Over 10,000 People came to NB Forest funeral. In 1877..That was a huge amount of people to have to get there in hard circumstances on Horseback and Buggies it's almost unthinkable.
No the people now today will never understand because they don't care about the real history they just live for the moment, with their little electronic devices copying and pasting lies. You are only hurting yourself and the Genetarations to come..all you haters, haters of our beloved Forrest and our Confederacy.
Robert Hodnett - 7 years ago
The very people trying to make this into a racist thing is the very ones who are racist themselves. I have been told by African Americans that their are many on their side are racists but won't admit to it.How would they feel if everyone started talking down Martin Luther King statues?To me it seems this is a way to divide our country by some very evil people.Abraham.Lincolin was a slave owner but knew a House Divided Will Not Stand.Apprently we haven't learned from our past mistakes.We are in the end times for GODS RETURN SO U BETTER GET WRIGHT WITH HIM ????
Sharon - 7 years ago
Sheryl Standley where did you get your information from. It is unbelievable what some people chose to believe. The UDC did not nor has ever met with the KKK. They are not and never will be a white supremacist organization any more than the DAR or Daughters of 1812, or Colonial Dames. The UDC works with Veterans of all wars, regardless of color at VA Hospitals, cleans up abandoned cemeteries, writes history books and preserves historical documents, diaries and other historical documents.
Detta - 7 years ago
This poll shines a light on how many racists still thrive in Tennessee. We erect statues to our heroes, not the villains. This KKK founder is not an American hero. He was an American traitor, who took up arms against the USA. Trying to rewrite history serves no one. The Cicl,War was absolutely about slavery. If you want to say it was about States Rights, okay, the "right" they were fighting for was to keep slaves. How these people can call themselves Christians is beyond me. Jesus weeps.
Rob - 7 years ago
Bye the way if people want to do away with American history then take down the Martin Luther King crap
Rob - 7 years ago
People don't want to look back and see that a black man sold slaved TO BLACK PEOPLE LEAVE OUR HISTORY ALONE STUPID JERKS
Tom - 7 years ago
Brian,
You are absolutely correct. People point out that Thomas Jefferson owned slaves. True, an inheritance from his father, but what could he do? He could not free them because that was illegal in the state of Virginia at that time. All, including Jefferson, would have been arrested and the slaves resold on the slave auction blocks to, perhaps, a cruel slave trader. He could not take them to free states because again all would have been arrested, the slaves would have been resold on a slavery auction block, perhaps to cruel slave traders and families split up to never see each other again. Jefferson did the only thing he could do, keep them as slaves but let them work as servants. One of the slaves, a young man traveled with him around the world, more like a brother than a slave and, of course, we know the story of Sally Hemmings! A very special friend!!!
Sheryl Standley - 7 years ago
Wayne, no one told me anything. I researched Forrest myself. Lots of slaves had to serve their masters in the Civil War. The information I wrote is part of Forrest' history. They are facts...easily researched facts. No amount of whitewashing can change those facts about Nathan Bedford Forrest nor his grandson. Educate yourself.
Wayne Willingham - 7 years ago
Sheryl Standley, please learn some real history. General Forrest personal guards were men of color even his personal chaplain was a black pastor. Go to the library of Congress and learn some real true history . Don't just take what some leftists has told you. That's what's wrong with our Republic today.
Sheryl Standley - 7 years ago
The Daughters of the Confederacy worked with the KKK to put these statues up. This bust was put up in the seventies in a white supremacist response to Civil Rights. Nathan Bedford Forrest raised such a hate filled, racist family that his grandson was the KKK Grand Dragon who spread the KKK outside the south and worked with the Daughters of the Confederacy to start putting up these monuments to white supremacy. Nathan Bedford Forrest was the KKK Grand Wizard who organized the KKK. They terrorized people of color. He organized one of first domestic terrorist organizations. During the war, he was responsible for insisting upon slaughtering prisoners of war if they were people of color. It was such a slaughter, it sickened his own soldiers. He made his million dollars by being a slave trader. A SLAVE TRADER! Goodie for him that he had a change of heart the last five years of his life. He did not change his family's heart, though. Forrest and his family have caused irreparable harm to our country. He should not be put upon a pedestal and honored. White supremacy should not be put upon a pedestal and honored. What a horrible thing to honor.
Gene Driggers - 7 years ago
My ancestors fought in every war... Even the Civil War... And soldiers from every war are honorable... And should be honored as such statues and the like... Therefore this statue should not be moved... leave history alone !!!
Michael Thomassie - 7 years ago
Removing a statue or monument that has been up for over 100 years will not make hate-filled people happy, it will only make peaceful people hate.
David - 7 years ago
Remove Haslem first, then stop using tax payers money to pay for Martin Luther King museum in Memphis.
