Football is a game of varied emotions....some high and some low. Each coach represents his team, organization and city. Poor representation on both sides.
Doug - 13 years ago
Harbaugh has a long history of this crap!
I don't condone what Schwartz did, but I know he was provoked. If this was the first time Harbaugh pulled one of these moves, I might feel differently.
Harbaugh = NO CLASS
Bob - 13 years ago
Not being a follower of the sport, it does appear to me that the Detroit coach appears to be the sore loser.
bp - 13 years ago
some idiots here are willing to say harbaugh just gave a manly back slap---if that happened to your ass would you not take offense!?! I would give that mofo a beatdown he's never felt--just like the rest of you
Woots - 13 years ago
Watching the replays, it's obvious that Harbaugh was excited and celebrating, and wasn't looking in Schwartz's direction, so when he got to him he initially thought he was another celebrating player, he shook his hand and gave him a pat on the back and as he was doing it you can kind of tell he realized it was the other coach. Big deal. You can also clearly see Harbaugh did not say anything, but Schwartz called him an a$$hole. The facts line up one way - Harbaugh was over excited, but Schwartz was a sore loser, a liar, and couldn't take a handshake.
Art Liebman - 13 years ago
Jim Harbaugh is the "Classic Bully". He has no right putting his hands on the other coach
other than traditional handshake or slap on back. He was totally out of line in what he did
and never will apologize. Pete Carrol learned about him at USC when he acted like and bully and idiot after a Stanford game. He'll never grow up and is just a smart aleck kid in a grown man's body.
Muse - 13 years ago
Harbaugh was Harbaugh being Harbaugh. Don't expect him to pretend to be someone else. What he did was not egregious. It was not a shove, it was a slap on the back, people do that in life, it happens all the time, big deal. Schwartz went berserk, he's got to be a jerk underneath it all. I've never seen a coach go nuts like that.
t-bone - 13 years ago
@ace720.. you're an idiot.. the comment Schwartz made was in regard to one of the Cowboys coaches who said Calvin Johnson would be a 3rd stringer if were on the Cowboys team.. then Schwartz said "i'm glad their 3rd best receiver plays for our team".. go back to posting/commenting on things you know about.. like fantasy/world of warcraft/NAMBLA
ace720 - 13 years ago
Schwarts is a baby..He showed that last week when he talked crap to a Cowboys player. Coaches need to refrain from getting into it with opposing players and, need to have crocodile skin when being a coach. I believe he made up the profanity comment to justify his whining that "oh the slap on my back hurt" SUCH A CRY BABY...THE LIONS HAVE BEEN LUCKY TO THIS POINT, THEIR TIME HAS COME AND DOWN THEY WILL GO, LIKE THEIR WHINING COACH.
Bryan - 13 years ago
At first glance, I thought Schwartz showed a lack of class and sportsmanship. The initial video snippets made him look like a fool...but later comes longer and more detailed video, plus the classless manner in which Harbaugh mocked the situation during his post game comments. Although you can't see what Harbaugh said to Schwartz, unless you can read lips, to get that kind of reaction from Schwartz must had required some passing comment. Human reaction to an insult is something we all see, and this just matches that scenario. I really thought Harbaugh had a chance to reduce this to a non-issue, but his mocking remarks about a hard handshake, coupled with his smirks was in my opinion, a sign of a bully. Booo on both of these men..they really embarrassed their sport and their teams.
woody hayes - 13 years ago
I just dont understand these boys what's wrong with (poor)sportsmanship?
The Lion coach was the person who was willing to take the thing to blows. So he loses, period.
Harbaugh was out of control to be sure, but punching a guy for being a moron is less OK than being an idiot in the first place.
Nils Lambrecht - 13 years ago
Its one thing to give a slap on the back, and to fail to pay attention to the other coach during the end of a game. Thats bad manners! Its another, to initiate a riot across the field, because you feel disrespected. When tensions are high, this kind of behavior can rally the entire team and the the resulting brawl may end in unforeseen inuries. It looks clearly to me, that Schwartz was reckless to pursue Harbaugh across the field. If you feel treated badly, take it in and be the bigger one.
SSchwartz - 13 years ago
Schwartz is the problem here. An overly excited congratulations after a close game and he tries to start something? That's crazy. Man up and handle a slap on the back and energetic handshake.
