As long as suffolk horse racing continues or expands at the casino , I believe it would be great for East Boston. For a casino to remain solvent you need a densely populated area (such as East Boston) Also,we all know the many needed jobs that would be created. These jobs would feed the economies of East Boston, Revere and sorounding towns. Its a win win situation. suffolk downs horse racing, no different than other horse racing venues needs a compliment to its exsisting horse racing. That would be the addition of a casino. Horse racing has been around for years and and has been a staple in sports not only in this country but around the world.
Will - 12 years ago
Yes obviously changes to accommodate more traffic will be part of the plan later on... this will not be a simple arrangement I'm sure they have already thought of everything. Why not revive the aging venue of Suffolk? I don't see how this is not the best casino location in MA by FAR
frankie - 12 years ago
u dont want money you guys idiots and u suck
John - 12 years ago
What I meant is don't spend your fun money in CT & R.I.
John - 12 years ago
Everyone complains about what traffic will be like. that is foolish because with the
amount of money to invest don't you think this has been thought through? Wake
up you no voters and keep revenue in MA and CT&RI and soon to be Maine and N.H. in the future!
anjie - 12 years ago
idea sounds like a winner on the surface, but think the residents will lose with... added traffic [streets & rte1A], close proximity to low-income housing [roll down the hill from project dev], ugly crime stats [where casinos exist now] & employment that's temporary &/or consist of entry-level jobs [not jobs for middle-aged seekers]... lest we not forget add'l noise in a community already living with a major freakin' airport [looking to expand]! can we spread this wealth elsewhere?! [in someone else's bkyd] oh, i forgot... the wealthier communities already "bounced" this idea - leaving eastie to deal. geez, thanx!
frankie - 12 years ago
PLEASE VOTE YES IN BOSTON
frankie - 12 years ago
I THINK ITS DEAD DEAL OTHER GUY DONT LIKE TOO BAD U FOOL
frankie - 12 years ago
I THINK ITS HAPPEN TO SUFFOLK DOWNS CASINO IF U DONT SEE HORSETRACK DONT GO U GUYS NEED CASINO ONLY
Norman Sanderson - 12 years ago
I live in metrowest and think the traffic problem in east bostonis not good for a casino.I have worked in that area through the years so know first hand.
Mary Ann - 12 years ago
I think a casino will work at Suffolk Downs, There has been Gambling there for years. It will provide new jobs the unemployment rate will go down. I will bring down the taxes and help upgrade the schools and the community.
Will - 12 years ago
I think this is the best location for a casino. From the looks of the plan it won't even expand the current Suffolk downs footprint much. I'm all for it. History, gaming, good backer, on the T. Perfect in my opinion. Growth in East Boston!
Sarah Wenig - 12 years ago
I am against. Boston must stop persuing and depending on a strategy for growth based on attracting the rich to live or work here and tourism to bring in quick revenues (including parking tickets ad nauseum). It is a disasterous route to take. World class means having a healthy middle and working class within city limits. We need housing, permanent jobs based on the creative and knowledge based economy and those that capture the come-back happening in the manufacturing sector. Casinos take revenues out of the public realm, bring big problems with them and prey on retirees and gambling addicts leading to crime from frauds to robbery and worse. A casino is absolutely NOT the highest and best use of the Land. I think that Revere Beach is a better location.
MB Hoag - 12 years ago
East Boston is not a rich community and is populated a lot by the types of people who are drawn to these venues. The increase in crime and health problems from a "substance" abuse like gambling has to be figured into the equation. AND, yes, Rte 1A cannot handle the traffic. Wrong location.
AJ - 12 years ago
Bad deal, 300 feet from East Taunton Elementary School. Right next to a church and in a residential area.
Plenty of Taunton insiders would benefit financial such as city councilor Ryan Colton's father in law who owns property that the tribe would lease to make way for a second entrance.
AJ - 12 years ago
Bad deal, 300 feet from East Taunton Elementary School. Right next to a church and in a residential area.
Plenty of Taunton insiders would benefit financial such as city councilor Ryan Colton's father in law who owns property that the tribe would lease to make way for a second entrance.
"Foxwoods community crime rate has not changed at all, having many schools within one mile of it."
You are incorrect and you might want to conduct research rather than posting inaccurate information. In addition, Tribal Casinos do not have the same reporting requirements as commercial casinos. Crimes taking place on Sovereign Territory are not reported in the same way as crime in your home town.
The Spectrum Gaming Report prepared for the CT DOSR which surely you have read addressed many of the issues surrounding the Tribal Casinos in Connecticut. The sharp increase in embezzlements and drunk driving were included.
Because the wages offered are so low, they recruited overseas. Because those low wage workers are unable to afford adequate housing, the practice of 'hot bedding' is widespread.
