Not only do the Liberals not listen to the people of BC, but now NDP leader Adrian Dix said he will not canncel the Smart meters if elected..
June - 12 years ago
The paranoia over radiation is just that... paranoia. People willingly surround themselves with wifi and cell phone signals, but once a single meter is put in, that wirelessly transmits data once a day... all hell breaks loose. People will take one paranoid blog article written by someone with no real knowledge on the subject and assume it's all 100% true...
I look forward to my smart meter, especially if I can get access to accurate daily usage reports, so I know exactly what in my house affects my bill.
Canada is a very special part of the world, lets keep it free of Corporate Radiation, lies, and harasment!
No to Smart Meters!
sunonstone - 12 years ago
For Morris: You're right about destroying the analogues. Hydro contracted that deed out to a US company, and demolition is underway. However, I think there are too many concerned and angry people, growing in number, waking up as facts emerge and light bulbs go on, so to speak. I think Hydro and the B.C. Liberals will find that a growing number of people aren't willing any more to "go along", with Smart Meters at least. Not "hold outs" to "humour," but lawsuits and health issues to deal with.
If cost, health effects and human rights, hacking and safety issues continue to escalate, this government won't find it easy to continue business as usual. The best and easiest, safest thing for Hydro, or whatever it is morphing into, to do, would be to follow the example of places like Quebec in Canada, France, Switzerland and other countries in Europe, a substantial number of States in the US and Australia, etc. and simply make flexible wired options available without discrimination. THAT would be the least hassle for them in the long haul . . . Analogues are readily available and there are those in the wings who are perfectly capable of making them available to anyone who wants one.
The issue now is much bigger than streetcars and buses. It is whether or not Hydro and the BC Liberals, not to mention the Federal Conservatives, will continue to tell lies, hide their agenda, manipulate the law and ignore the mounting number of scientific studies that implicate them in coercion and collusion.
David Chalk: http://citizensforsafetechnology.org/Cyber-expert-on-SMART-GRID,25,2031
The Power film: http://thepowerfilm.org/
Health Issues: http://citizensforsafetechnology.org/Electromagnetic-and-Radiofrequency-Fields-Effect-on-Human-Health,5,2034
Check out www.thepowerfilm.org and watch the trailer for Take Back Your Power about the need for Canadians to stand up for their democratic rights. Legally we can refuse devices that exposes our families to a class 2b carcinogen 24/7, and that could set our home on fire because it is installed "LIVE" when devices/appliances are on, and opens our information to hacking as ALL wireless devices are hackable, and obviously increase our energy bills to pay for the technology. To my friends who want next-generation energy metering to be in compliance with the Clean Energy Act - you can still have a WIRED smart meter without the microwave radiofrequency radiation. Ask yourself: "What amount of microwave radiofrequency radiation is safe for the human sperm, an embryo, a fetus or a pregnant woman?" The answer = NONE. Period. Do your research people! We are ending the latency period when the people who adopted the first "brick" cell phones are now getting brain tumors. That is why microwave radiofrequency radiation has been upgraded to a class 2b carcinogen by the World Health Organization. The worldwide increase in glioma type brain tumors is undeniable. With smart meters we are receiving whole body radiation exposure. Watch the video clip and refuse a wireless smart meter until a safe no cost metering option is made available.
Morris Cohen - 12 years ago
The way I see this playing out is as follows. B.C. Hydro is very quickly going to remove the wired meters and then quickly destroy or ship them out of the country, then claim it is too expensive to replace them. The minority of hold outs will be humored, then as they require replacing, will have only the wireless available. If too many people hold out, Hydro is likely to issue an extra charge for a meter reader. Eventually customers will get fed up
and go along with the easiest, least hassle and sign up for wireless.
All the new construction will be wireless or extra costs for wired to get special meter readers out to do their thing.
This was the same tactic used on removing street cars and replaced with diesel buses or highway arteries. Many people are replacing their wired phones for cell phones so I see the same thing happening with telephones.
Marcus Schluschen - 12 years ago
What kind of uncivilized society are we becoming? Did I miss the announcement of Prime Minister Harper that democracy has become obsolete in Canada and is a relic of the past?
Trampling on democratic rights by the BC government is an act of treason. It is high time for the RCMP to step in! Does it require a major tragedy before anything is done about this?