Destro1 - 13 years ago
Harbaugh got the win........Schwartz got a loss...get over it, can't win 'em all
B Ravens - 13 years ago
Jim HArbaugh needs to take a few pointers from his brother John. Yes it wa bownwingout by Kimt
Under Review - 13 years ago
The NFL is a business. The NFL is 2 steps higher brow than professional wrestling. It doesn't matter who was at fault, all this incident will do is further incite people to tune in to more NFL games and watch more commercials.
Your Lion Eyes - 13 years ago
Schwartz seems to suffer from "little man's disease" ( Napoleon complex); seeking ultimate respect in the NFL, without ever playing in it. Harbaugh seems to have a superiority complex from his NFL experience ... looking down on ANYbody who coaches and doesn't have any NFL playing experience. Both appear terribly insecure and obsessed with acceptance in the league (which you only get through wins). Fair enough.
But is it too much to expect coaches to at least feign respect toward each other at the post-game handshake, if players are routinely penalized and/or fined for perceived disrespect on the field by officials? Isn't the NFL trying to improve its sportsmanship amongst players through rule enforcement and fines? If so, then why not extend the same ethos to coaches? Are they not also under the same commissioner sovereignty as the players?
This seems to be a good opportunity for the league to set boundaries that will make clear the behavioral expectations of coaches, too. Won't that serve notice to other coaches in the future of what is expected of them, so that a PUBLIC spectacle of this sort won't defame the league again? How hard could it actually be to expect coaches to look one another in the eye , while shaking his hand, and (lying if you have to) congratulate him?
(It happens every day in divorce court!)
BobKat - 13 years ago
Coach Harbaugh- you're not in college anymore!!!! Show the class expected of you at the pro level. Save your back slaps for your players in the locker room and treat the opposing coach, win or lose, with the respect you'd like to be treated.
HarbaughWHO - 13 years ago
Johnny the BackSlapper,
You obviously have a thing with a**$$$$'s, I mean just read your name; your obsessed.
moses - 13 years ago
C'mon man -- there has to be more important things to discuss like the effort of the niners in the game!!!
Johnny The BackSlapper - 13 years ago
Harbaugh is in the right and schwartz is an a******, anyone says different is an a****** too!
Perajen - 13 years ago
I'm a Giants fan, so I have no emotional attachment to this event. After seeing multiple replays, I think Harbaugh was totally unprofessional. Schwartz had his hand extended to congratulate, and it basically got slapped and then he was shoved in the back in a dismissive manner. I would have been pissed if I were Schwartz, too. Harbaugh should be fined heavily for instigation and physical intrusion, and Schwartz should be fined a token amount for overreacting and setting a poor example of how to behave in the face of adversity.
David Bird - 13 years ago
In all honesty, what REALLY is the problem? How much attention needs to be given to this? If the owners of the 2 teams have an issue with how their employee acted, I am sure they will handle it. Oterwise, let it go, who cares. Great game between 2 teams...
Lions2011 - 13 years ago
A lot of the news articles fail to mention that Schwartz was more up set with the comment Harbaugh made rather than the hand shake by itself. The coach is the leader, if 49’r fans are happy with their coach’s actions thnn good for them; I personally would be embarrassed. Good for Schwartz to get pissed off, hopefully his leader ship will field a better team next game for the Lions.
J. Garnett - 13 years ago
I never knew that the pleasantries at the end of an NFL game had to be acceptable to all parties, as long as no hostilities were initiated; the video shows that no serious physical altercation was intended.
Ed Van Wyste - 13 years ago
Please, this isn't the PGA, it's the NFL! I have read that there is a certain "gentlemen" handshake that the coaches are suppose to use to show respect. Jim Harbaugh was excited, caught up in the moment and wasn't thinking, that's football. Jim Schwartz grabbed Harbaugh's shirt and ran after him, he went mental, that's football. The media is finally talking about the Lions and the 49ers, a few years ago neither team got any Press because they had terrible seasons. Bad press is good press because that's football. Let's move on to next week.
1973 Bronco - 13 years ago
Harbaugh is completely in the wrong. You don't treat the opposing teams coach as a celebrating player. You need to be professional....shake his hand like a gentleman and say "Nice game coach".....not an over-exaggerated handshake and push in the back. What an un-gracious winner.