Steve Perskie from the NJ Gambling Commission at the Gambling Commision educational forum:
'Let me make you a promise. Your legislation requires that operators put up a $500m investment. With that kind of money, you can be sure they're going to build an impressive structure with restaurants, bars, nightclubs, shops. Make no mistake: the delicatessan down the street is going to go out of business. The nightclub around the corner is going to go out of business. Nothing the Mass. Casino Commission can do is going to change that.'
This is what Steve Wynn said:
He also said bluntly that the casino, by itself, was not going to solve Bridgeport's economic or social problems.
'Get it straight,' he said. 'I think I know how to bring people to Bridgeport, and keep them coming, but there is no reason on earth for any of you to expect for more than one second that just because there are people here, they're going to run into your store, or restaurant, or bar.
'That didn't happen in Atlantic City,' he said. 'It should never have been promised in Atlantic City. It is illogical to expect that people who won't come to Bridgeport and go to your restaurants or your stores today will go to your restaurants and stores just because we happen to build this building here.'
Great city? I think NOT! Folks need to collect the facts and not the myths.
There are a number of significant issues such as:
Nevada has the lowest high school graduation rate in the country.
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2012/02/nevada-has-lowest-high-school.html
The social fallout is sobering: Nevada has “higher rates of crime, bankruptcy filings, home foreclosures, divorces and suicides than anywhere else in the country.”
One in 16 adults is a pathological gambler, losing nearly four times as much as the average gambler. The suicide rate among seniors in Nevada is three times that of the rest of the country. This makes Las Vegas one of the most dysfunctional communities in America.
Why don’t we hear more about this? Skolnik notes, “When gambling in America brings in about $100 billion a year in profits, good P.R. and rigged studies come easy to help expand the industry.” Highly paid lobbyists and unscrupulous politicians try to minimize the problems.
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2011/10/what-happens-in-vegas-hurts-nc.html
Do we want Florida to be more like Vegas? Nevada has the highest foreclosure and unemployment rates in the U.S. So, if casino gambling is so good for long-term economic growth, why are there no Fortune 500 companies, other than three giant casino companies, headquartered in Nevada?
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2011/10/bust-vegas-style-casinos-would-spell.html
Nevada is No. 1 in unemployment, divorce and violent crime
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2011/12/nevada-is-no-1-in-unemployment-divorce.html
Street crime also has become a problem in many casino cities, including drugs, prostitution and theft. A recent University of Nevada at Las Vegas study found that 60 percent of gambling addicts admitted kiting bad checks while 30 percent copped to stealing from their workplace.
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2011/12/if-you-build-it-corruption-may-come.html
Casino employees qualify for welfare because the wages are so low:
Miki Allard, a spokeswoman for the Nevada Department of Health and Human Services, said: “It may be very appropriate for our public assistance recipients to access benefits from casino machines. A large proportion of our clients work in casinos. They are not there to gamble. They are there to work.”
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2011/12/casino-workers-on-welfare.html
Six percent of Nevada adults are compulsive gamblers, according to statistics from the Nevada Council on Problem Gambling. The national average is between 1 percent and 2 percent.
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2012/01/filling-prisons-with-gambling-addicts.html
Ulli - 12 years ago
People need to not think so much about their personal entertainment. This is not going to be a new Foxwoods with first class restaurants and what not. I keep remembering how horrible the traffic situation alone was when we had the tunnel problems in the Ted Williams tunnel due to the tunnel collapse...so now people want to combine Rt 1A crazy traffic, with commuting traffic, airport traffic, community traffic, car rental services traffic AND a casino.
That's going to be problem.
anonomus - 12 years ago
For anyone that voted no, your all just afraid of nothing. This will inprove our economy and provide hundreds of jobs. Foxwoods community crime rate has not changed at all, having many schools within one mile of it. What we have been doing isnt working, its time to try something new!
Mary - Apples and oranges. Vegas was built around the casinos, and it works better than most places (though not well) because it remains a destination for more than just gambling. In fact, visitors to Vegas are going to spend more on shows and food than gambling. A casino in Boston, on the other hand, will be more like Atlantic City, where casinos were introduced to an already settled area. We won't be a destination, in the same way most AC gamblers are local. (many go 3-5 times a week)
But I also disagree with your general premise, that Vegas is somehow a desirable place to live. Vegas is the epicenter of the most unemployed state in the US. Google "Las Vegas economy." Not pretty.
And 300-400 living under storm drains is never good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlZqaXd0uRg&feature=share
A casino here would be bad news. We need to say no. We can do better.
Steve
noeastiecasino@gmail.com
Mary Goulet - 12 years ago
A few years ago, I had seen a piece on Las Vegas about the impact of the casinos on the community. If you didn.t know the casinos were there, you would never guess when you were out and about in the rest of the community. It is actually a great city to live in And the tax rate has greatly been reduced because of the casinos, Las Vegas actually has some of the best schools in the country.
