This game was going to be debated after the fact from the fishiness leading up to it with the draw and home field drama. Had Seattle won there would be theories that the M.L.S. has favoritism perhaps for the Sounders. I just want things fair and consistant as can be. I don't know what happens after the games if there are reviews and film sessions where the refs get called out in front of their superiors I DON'T KNOW. But the refs are never interviewed to my knowledge and not held accountable that I am aware of. I know they go through game tapes and suspend players for fouls not even seen by the ref.
This isn't sour grapes we had our chances. Overcoming adversity is what victory is all about. We didn't do enough to win that game but I thought we worked way to hard to lose it. -T
Green Beard Guy - 12 years ago
Sigi was right to do it so his players did not have to and take the fine from US Soccer. Regardless of Salazar's performance, there was a lot of frustration with how he called the match, so Sigi was the one to rip him and take the heat. Sigi si a veteran coach and knows exactly what he's doing.
sbyes - 12 years ago
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sbyes - 12 years ago
I think we can all agree that we needed to have put away our PK chances because, clearly if we had we would have a completely different story line here; all of the "USOC Conspiracy" headlines floating around out there now, would have been nothing more than a side note. Having said that, however, the fact still remains that this was a very important match, and unfortunately in this instance, the officiating was so suspect that it was not such a stretch to entertain the idea that there might actually be something to those conspiracy theories after all. I don't necessarily think that Salazar is personally out to get Seattle as many people believe, I just think that he is a referee that likes to exert his influence on whatever match he happens to be officiating. In this case his influence on the game was pretty blatant and in my opinion did need to be called out. I am certain that if KC was on our end of the calls made in that final, Vermes would be saying the same if not worse, as would most of the coaches in the MLS. That is how ridiculous it was. In general I think Sigi does pretty good with not making too many excuses and he certainly didn't need to make excuses this time. Sometimes what sounds like excuses are actually just truthful answers to the questions being asked by the media. This is one of those.
sbyes - 12 years ago
I think we can all agree that we needed to have put away our PK chances because, clearly if we had we would have a completely different story line here; all of the "USOC Conspiracy" headlines floating around out there now, would have been nothing more than a side note. Having said that, however, the fact still remains that this was a very important match, and unfortunately in this instance, the officiating was so suspect that it was not such a stretch to entertain the idea that there might actually be something to those conspiracy theories after all. I don't necessarily think that Salazar is personally out to get Seattle as many people believe, I just think that he is a referee that likes to exert his influence on whatever match he happens to be officiating. In this case his influence on the game was pretty blatant and in my opinion did need to be called out. I am certain that if KC was on our end of the calls made in that final, Vermes would be saying the same if not worse, as would most of the coaches in the MLS. That is how ridiculous it was. In general I think Sigi does pretty good with not making too many excuses and he certainly didn't need to make excuses this time. Sometimes what sounds like excuses are actually just truthful answers to the questions being asked by the media. This is one of those.
Josephine B. - 12 years ago
I applaud Sigi for calling a spade a spade.
Salazar is well known (to Seattle fans) as a very inconsistent ref. I've always noticed that Salazar has a tendency to make calls against Seattle but then ignore the other team when they commit the same types of fouls. Therefore, I can't say that I'm surprised by his actions on Wednesday.
Too bad we didn't make those last PKs!
Scott Bailey - 12 years ago
These type of fouls in soccer are all subjective, unlike fouls in other sports and there is no instant replay. Refs in soccer have to be consistent in their calls. I don't feel there was consistency in that game. That said, we should have made our penalty kicks.
This game was going to be debated after the fact from the fishiness leading up to it with the draw and home field drama. Had Seattle won there would be theories that the M.L.S. has favoritism perhaps for the Sounders. I just want things fair and consistant as can be. I don't know what happens after the games if there are reviews and film sessions where the refs get called out in front of their superiors I DON'T KNOW. But the refs are never interviewed to my knowledge and not held accountable that I am aware of. I know they go through game tapes and suspend players for fouls not even seen by the ref.
This isn't sour grapes we had our chances. Overcoming adversity is what victory is all about. We didn't do enough to win that game but I thought we worked way to hard to lose it. -T
Sigi was right to do it so his players did not have to and take the fine from US Soccer. Regardless of Salazar's performance, there was a lot of frustration with how he called the match, so Sigi was the one to rip him and take the heat. Sigi si a veteran coach and knows exactly what he's doing.
...sorry for the double post. Browser or user error. Not sure which
I think we can all agree that we needed to have put away our PK chances because, clearly if we had we would have a completely different story line here; all of the "USOC Conspiracy" headlines floating around out there now, would have been nothing more than a side note. Having said that, however, the fact still remains that this was a very important match, and unfortunately in this instance, the officiating was so suspect that it was not such a stretch to entertain the idea that there might actually be something to those conspiracy theories after all. I don't necessarily think that Salazar is personally out to get Seattle as many people believe, I just think that he is a referee that likes to exert his influence on whatever match he happens to be officiating. In this case his influence on the game was pretty blatant and in my opinion did need to be called out. I am certain that if KC was on our end of the calls made in that final, Vermes would be saying the same if not worse, as would most of the coaches in the MLS. That is how ridiculous it was. In general I think Sigi does pretty good with not making too many excuses and he certainly didn't need to make excuses this time. Sometimes what sounds like excuses are actually just truthful answers to the questions being asked by the media. This is one of those.
I think we can all agree that we needed to have put away our PK chances because, clearly if we had we would have a completely different story line here; all of the "USOC Conspiracy" headlines floating around out there now, would have been nothing more than a side note. Having said that, however, the fact still remains that this was a very important match, and unfortunately in this instance, the officiating was so suspect that it was not such a stretch to entertain the idea that there might actually be something to those conspiracy theories after all. I don't necessarily think that Salazar is personally out to get Seattle as many people believe, I just think that he is a referee that likes to exert his influence on whatever match he happens to be officiating. In this case his influence on the game was pretty blatant and in my opinion did need to be called out. I am certain that if KC was on our end of the calls made in that final, Vermes would be saying the same if not worse, as would most of the coaches in the MLS. That is how ridiculous it was. In general I think Sigi does pretty good with not making too many excuses and he certainly didn't need to make excuses this time. Sometimes what sounds like excuses are actually just truthful answers to the questions being asked by the media. This is one of those.
I applaud Sigi for calling a spade a spade.
Salazar is well known (to Seattle fans) as a very inconsistent ref. I've always noticed that Salazar has a tendency to make calls against Seattle but then ignore the other team when they commit the same types of fouls. Therefore, I can't say that I'm surprised by his actions on Wednesday.
Too bad we didn't make those last PKs!
These type of fouls in soccer are all subjective, unlike fouls in other sports and there is no instant replay. Refs in soccer have to be consistent in their calls. I don't feel there was consistency in that game. That said, we should have made our penalty kicks.