Andy76 - 13 years ago
Lions Fan here: Schwartz should have stayed calm, but Harbaugh is a spaz. The entire game especially the last minute Harbaugh couldn’t stand still. Honestly, I would much rather have my coach act like Schwartz who was upset with the loss compared to Harbaugh who was acting like a little 5 year old who was just given a butter finger. Really don’t they start teaching kids in kindergarten to be better sports than Harbaugh was acting? The coaches behavior carry’s over to the players and you could definitely tell it did by the players responses after the game. 49’s played well and hard, good win, but learn some class after a victory.
What's your deal? - 13 years ago
Harbaugh is no stranger to behavior like this. He was like this in college, and in high school too. Some things never change.
eric - 13 years ago
Hmmmm....think Jim Harbaugh would pull that on his brother (John) after beating the ravens in a similar fashion? I think not. Why not have a degree of professionalism and act like you've been there before, not act like some howling primate. You're the boss, now act like you can run the team with cool confidence, idiot.
Jazzguy - 13 years ago
Harbaugh is Harbaugh. One of these days somebody will probably punch him in the nose. Because of the circumstances--losing his first game and watching Harbaugh overreact to just about everything throughout the game--Schwartz overracted. He's the coach. There is a higher standard of behavior for him. He should have just shook his head and kept on walking when Harbaugh did his back slap. If I were the NFL I would fine Harbaugh and suspend Schwartz for one game. Just my opinion.
t-bone - 13 years ago
who cares.. lions played like crap and didn't deserve to win (i'm a lions fan).. 49'er defense was great and the 49'ers overcame a ton of penalties and beat the lions fair and square. stafford played like crap.. 49'ers exposed a hole in our defensive line that i'm sure will get plugged.
schwartz is an otherwise calm individual and probably took it the wrong way.. and shoulda just walked away with class. harbaugh is a maniac period.. every penalty he looked like someone shot his mama.. reminded me of a whiney chris carter or reggie miller.
both acted like little kids.. whether the poor loser or the bragging kid with his shiney new big wheel running over the poor loser's toe.
now we're both 5-1.. both ahead of where we were last year.. and for us lions fans personally, miles away from 0-16..
Jimmy Joe - 13 years ago
Earlier when Harbaugh made a bad call Schwartz told him to learn the MFing rulebook. Schwartz got what he deserved.
Dan - 13 years ago
Bith were in the wrong but Harbaugh started it and anyone who says that was a ""slap on the back" and not an aggressive shove is obviously a 49ers fan or is otherwise biased.
gabe - 13 years ago
Schwartz went out of his way to chase after Harbaugh and then makes up an excuse about some alleged "obscenity" without any proof or explanation as a smokescreen for his own hot-headed bad behavior.
thinskinnedcoach - 13 years ago
The replay shows Harbaugh being excited by the win and gave Schwartz a hardy handshake and a slap on the back. I think Schwartz will realize that he over reacted after reviewing the replay. It is great to see an NFL coach excited about a win.
dro - 13 years ago
It was just an old manly slap on the back. MAN UP!!!
Football is a game of varied emotions....some high and some low. Each coach represents his team, organization and city. Poor representation on both sides.
Harbaugh has a long history of this crap!
I don't condone what Schwartz did, but I know he was provoked. If this was the first time Harbaugh pulled one of these moves, I might feel differently.
Harbaugh = NO CLASS
Not being a follower of the sport, it does appear to me that the Detroit coach appears to be the sore loser.
some idiots here are willing to say harbaugh just gave a manly back slap---if that happened to your ass would you not take offense!?! I would give that mofo a beatdown he's never felt--just like the rest of you
Watching the replays, it's obvious that Harbaugh was excited and celebrating, and wasn't looking in Schwartz's direction, so when he got to him he initially thought he was another celebrating player, he shook his hand and gave him a pat on the back and as he was doing it you can kind of tell he realized it was the other coach. Big deal. You can also clearly see Harbaugh did not say anything, but Schwartz called him an a$$hole. The facts line up one way - Harbaugh was over excited, but Schwartz was a sore loser, a liar, and couldn't take a handshake.
Jim Harbaugh is the "Classic Bully". He has no right putting his hands on the other coach
other than traditional handshake or slap on back. He was totally out of line in what he did
and never will apologize. Pete Carrol learned about him at USC when he acted like and bully and idiot after a Stanford game. He'll never grow up and is just a smart aleck kid in a grown man's body.
Harbaugh was Harbaugh being Harbaugh. Don't expect him to pretend to be someone else. What he did was not egregious. It was not a shove, it was a slap on the back, people do that in life, it happens all the time, big deal. Schwartz went berserk, he's got to be a jerk underneath it all. I've never seen a coach go nuts like that.