As long as suffolk horse racing continues or expands at the casino , I believe it would be great for East Boston. For a casino to remain solvent you need a densely populated area (such as East Boston) Also,we all know the many needed jobs that would be created. These jobs would feed the economies of East Boston, Revere and sorounding towns. Its a win win situation. suffolk downs horse racing, no different than other horse racing venues needs a compliment to its exsisting horse racing. That would be the addition of a casino. Horse racing has been around for years and and has been a staple in sports not only in this country but around the world.
Yes obviously changes to accommodate more traffic will be part of the plan later on... this will not be a simple arrangement I'm sure they have already thought of everything. Why not revive the aging venue of Suffolk? I don't see how this is not the best casino location in MA by FAR
u dont want money you guys idiots and u suck
What I meant is don't spend your fun money in CT & R.I.
Everyone complains about what traffic will be like. that is foolish because with the
amount of money to invest don't you think this has been thought through? Wake
up you no voters and keep revenue in MA and CT&RI and soon to be Maine and N.H. in the future!
idea sounds like a winner on the surface, but think the residents will lose with... added traffic [streets & rte1A], close proximity to low-income housing [roll down the hill from project dev], ugly crime stats [where casinos exist now] & employment that's temporary &/or consist of entry-level jobs [not jobs for middle-aged seekers]... lest we not forget add'l noise in a community already living with a major freakin' airport [looking to expand]! can we spread this wealth elsewhere?! [in someone else's bkyd] oh, i forgot... the wealthier communities already "bounced" this idea - leaving eastie to deal. geez, thanx!
PLEASE VOTE YES IN BOSTON
I THINK ITS DEAD DEAL OTHER GUY DONT LIKE TOO BAD U FOOL
I THINK ITS HAPPEN TO SUFFOLK DOWNS CASINO IF U DONT SEE HORSETRACK DONT GO U GUYS NEED CASINO ONLY
I live in metrowest and think the traffic problem in east bostonis not good for a casino.I have worked in that area through the years so know first hand.
I think a casino will work at Suffolk Downs, There has been Gambling there for years. It will provide new jobs the unemployment rate will go down. I will bring down the taxes and help upgrade the schools and the community.
I think this is the best location for a casino. From the looks of the plan it won't even expand the current Suffolk downs footprint much. I'm all for it. History, gaming, good backer, on the T. Perfect in my opinion. Growth in East Boston!
I am against. Boston must stop persuing and depending on a strategy for growth based on attracting the rich to live or work here and tourism to bring in quick revenues (including parking tickets ad nauseum). It is a disasterous route to take. World class means having a healthy middle and working class within city limits. We need housing, permanent jobs based on the creative and knowledge based economy and those that capture the come-back happening in the manufacturing sector. Casinos take revenues out of the public realm, bring big problems with them and prey on retirees and gambling addicts leading to crime from frauds to robbery and worse. A casino is absolutely NOT the highest and best use of the Land. I think that Revere Beach is a better location.
East Boston is not a rich community and is populated a lot by the types of people who are drawn to these venues. The increase in crime and health problems from a "substance" abuse like gambling has to be figured into the equation. AND, yes, Rte 1A cannot handle the traffic. Wrong location.
Bad deal, 300 feet from East Taunton Elementary School. Right next to a church and in a residential area.
Plenty of Taunton insiders would benefit financial such as city councilor Ryan Colton's father in law who owns property that the tribe would lease to make way for a second entrance.
Bad deal, 300 feet from East Taunton Elementary School. Right next to a church and in a residential area.
Plenty of Taunton insiders would benefit financial such as city councilor Ryan Colton's father in law who owns property that the tribe would lease to make way for a second entrance.
To anonomous [sic]:
You wrote:
"Foxwoods community crime rate has not changed at all, having many schools within one mile of it."
You are incorrect and you might want to conduct research rather than posting inaccurate information. In addition, Tribal Casinos do not have the same reporting requirements as commercial casinos. Crimes taking place on Sovereign Territory are not reported in the same way as crime in your home town.
The Spectrum Gaming Report prepared for the CT DOSR which surely you have read addressed many of the issues surrounding the Tribal Casinos in Connecticut. The sharp increase in embezzlements and drunk driving were included.
Because the wages offered are so low, they recruited overseas. Because those low wage workers are unable to afford adequate housing, the practice of 'hot bedding' is widespread.
Let's collect FACTS, not myths.
Of the area in New York surrounding Aqueduct, Genting's recently opened Slot Barn:
Robberies are up 7% so far this year as compared to 2011 and grand larcenies have spiked 39%, the most current NYPD crime figures show.
