I don't understand why everyone is trying to come up with all these different equations. The company I am lease to charge 60 bucks an hour. 1st two hours are free. If shipper or consignee can't complete job than they are charged the 1st two hrs plus any additional hrs until job is complete. Example: I just completed a load that paid me 2359.60 on 1258 miles (that's round trip). When I pick up load I had to wait 4 hrs and 2 minutes. It cost them additional 240. So now you have 2359.60 plus the 240.=2599.60. Not bad for the round trip miles. I say leave government out of the figuring the amount. They should just mandate law for it and make the minimum amount 60. Per hr. That's it. Shop close. Just imagine going to a shipper/consignee and see all those trucks sitting around. $$$$.Our time is money. Bet you than things a start moving pretty quick.
Greg Webb - 9 years ago
Why does everyone think they need some mathematical formula to determine what their time is worth? My opinion is 50 to 60 dollars an hour, That is just based on a 10 hour day, and the thought that if I cannot make 500 or 600 dollars a day I will not survive in this business. I'll give you 2 hours free because that's just common courtesy, but if you can't get it done in that length of time I charge for those 2 hours, plus any additional time. Also if you only use only up 15 or 20 minutes of an hour , you pay for the whole hour(you can't buy half of a coke!). This way if I sit all day, at least I made a days pay.
'NICK' - 9 years ago
Hourly rate based on the total cost of the Tractor/trailer being idle plus an hourly rate for the driver(s). This rate would start 15 mins after the check in time at the gate. In OTR WE SHOULD ALL BE DOING DROP & HOOK 99.99 % of the time!!!
We have to start making the shippers accountable for their BS!
We are called professionals but are treated like dirt.
It's time we raise hell about it and keep the pressure on Til a positive change occurs!!!
Ted mckinney - 9 years ago
When ur at shipper or reciver more then hr then detention time should be paid. The pay should be based on equipment and drivers time. It should start a 100.00 a hr. They can't rent a truck and driver for that. It taking revenew from the driver and the truck.
Charles Bolin - 9 years ago
It should be based on how long I have not been free to leave, IE if I arrive early and they tell me to wait on site and they will load me as soon as they can, if I sit on site for more than 2 hours I should get paid because my clock is burning, if they tell me "no come back at my appointment time then no detention, if I arrive on time then I should get detention if: they dont have a dock for me within 15min, they dont start loading me within 15 min of backing into the dock, they stop loading me for any Non life threatening emergency (break time, lunch time, out of product ect...), they take longer than 45 min to load my trailer, or it takes them longer than 5 min to get me the bills of laiding when they are done, (the loader knows what is going in the trailer, can carry seals, and can look at his watch to right the date and time when he is done, he should be more than capable of signing off on the bills, handing them to me and sending me on my way we he is done, he should literally have all copies in his hand while loading me)
Brice Ehrich - 9 years ago
A hourly rate high enough to motivate shippers and resevers to get you loaded and unloaded also if it takes longer then the 2 hours you should also get pade for them example if you are there 2 1/2. Hours you got pade for the 1/2 pluse the 2 you have been waiting
I don't understand why everyone is trying to come up with all these different equations. The company I am lease to charge 60 bucks an hour. 1st two hours are free. If shipper or consignee can't complete job than they are charged the 1st two hrs plus any additional hrs until job is complete. Example: I just completed a load that paid me 2359.60 on 1258 miles (that's round trip). When I pick up load I had to wait 4 hrs and 2 minutes. It cost them additional 240. So now you have 2359.60 plus the 240.=2599.60. Not bad for the round trip miles. I say leave government out of the figuring the amount. They should just mandate law for it and make the minimum amount 60. Per hr. That's it. Shop close. Just imagine going to a shipper/consignee and see all those trucks sitting around. $$$$.Our time is money. Bet you than things a start moving pretty quick.
Why does everyone think they need some mathematical formula to determine what their time is worth? My opinion is 50 to 60 dollars an hour, That is just based on a 10 hour day, and the thought that if I cannot make 500 or 600 dollars a day I will not survive in this business. I'll give you 2 hours free because that's just common courtesy, but if you can't get it done in that length of time I charge for those 2 hours, plus any additional time. Also if you only use only up 15 or 20 minutes of an hour , you pay for the whole hour(you can't buy half of a coke!). This way if I sit all day, at least I made a days pay.
Hourly rate based on the total cost of the Tractor/trailer being idle plus an hourly rate for the driver(s). This rate would start 15 mins after the check in time at the gate. In OTR WE SHOULD ALL BE DOING DROP & HOOK 99.99 % of the time!!!
We have to start making the shippers accountable for their BS!
We are called professionals but are treated like dirt.
It's time we raise hell about it and keep the pressure on Til a positive change occurs!!!
When ur at shipper or reciver more then hr then detention time should be paid. The pay should be based on equipment and drivers time. It should start a 100.00 a hr. They can't rent a truck and driver for that. It taking revenew from the driver and the truck.
It should be based on how long I have not been free to leave, IE if I arrive early and they tell me to wait on site and they will load me as soon as they can, if I sit on site for more than 2 hours I should get paid because my clock is burning, if they tell me "no come back at my appointment time then no detention, if I arrive on time then I should get detention if: they dont have a dock for me within 15min, they dont start loading me within 15 min of backing into the dock, they stop loading me for any Non life threatening emergency (break time, lunch time, out of product ect...), they take longer than 45 min to load my trailer, or it takes them longer than 5 min to get me the bills of laiding when they are done, (the loader knows what is going in the trailer, can carry seals, and can look at his watch to right the date and time when he is done, he should be more than capable of signing off on the bills, handing them to me and sending me on my way we he is done, he should literally have all copies in his hand while loading me)
A hourly rate high enough to motivate shippers and resevers to get you loaded and unloaded also if it takes longer then the 2 hours you should also get pade for them example if you are there 2 1/2. Hours you got pade for the 1/2 pluse the 2 you have been waiting