John Fry - 7 years ago
The belief that hiding history in a closet will cure the problem is insane. History can not be changed, but it can be used to teach and prevent future Injustices. Until we as a society learn to imbrace the past we can never overcome the struggles of it's future.
Mary upton - 7 years ago
I just listened to tv stating yes 77% NO 22% but YES is 14% & NO 86% above on this poll so why is it reversed what the MEDIA was saying ???? ARE THEY LIEING or just reversed numbers which ever it STINKS. Can not believe MEDIA once again. Statues are a symbol of people's history both good & bad but it SHOULD NOT be change to please one group but stay where it was placed..DO BLACK people not realize their own people SOLD THEM and if they had not been bought & brought here they would be in Africa today... History is past MUST LEAVE IT THERE and thank GOD your where you are TODAY...
Steve - 7 years ago
Ladies and Gentlemen I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God's earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. This day is a day that is proud to me, having occupied the position that I did for the past twelve years, and been misunderstood by your race. This is the first opportunity I have had during that time to say that I am your friend. I am here a representative of the southern people, one more slandered and maligned than any man in the nation.
I will say to you and to the colored race that men who bore arms and followed the flag of the Confederacy are, with very few exceptions, your friends. I have an opportunity of saying what I have always felt – that I am your friend, for my interests are your interests, and your interests are my interests. We were born on the same soil, breathe the same air, and live in the same land. Why, then, can we not live as brothers? I will say that when the war broke out I felt it my duty to stand by my people. When the time came I did the best I could, and I don't believe I flickered. I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe that I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to bring about peace. It has always been my motto to elevate every man- to depress none. I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going.
I have not said anything about politics today. I don't propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, that you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Use your best judgment in selecting men for office and vote as you think right.
Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. I have been in the heat of battle when colored men, asked me to protect them. I have placed myself between them and the bullets of my men, and told them they should be kept unharmed. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand"
Larry Tanner - 7 years ago
85% don't want the bust removed. All the politicians pandering to the 15% should take notice. We the electorate notice and we vote.
Robert - 7 years ago
I believe Phyllis should be taken to a museum instead. Hands off Forrest!
Brian - 7 years ago
Actually, more confederate statues should have been erected. It was a war that was not over slavery, but a war that was fought over northern ridiculousness. Today we have a bunch of crying liberal children who have no idea what happened because they have never picked up a book and only listen to what other whiny liberals teach them. Teach history. Learn from history. Don't tear history down.
Phyllis Washington - 7 years ago
We should not celebrate Forrest with a bust in the State Capitol. Take it to a museum.
Ben - 7 years ago
You can't change history. Stop trying! Leave American history alone.
Over 10,000 People came to NB Forest funeral. In 1877..That was a huge amount of people to have to get there in hard circumstances on Horseback and Buggies it's almost unthinkable.
No the people now today will never understand because they don't care about the real history they just live for the moment, with their little electronic devices copying and pasting lies. You are only hurting yourself and the Genetarations to come..all you haters, haters of our beloved Forrest and our Confederacy.
The very people trying to make this into a racist thing is the very ones who are racist themselves. I have been told by African Americans that their are many on their side are racists but won't admit to it.How would they feel if everyone started talking down Martin Luther King statues?To me it seems this is a way to divide our country by some very evil people.Abraham.Lincolin was a slave owner but knew a House Divided Will Not Stand.Apprently we haven't learned from our past mistakes.We are in the end times for GODS RETURN SO U BETTER GET WRIGHT WITH HIM ????
Sheryl Standley where did you get your information from. It is unbelievable what some people chose to believe. The UDC did not nor has ever met with the KKK. They are not and never will be a white supremacist organization any more than the DAR or Daughters of 1812, or Colonial Dames. The UDC works with Veterans of all wars, regardless of color at VA Hospitals, cleans up abandoned cemeteries, writes history books and preserves historical documents, diaries and other historical documents.
This poll shines a light on how many racists still thrive in Tennessee. We erect statues to our heroes, not the villains. This KKK founder is not an American hero. He was an American traitor, who took up arms against the USA. Trying to rewrite history serves no one. The Cicl,War was absolutely about slavery. If you want to say it was about States Rights, okay, the "right" they were fighting for was to keep slaves. How these people can call themselves Christians is beyond me. Jesus weeps.