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2012/06/is-aqueduct-faililng-to-protect-its.html
Steve Perskie from the NJ Gambling Commission at the Gambling Commision educational forum:
'Let me make you a promise. Your legislation requires that operators put up a $500m investment. With that kind of money, you can be sure they're going to build an impressive structure with restaurants, bars, nightclubs, shops. Make no mistake: the delicatessan down the street is going to go out of business. The nightclub around the corner is going to go out of business. Nothing the Mass. Casino Commission can do is going to change that.'
This is what Steve Wynn said:
He also said bluntly that the casino, by itself, was not going to solve Bridgeport's economic or social problems.
'Get it straight,' he said. 'I think I know how to bring people to Bridgeport, and keep them coming, but there is no reason on earth for any of you to expect for more than one second that just because there are people here, they're going to run into your store, or restaurant, or bar.
'That didn't happen in Atlantic City,' he said. 'It should never have been promised in Atlantic City. It is illogical to expect that people who won't come to Bridgeport and go to your restaurants or your stores today will go to your restaurants and stores just because we happen to build this building here.'
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2012/03/wynns-plans-for-bridgeport-ct.html
Great city? I think NOT! Folks need to collect the facts and not the myths.
There are a number of significant issues such as:
Nevada has the lowest high school graduation rate in the country.
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2012/02/nevada-has-lowest-high-school.html
The social fallout is sobering: Nevada has “higher rates of crime, bankruptcy filings, home foreclosures, divorces and suicides than anywhere else in the country.”
One in 16 adults is a pathological gambler, losing nearly four times as much as the average gambler. The suicide rate among seniors in Nevada is three times that of the rest of the country. This makes Las Vegas one of the most dysfunctional communities in America.
Why don’t we hear more about this? Skolnik notes, “When gambling in America brings in about $100 billion a year in profits, good P.R. and rigged studies come easy to help expand the industry.” Highly paid lobbyists and unscrupulous politicians try to minimize the problems.
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2011/10/what-happens-in-vegas-hurts-nc.html
Do we want Florida to be more like Vegas? Nevada has the highest foreclosure and unemployment rates in the U.S. So, if casino gambling is so good for long-term economic growth, why are there no Fortune 500 companies, other than three giant casino companies, headquartered in Nevada?
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2011/10/bust-vegas-style-casinos-would-spell.html
Nevada is No. 1 in unemployment, divorce and violent crime
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2011/12/nevada-is-no-1-in-unemployment-divorce.html
Street crime also has become a problem in many casino cities, including drugs, prostitution and theft. A recent University of Nevada at Las Vegas study found that 60 percent of gambling addicts admitted kiting bad checks while 30 percent copped to stealing from their workplace.
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2011/12/if-you-build-it-corruption-may-come.html
Casino employees qualify for welfare because the wages are so low:
Miki Allard, a spokeswoman for the Nevada Department of Health and Human Services, said: “It may be very appropriate for our public assistance recipients to access benefits from casino machines. A large proportion of our clients work in casinos. They are not there to gamble. They are there to work.”
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2011/12/casino-workers-on-welfare.html
Six percent of Nevada adults are compulsive gamblers, according to statistics from the Nevada Council on Problem Gambling. The national average is between 1 percent and 2 percent.
http://middlebororemembers.blogspot.com/2012/01/filling-prisons-with-gambling-addicts.html
People need to not think so much about their personal entertainment. This is not going to be a new Foxwoods with first class restaurants and what not. I keep remembering how horrible the traffic situation alone was when we had the tunnel problems in the Ted Williams tunnel due to the tunnel collapse...so now people want to combine Rt 1A crazy traffic, with commuting traffic, airport traffic, community traffic, car rental services traffic AND a casino.
That's going to be problem.
For anyone that voted no, your all just afraid of nothing. This will inprove our economy and provide hundreds of jobs. Foxwoods community crime rate has not changed at all, having many schools within one mile of it. What we have been doing isnt working, its time to try something new!
Mary - Apples and oranges. Vegas was built around the casinos, and it works better than most places (though not well) because it remains a destination for more than just gambling. In fact, visitors to Vegas are going to spend more on shows and food than gambling. A casino in Boston, on the other hand, will be more like Atlantic City, where casinos were introduced to an already settled area. We won't be a destination, in the same way most AC gamblers are local. (many go 3-5 times a week)
But I also disagree with your general premise, that Vegas is somehow a desirable place to live. Vegas is the epicenter of the most unemployed state in the US. Google "Las Vegas economy." Not pretty.
And 300-400 living under storm drains is never good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlZqaXd0uRg&feature=share
A casino here would be bad news. We need to say no. We can do better.
Steve
noeastiecasino@gmail.com
A few years ago, I had seen a piece on Las Vegas about the impact of the casinos on the community. If you didn.t know the casinos were there, you would never guess when you were out and about in the rest of the community. It is actually a great city to live in And the tax rate has greatly been reduced because of the casinos, Las Vegas actually has some of the best schools in the country.