Canadians, you owe it to those who gave their life defending democracy for our country and say no to 'smart' meters! No one should be forced against their will to accept the installation of a device that sends pulsed radiation, a 2b carcinogen like DDT and asbestos on their home!
Milly - 12 years ago
The corporate media is sitting on a power keg if they continue to suppress information pertaining to the disastrous smart meter program. Keep it up Province Newspaper and you will be gone too.
George Hayduke - 12 years ago
Time to break out the chainsaws.
Judith Munns - 12 years ago
I oppose the installation of smart meters for three reasons: One: they are not just a local issue, they are global. Who is behind them and why do 'they' need to know all the information that these things broadcast? Second: I know several people who have become ill due to the increased energy surrounding and emanating from smart meters that were installed at their homes. How could that electrical bombardment be safe for infants and other sensitive people and animals? Third: I have not yet heard of any bills being lowered as a result of this increased information being available to power companies. I do, however, know people whose power bills increased double and sometimes triple over pre-smart-meter-installation rates. How is that benefitting the whole power issue for humanity? (Except to increase power company profits, of course.)
Lee Leeman - 12 years ago
A 1 BILLION dollar installation invoice will be delivered to us via smart meter. After that, once the flow of money is established, it will be tweaked and given a greenwash.
No NO NO!!.
jim upton - 12 years ago
there is a very interesting video on smart meters at wwwgoldsilver.com/video/smartmeters
Sandy Beresford - 12 years ago
No, No and No
G Benazic - 12 years ago
Corix was at our home early fall and we refused the smart meter. We then received a phone call from 'the supervisor' who said we were just listening to propaganda and referred us to the BC Hydro website. I asked where I could find the actual research done on smart meters that indicate that the emissions are not harmful to one's health. Of course, there is NOWHERE on BC Hydro's site that will direct you to the research. If you are trying to convince people that smart meters are a good choice and healthy, you need to be able to provide the information that states it is so. I am still waiting for my callback with the site where I can see this research and it has been about 3 months!
If you are in doubt, maybe you want to see what research the World Health Organization (WHO) used to put smart meters into the same hazard category as DDT!!! How long did governments and authoritative groups recommend DDT use for farmers and gardeners? My mother used it in our vegetable garden for pest control! It has now been many years that DDT is not available on the shelves and the research continues on some of the long-term side effects for those who used it. 20 years from now I do not want to be part of a research group they are looking at for the effects of smart meter emissions.
Futures - 12 years ago
I do not agree with how this project is being executed but I do agree with Smart Meters. The smart meter project is a neccassary step to deal with our disgusting abuse of energy use.
G.M. Wolf - 12 years ago
No, I do not support the Smart Meters and never will... They are being forced on us and we have no say so in the matter...
So much for public input. The way it is being handled is nothing but a farce. As a human being, I do not deserve that kind of treatment and should have choices in the matter.
George Payerle - 12 years ago
Obviously, I did not proofread the preceding adequately. Never mind the repetitive statement about "public input" – that can bear repetition. But toward the end of the last paragraph, "competing the creation" should, I hope clearly, be "completing the creation" of a global economy which would be a total plutocracy, meaning the rule (the power) of wealth. The absolute rule of wealth. In absolute plutocracy, chances are that only the wealthy are valued as human beings. Everyone else is at best a slave. And the lives of slaves are in themselves worth nothing. Work until you drop, and then get tossed in the incinerator. Except by then we will likely have made Planet Earth uninhabitable anyway.
George Payerle - 12 years ago
No means no. I'm tired of government(s) that have no respect for persons, that insist on making decisions which seek to impose drastic measures on us all without any opportunity for public input, without transparency and without provision for input. It has become, both provincially and federally, a case of government by fiat. The election of government remains democratic, but this is democracy in name only. The PROCESS of government has become a process of pro-forma debate (if any) followed by rubber-stamping of policies and legislation governed only by the agenda of the "ruling" party. Whether or not that party represents the views and needs of the general populace.
These Smart Meters are being used as a bludgeon to further the interests of neo-conservative power brokers, both literally and figuratively. These power brokers want, for instance, to build VERY crude oil pipelines through vulnerable ecosystems to fuel industry with increasingly toxic fossil fuel, and yet claim we need Smart Meters to benefit the environment! That is malarkey. We will be billed ever-increasing rates for peak-period electricity consumption. Those peak periods are the times when people need to bathe, cook and wash their dishes and/or laundry to that they can continue to live and function for increasingly meagre wages in a technocratic society which values individual lives the way it values disposable packaging and used batteries. This is all BS aimed at competing the creation of a global economy in which a very few are very wealthy and everyone else sucks hind tit. This is not what we want, nor what we deserve, simply as human beings.