Bye the way if people want to do away with American history then take down the Martin Luther King crap
People don't want to look back and see that a black man sold slaved TO BLACK PEOPLE LEAVE OUR HISTORY ALONE STUPID JERKS
Brian,
You are absolutely correct. People point out that Thomas Jefferson owned slaves. True, an inheritance from his father, but what could he do? He could not free them because that was illegal in the state of Virginia at that time. All, including Jefferson, would have been arrested and the slaves resold on the slave auction blocks to, perhaps, a cruel slave trader. He could not take them to free states because again all would have been arrested, the slaves would have been resold on a slavery auction block, perhaps to cruel slave traders and families split up to never see each other again. Jefferson did the only thing he could do, keep them as slaves but let them work as servants. One of the slaves, a young man traveled with him around the world, more like a brother than a slave and, of course, we know the story of Sally Hemmings! A very special friend!!!
Wayne, no one told me anything. I researched Forrest myself. Lots of slaves had to serve their masters in the Civil War. The information I wrote is part of Forrest' history. They are facts...easily researched facts. No amount of whitewashing can change those facts about Nathan Bedford Forrest nor his grandson. Educate yourself.
Sheryl Standley, please learn some real history. General Forrest personal guards were men of color even his personal chaplain was a black pastor. Go to the library of Congress and learn some real true history . Don't just take what some leftists has told you. That's what's wrong with our Republic today.
The Daughters of the Confederacy worked with the KKK to put these statues up. This bust was put up in the seventies in a white supremacist response to Civil Rights. Nathan Bedford Forrest raised such a hate filled, racist family that his grandson was the KKK Grand Dragon who spread the KKK outside the south and worked with the Daughters of the Confederacy to start putting up these monuments to white supremacy. Nathan Bedford Forrest was the KKK Grand Wizard who organized the KKK. They terrorized people of color. He organized one of first domestic terrorist organizations. During the war, he was responsible for insisting upon slaughtering prisoners of war if they were people of color. It was such a slaughter, it sickened his own soldiers. He made his million dollars by being a slave trader. A SLAVE TRADER! Goodie for him that he had a change of heart the last five years of his life. He did not change his family's heart, though. Forrest and his family have caused irreparable harm to our country. He should not be put upon a pedestal and honored. White supremacy should not be put upon a pedestal and honored. What a horrible thing to honor.
My ancestors fought in every war... Even the Civil War... And soldiers from every war are honorable... And should be honored as such statues and the like... Therefore this statue should not be moved... leave history alone !!!
Removing a statue or monument that has been up for over 100 years will not make hate-filled people happy, it will only make peaceful people hate.
Remove Haslem first, then stop using tax payers money to pay for Martin Luther King museum in Memphis.
The belief that hiding history in a closet will cure the problem is insane. History can not be changed, but it can be used to teach and prevent future Injustices. Until we as a society learn to imbrace the past we can never overcome the struggles of it's future.
I just listened to tv stating yes 77% NO 22% but YES is 14% & NO 86% above on this poll so why is it reversed what the MEDIA was saying ???? ARE THEY LIEING or just reversed numbers which ever it STINKS. Can not believe MEDIA once again. Statues are a symbol of people's history both good & bad but it SHOULD NOT be change to please one group but stay where it was placed..DO BLACK people not realize their own people SOLD THEM and if they had not been bought & brought here they would be in Africa today... History is past MUST LEAVE IT THERE and thank GOD your where you are TODAY...
Ladies and Gentlemen I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God's earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. This day is a day that is proud to me, having occupied the position that I did for the past twelve years, and been misunderstood by your race. This is the first opportunity I have had during that time to say that I am your friend. I am here a representative of the southern people, one more slandered and maligned than any man in the nation.
I will say to you and to the colored race that men who bore arms and followed the flag of the Confederacy are, with very few exceptions, your friends. I have an opportunity of saying what I have always felt – that I am your friend, for my interests are your interests, and your interests are my interests. We were born on the same soil, breathe the same air, and live in the same land. Why, then, can we not live as brothers? I will say that when the war broke out I felt it my duty to stand by my people. When the time came I did the best I could, and I don't believe I flickered. I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe that I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to bring about peace. It has always been my motto to elevate every man- to depress none. I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going.
I have not said anything about politics today. I don't propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, that you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Use your best judgment in selecting men for office and vote as you think right.
Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. I have been in the heat of battle when colored men, asked me to protect them. I have placed myself between them and the bullets of my men, and told them they should be kept unharmed. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand"
85% don't want the bust removed. All the politicians pandering to the 15% should take notice. We the electorate notice and we vote.
I believe Phyllis should be taken to a museum instead. Hands off Forrest!
Actually, more confederate statues should have been erected. It was a war that was not over slavery, but a war that was fought over northern ridiculousness. Today we have a bunch of crying liberal children who have no idea what happened because they have never picked up a book and only listen to what other whiny liberals teach them. Teach history. Learn from history. Don't tear history down.
We should not celebrate Forrest with a bust in the State Capitol. Take it to a museum.
You can't change history. Stop trying! Leave American history alone.