@ace720.. you're an idiot.. the comment Schwartz made was in regard to one of the Cowboys coaches who said Calvin Johnson would be a 3rd stringer if were on the Cowboys team.. then Schwartz said "i'm glad their 3rd best receiver plays for our team".. go back to posting/commenting on things you know about.. like fantasy/world of warcraft/NAMBLA
Schwarts is a baby..He showed that last week when he talked crap to a Cowboys player. Coaches need to refrain from getting into it with opposing players and, need to have crocodile skin when being a coach. I believe he made up the profanity comment to justify his whining that "oh the slap on my back hurt" SUCH A CRY BABY...THE LIONS HAVE BEEN LUCKY TO THIS POINT, THEIR TIME HAS COME AND DOWN THEY WILL GO, LIKE THEIR WHINING COACH.
At first glance, I thought Schwartz showed a lack of class and sportsmanship. The initial video snippets made him look like a fool...but later comes longer and more detailed video, plus the classless manner in which Harbaugh mocked the situation during his post game comments. Although you can't see what Harbaugh said to Schwartz, unless you can read lips, to get that kind of reaction from Schwartz must had required some passing comment. Human reaction to an insult is something we all see, and this just matches that scenario. I really thought Harbaugh had a chance to reduce this to a non-issue, but his mocking remarks about a hard handshake, coupled with his smirks was in my opinion, a sign of a bully. Booo on both of these men..they really embarrassed their sport and their teams.
I just dont understand these boys what's wrong with (poor)sportsmanship?
The Lion coach was the person who was willing to take the thing to blows. So he loses, period.
Harbaugh was out of control to be sure, but punching a guy for being a moron is less OK than being an idiot in the first place.
Its one thing to give a slap on the back, and to fail to pay attention to the other coach during the end of a game. Thats bad manners! Its another, to initiate a riot across the field, because you feel disrespected. When tensions are high, this kind of behavior can rally the entire team and the the resulting brawl may end in unforeseen inuries. It looks clearly to me, that Schwartz was reckless to pursue Harbaugh across the field. If you feel treated badly, take it in and be the bigger one.
Schwartz is the problem here. An overly excited congratulations after a close game and he tries to start something? That's crazy. Man up and handle a slap on the back and energetic handshake.
Harbaugh got the win........Schwartz got a loss...get over it, can't win 'em all
Jim HArbaugh needs to take a few pointers from his brother John. Yes it wa bownwingout by Kimt
The NFL is a business. The NFL is 2 steps higher brow than professional wrestling. It doesn't matter who was at fault, all this incident will do is further incite people to tune in to more NFL games and watch more commercials.
Schwartz seems to suffer from "little man's disease" ( Napoleon complex); seeking ultimate respect in the NFL, without ever playing in it. Harbaugh seems to have a superiority complex from his NFL experience ... looking down on ANYbody who coaches and doesn't have any NFL playing experience. Both appear terribly insecure and obsessed with acceptance in the league (which you only get through wins). Fair enough.
But is it too much to expect coaches to at least feign respect toward each other at the post-game handshake, if players are routinely penalized and/or fined for perceived disrespect on the field by officials? Isn't the NFL trying to improve its sportsmanship amongst players through rule enforcement and fines? If so, then why not extend the same ethos to coaches? Are they not also under the same commissioner sovereignty as the players?
This seems to be a good opportunity for the league to set boundaries that will make clear the behavioral expectations of coaches, too. Won't that serve notice to other coaches in the future of what is expected of them, so that a PUBLIC spectacle of this sort won't defame the league again? How hard could it actually be to expect coaches to look one another in the eye , while shaking his hand, and (lying if you have to) congratulate him?
(It happens every day in divorce court!)
Coach Harbaugh- you're not in college anymore!!!! Show the class expected of you at the pro level. Save your back slaps for your players in the locker room and treat the opposing coach, win or lose, with the respect you'd like to be treated.
Johnny the BackSlapper,
You obviously have a thing with a**$$$$'s, I mean just read your name; your obsessed.
C'mon man -- there has to be more important things to discuss like the effort of the niners in the game!!!
Harbaugh is in the right and schwartz is an a******, anyone says different is an a****** too!