Not only do the Liberals not listen to the people of BC, but now NDP leader Adrian Dix said he will not canncel the Smart meters if elected..
The paranoia over radiation is just that... paranoia. People willingly surround themselves with wifi and cell phone signals, but once a single meter is put in, that wirelessly transmits data once a day... all hell breaks loose. People will take one paranoid blog article written by someone with no real knowledge on the subject and assume it's all 100% true...
I look forward to my smart meter, especially if I can get access to accurate daily usage reports, so I know exactly what in my house affects my bill.
Canada is a very special part of the world, lets keep it free of Corporate Radiation, lies, and harasment!
No to Smart Meters!
For Morris: You're right about destroying the analogues. Hydro contracted that deed out to a US company, and demolition is underway. However, I think there are too many concerned and angry people, growing in number, waking up as facts emerge and light bulbs go on, so to speak. I think Hydro and the B.C. Liberals will find that a growing number of people aren't willing any more to "go along", with Smart Meters at least. Not "hold outs" to "humour," but lawsuits and health issues to deal with.
If cost, health effects and human rights, hacking and safety issues continue to escalate, this government won't find it easy to continue business as usual. The best and easiest, safest thing for Hydro, or whatever it is morphing into, to do, would be to follow the example of places like Quebec in Canada, France, Switzerland and other countries in Europe, a substantial number of States in the US and Australia, etc. and simply make flexible wired options available without discrimination. THAT would be the least hassle for them in the long haul . . . Analogues are readily available and there are those in the wings who are perfectly capable of making them available to anyone who wants one.
The issue now is much bigger than streetcars and buses. It is whether or not Hydro and the BC Liberals, not to mention the Federal Conservatives, will continue to tell lies, hide their agenda, manipulate the law and ignore the mounting number of scientific studies that implicate them in coercion and collusion.
David Chalk: http://citizensforsafetechnology.org/Cyber-expert-on-SMART-GRID,25,2031
The Power film: http://thepowerfilm.org/
Health Issues: http://citizensforsafetechnology.org/Electromagnetic-and-Radiofrequency-Fields-Effect-on-Human-Health,5,2034
Now it's action, not just words, that counts.
Check out www.thepowerfilm.org and watch the trailer for Take Back Your Power about the need for Canadians to stand up for their democratic rights. Legally we can refuse devices that exposes our families to a class 2b carcinogen 24/7, and that could set our home on fire because it is installed "LIVE" when devices/appliances are on, and opens our information to hacking as ALL wireless devices are hackable, and obviously increase our energy bills to pay for the technology. To my friends who want next-generation energy metering to be in compliance with the Clean Energy Act - you can still have a WIRED smart meter without the microwave radiofrequency radiation. Ask yourself: "What amount of microwave radiofrequency radiation is safe for the human sperm, an embryo, a fetus or a pregnant woman?" The answer = NONE. Period. Do your research people! We are ending the latency period when the people who adopted the first "brick" cell phones are now getting brain tumors. That is why microwave radiofrequency radiation has been upgraded to a class 2b carcinogen by the World Health Organization. The worldwide increase in glioma type brain tumors is undeniable. With smart meters we are receiving whole body radiation exposure. Watch the video clip and refuse a wireless smart meter until a safe no cost metering option is made available.
The way I see this playing out is as follows. B.C. Hydro is very quickly going to remove the wired meters and then quickly destroy or ship them out of the country, then claim it is too expensive to replace them. The minority of hold outs will be humored, then as they require replacing, will have only the wireless available. If too many people hold out, Hydro is likely to issue an extra charge for a meter reader. Eventually customers will get fed up
and go along with the easiest, least hassle and sign up for wireless.
All the new construction will be wireless or extra costs for wired to get special meter readers out to do their thing.
This was the same tactic used on removing street cars and replaced with diesel buses or highway arteries. Many people are replacing their wired phones for cell phones so I see the same thing happening with telephones.
What kind of uncivilized society are we becoming? Did I miss the announcement of Prime Minister Harper that democracy has become obsolete in Canada and is a relic of the past?
Trampling on democratic rights by the BC government is an act of treason. It is high time for the RCMP to step in! Does it require a major tragedy before anything is done about this?
