taylor ended up kissing Ridge.
Taylor then realized she still loved Ridge too much, to be able to marry Rick with a good conciense, even though Ridge was going to stay with Brooke. The very next time Taylor saw Rick she was completly honest. She told Rick right away that she couldn't marry him, because she still loved Ridge. She also told Rick about the kiss. Did Rick EVER flip out at Taylor, like he did with Caroline?
No, Rick did NOT flip out on Taylor right then and there, (and not later as well), despite the Ridge-factor involvment. Because Taylor didn't lie to him about anything. During the break up scene, Rick tried to talk some sense into Taylor. He told her he loved her anyway and still wanted to marry her, even after her revelation. Rick still wanted Taylor, despite the Ridge-factor ha
I will stop watching if Rick accepts Maya. I love the show but Rick is a real jerk
B & B must think that we are all stupid to think we could or would accept that Rick can be ok with this. For months all we heard out of his mouth is how every woman in his life has lied to him, blah, blah, blah.....and then Maya/Myron drops a bomb like this and he so passively accepts it. Please!!! Don't know about California, but most other places, guys would have a real hard time being deceived this way. Do they realize the viewers they are losing????