Get a grip. Since when is sex "sacrilegious?" Oh wait, I get it. It is only a bad thing is you aren't married, right? I sincerely hope you are writing "tongue-in-cheek," as if such a student existed I would presume that the staff on his floor would have noticed if he had "not left his room for three weeks." Sex is not a sin, not even when it includes the use of electronic devises. Again, get a grip on yourself!
O - 13 years ago
I could not disagree more with M. This was an atrocity of an experiment. I personally know one eighteen year old student who enrolled in the class human SEXuality having NO former knowledge of the sacrilegious deed. He, having been warned numerous times to leave if uncomfortable, made the conscious decision to stay and watch unspeakable sins being performed on stage. He now is permanently abstaining form any form of sexual activity and has not left his room for three weeks. Poor soul. Obviously this professor was out of his mind, letting virgin children with absolutely no control over their raging hormones see this. Can i get an AMEN if you agree??!
Mike - 13 years ago
To Carol,
If college students knew all about sex, we wouldn't be taking the course.
To k Pals,
Northwestern is a private school, as Rob has already mentioned. Additionally, you seem to be making some very wild and unsubstantiated insinuations about a published and respected member of Northwestern's faculty. I'm sure his background check would show up his Ph.D. in clinical psychology, numerous publications on sexuality, and book on the subject, showing him to be more than qualified for his position. He teaches a subject that many college students know little about, partially because of close-minded and sensationalist attitudes such as your own.
I was present in class that day, and I witnessed the demonstration in question, and I found nothing there at all disturbing. However, what I have found extremely disturbing is the public response to the event. To put the situation in short: Northwestern offers a class on Human Sexuality. Students who are interested in said topic take the class. The professor organizes additional, informative, and completely optional (nothing presented is ever tested on) after-class activities. These cover a variety of topics important to the understanding of sexuality. The professor sends information about the after-class events before the class, as well as an explanation during class of what was to follow. Students who were interested in this event attend, taking into account the warnings given them. Students learn about sexuality.
That sounds like education to me, but please let me know if I'm in any way mistaken.
Also: US News ranks Northwestern #12 and Marquette #75 in National Universities, so "picked" might not be the best word.
Regards,
Mike
PS Complete agreement with you, M. People need to back off our educations; we're all adults here. If you're not paying for it I don't see why you're complaining about it.
M - 13 years ago
This has all been blown way out of proportion. As a student at Northwestern with peers who attended this demonstration, I have not heard of anyone who has been permanently scarred. In fact, students in attendance had only good things to say, and did not ever imagine that this would become such a big deal. Also, students have had absolutely nothing but laudatory comments about Professor Bailey and his class.
Rob - 13 years ago
to k Pals
NU is a private school.
Rob - 13 years ago
As a former NU student, I find the flap over this event to be overblown. According to the published reports no student was required to participate; warnings were given about the explicit nature of the demos; it elicited frank discussion of subject matter directly related to the objectives of the course. I believe the purpose of a liberal education at NU is to expose students to ideas and behavior that challenges their concept of the world. We expect students that enter university to be adults and make adult decisions. They should therefore not require other adults limiting those choices other than for physical safety.
k Pals - 13 years ago
This is a Public University right? They did not believe it was wrong? Maybe someone should go in and check out what else is going on in that school in the name of EDUCATION/ research. Maybe this Instructor should have his background checked. Could this be his way to find an unsuspecting student to get his way with. This IS sick.
Sure glad My Son picked Marquette University
carol - 13 years ago
he should be fired, college students know about sex, they don't need to be shown.
To "O" -
Get a grip. Since when is sex "sacrilegious?" Oh wait, I get it. It is only a bad thing is you aren't married, right? I sincerely hope you are writing "tongue-in-cheek," as if such a student existed I would presume that the staff on his floor would have noticed if he had "not left his room for three weeks." Sex is not a sin, not even when it includes the use of electronic devises. Again, get a grip on yourself!
I could not disagree more with M. This was an atrocity of an experiment. I personally know one eighteen year old student who enrolled in the class human SEXuality having NO former knowledge of the sacrilegious deed. He, having been warned numerous times to leave if uncomfortable, made the conscious decision to stay and watch unspeakable sins being performed on stage. He now is permanently abstaining form any form of sexual activity and has not left his room for three weeks. Poor soul. Obviously this professor was out of his mind, letting virgin children with absolutely no control over their raging hormones see this. Can i get an AMEN if you agree??!
To Carol,
If college students knew all about sex, we wouldn't be taking the course.
To k Pals,
Northwestern is a private school, as Rob has already mentioned. Additionally, you seem to be making some very wild and unsubstantiated insinuations about a published and respected member of Northwestern's faculty. I'm sure his background check would show up his Ph.D. in clinical psychology, numerous publications on sexuality, and book on the subject, showing him to be more than qualified for his position. He teaches a subject that many college students know little about, partially because of close-minded and sensationalist attitudes such as your own.
I was present in class that day, and I witnessed the demonstration in question, and I found nothing there at all disturbing. However, what I have found extremely disturbing is the public response to the event. To put the situation in short: Northwestern offers a class on Human Sexuality. Students who are interested in said topic take the class. The professor organizes additional, informative, and completely optional (nothing presented is ever tested on) after-class activities. These cover a variety of topics important to the understanding of sexuality. The professor sends information about the after-class events before the class, as well as an explanation during class of what was to follow. Students who were interested in this event attend, taking into account the warnings given them. Students learn about sexuality.
That sounds like education to me, but please let me know if I'm in any way mistaken.
Also: US News ranks Northwestern #12 and Marquette #75 in National Universities, so "picked" might not be the best word.
Regards,
Mike
PS Complete agreement with you, M. People need to back off our educations; we're all adults here. If you're not paying for it I don't see why you're complaining about it.
This has all been blown way out of proportion. As a student at Northwestern with peers who attended this demonstration, I have not heard of anyone who has been permanently scarred. In fact, students in attendance had only good things to say, and did not ever imagine that this would become such a big deal. Also, students have had absolutely nothing but laudatory comments about Professor Bailey and his class.
to k Pals
NU is a private school.
As a former NU student, I find the flap over this event to be overblown. According to the published reports no student was required to participate; warnings were given about the explicit nature of the demos; it elicited frank discussion of subject matter directly related to the objectives of the course. I believe the purpose of a liberal education at NU is to expose students to ideas and behavior that challenges their concept of the world. We expect students that enter university to be adults and make adult decisions. They should therefore not require other adults limiting those choices other than for physical safety.
This is a Public University right? They did not believe it was wrong? Maybe someone should go in and check out what else is going on in that school in the name of EDUCATION/ research. Maybe this Instructor should have his background checked. Could this be his way to find an unsuspecting student to get his way with. This IS sick.
Sure glad My Son picked Marquette University
he should be fired, college students know about sex, they don't need to be shown.