Canadians, you owe it to those who gave their life defending democracy for our country and say no to 'smart' meters! No one should be forced against their will to accept the installation of a device that sends pulsed radiation, a 2b carcinogen like DDT and asbestos on their home!
The corporate media is sitting on a power keg if they continue to suppress information pertaining to the disastrous smart meter program. Keep it up Province Newspaper and you will be gone too.
Time to break out the chainsaws.
I oppose the installation of smart meters for three reasons: One: they are not just a local issue, they are global. Who is behind them and why do 'they' need to know all the information that these things broadcast? Second: I know several people who have become ill due to the increased energy surrounding and emanating from smart meters that were installed at their homes. How could that electrical bombardment be safe for infants and other sensitive people and animals? Third: I have not yet heard of any bills being lowered as a result of this increased information being available to power companies. I do, however, know people whose power bills increased double and sometimes triple over pre-smart-meter-installation rates. How is that benefitting the whole power issue for humanity? (Except to increase power company profits, of course.)
A 1 BILLION dollar installation invoice will be delivered to us via smart meter. After that, once the flow of money is established, it will be tweaked and given a greenwash.
No NO NO!!.
there is a very interesting video on smart meters at wwwgoldsilver.com/video/smartmeters
No, No and No
Corix was at our home early fall and we refused the smart meter. We then received a phone call from 'the supervisor' who said we were just listening to propaganda and referred us to the BC Hydro website. I asked where I could find the actual research done on smart meters that indicate that the emissions are not harmful to one's health. Of course, there is NOWHERE on BC Hydro's site that will direct you to the research. If you are trying to convince people that smart meters are a good choice and healthy, you need to be able to provide the information that states it is so. I am still waiting for my callback with the site where I can see this research and it has been about 3 months!
If you are in doubt, maybe you want to see what research the World Health Organization (WHO) used to put smart meters into the same hazard category as DDT!!! How long did governments and authoritative groups recommend DDT use for farmers and gardeners? My mother used it in our vegetable garden for pest control! It has now been many years that DDT is not available on the shelves and the research continues on some of the long-term side effects for those who used it. 20 years from now I do not want to be part of a research group they are looking at for the effects of smart meter emissions.
I do not agree with how this project is being executed but I do agree with Smart Meters. The smart meter project is a neccassary step to deal with our disgusting abuse of energy use.
No, I do not support the Smart Meters and never will... They are being forced on us and we have no say so in the matter...
So much for public input. The way it is being handled is nothing but a farce. As a human being, I do not deserve that kind of treatment and should have choices in the matter.
Obviously, I did not proofread the preceding adequately. Never mind the repetitive statement about "public input" – that can bear repetition. But toward the end of the last paragraph, "competing the creation" should, I hope clearly, be "completing the creation" of a global economy which would be a total plutocracy, meaning the rule (the power) of wealth. The absolute rule of wealth. In absolute plutocracy, chances are that only the wealthy are valued as human beings. Everyone else is at best a slave. And the lives of slaves are in themselves worth nothing. Work until you drop, and then get tossed in the incinerator. Except by then we will likely have made Planet Earth uninhabitable anyway.
No means no. I'm tired of government(s) that have no respect for persons, that insist on making decisions which seek to impose drastic measures on us all without any opportunity for public input, without transparency and without provision for input. It has become, both provincially and federally, a case of government by fiat. The election of government remains democratic, but this is democracy in name only. The PROCESS of government has become a process of pro-forma debate (if any) followed by rubber-stamping of policies and legislation governed only by the agenda of the "ruling" party. Whether or not that party represents the views and needs of the general populace.
These Smart Meters are being used as a bludgeon to further the interests of neo-conservative power brokers, both literally and figuratively. These power brokers want, for instance, to build VERY crude oil pipelines through vulnerable ecosystems to fuel industry with increasingly toxic fossil fuel, and yet claim we need Smart Meters to benefit the environment! That is malarkey. We will be billed ever-increasing rates for peak-period electricity consumption. Those peak periods are the times when people need to bathe, cook and wash their dishes and/or laundry to that they can continue to live and function for increasingly meagre wages in a technocratic society which values individual lives the way it values disposable packaging and used batteries. This is all BS aimed at competing the creation of a global economy in which a very few are very wealthy and everyone else sucks hind tit. This is not what we want, nor what we deserve, simply as human beings.
No means No