I'm a Giants fan, so I have no emotional attachment to this event. After seeing multiple replays, I think Harbaugh was totally unprofessional. Schwartz had his hand extended to congratulate, and it basically got slapped and then he was shoved in the back in a dismissive manner. I would have been pissed if I were Schwartz, too. Harbaugh should be fined heavily for instigation and physical intrusion, and Schwartz should be fined a token amount for overreacting and setting a poor example of how to behave in the face of adversity.
In all honesty, what REALLY is the problem? How much attention needs to be given to this? If the owners of the 2 teams have an issue with how their employee acted, I am sure they will handle it. Oterwise, let it go, who cares. Great game between 2 teams...
A lot of the news articles fail to mention that Schwartz was more up set with the comment Harbaugh made rather than the hand shake by itself. The coach is the leader, if 49’r fans are happy with their coach’s actions thnn good for them; I personally would be embarrassed. Good for Schwartz to get pissed off, hopefully his leader ship will field a better team next game for the Lions.
I never knew that the pleasantries at the end of an NFL game had to be acceptable to all parties, as long as no hostilities were initiated; the video shows that no serious physical altercation was intended.
Please, this isn't the PGA, it's the NFL! I have read that there is a certain "gentlemen" handshake that the coaches are suppose to use to show respect. Jim Harbaugh was excited, caught up in the moment and wasn't thinking, that's football. Jim Schwartz grabbed Harbaugh's shirt and ran after him, he went mental, that's football. The media is finally talking about the Lions and the 49ers, a few years ago neither team got any Press because they had terrible seasons. Bad press is good press because that's football. Let's move on to next week.
Harbaugh is completely in the wrong. You don't treat the opposing teams coach as a celebrating player. You need to be professional....shake his hand like a gentleman and say "Nice game coach".....not an over-exaggerated handshake and push in the back. What an un-gracious winner.
Lions Fan here: Schwartz should have stayed calm, but Harbaugh is a spaz. The entire game especially the last minute Harbaugh couldn’t stand still. Honestly, I would much rather have my coach act like Schwartz who was upset with the loss compared to Harbaugh who was acting like a little 5 year old who was just given a butter finger. Really don’t they start teaching kids in kindergarten to be better sports than Harbaugh was acting? The coaches behavior carry’s over to the players and you could definitely tell it did by the players responses after the game. 49’s played well and hard, good win, but learn some class after a victory.
Harbaugh is no stranger to behavior like this. He was like this in college, and in high school too. Some things never change.
Hmmmm....think Jim Harbaugh would pull that on his brother (John) after beating the ravens in a similar fashion? I think not. Why not have a degree of professionalism and act like you've been there before, not act like some howling primate. You're the boss, now act like you can run the team with cool confidence, idiot.
Harbaugh is Harbaugh. One of these days somebody will probably punch him in the nose. Because of the circumstances--losing his first game and watching Harbaugh overreact to just about everything throughout the game--Schwartz overracted. He's the coach. There is a higher standard of behavior for him. He should have just shook his head and kept on walking when Harbaugh did his back slap. If I were the NFL I would fine Harbaugh and suspend Schwartz for one game. Just my opinion.
who cares.. lions played like crap and didn't deserve to win (i'm a lions fan).. 49'er defense was great and the 49'ers overcame a ton of penalties and beat the lions fair and square. stafford played like crap.. 49'ers exposed a hole in our defensive line that i'm sure will get plugged.
schwartz is an otherwise calm individual and probably took it the wrong way.. and shoulda just walked away with class. harbaugh is a maniac period.. every penalty he looked like someone shot his mama.. reminded me of a whiney chris carter or reggie miller.
both acted like little kids.. whether the poor loser or the bragging kid with his shiney new big wheel running over the poor loser's toe.
now we're both 5-1.. both ahead of where we were last year.. and for us lions fans personally, miles away from 0-16..
Earlier when Harbaugh made a bad call Schwartz told him to learn the MFing rulebook. Schwartz got what he deserved.
Bith were in the wrong but Harbaugh started it and anyone who says that was a ""slap on the back" and not an aggressive shove is obviously a 49ers fan or is otherwise biased.
Schwartz went out of his way to chase after Harbaugh and then makes up an excuse about some alleged "obscenity" without any proof or explanation as a smokescreen for his own hot-headed bad behavior.
The replay shows Harbaugh being excited by the win and gave Schwartz a hardy handshake and a slap on the back. I think Schwartz will realize that he over reacted after reviewing the replay. It is great to see an NFL coach excited about a win.
It was just an old manly slap on the back. MAN UP!!!