I thought this was 100% electric bike I would prefer e-bike 54 horse power not needed. One comment said it was gas burner. Which is old tec from early 19th century. Burners are junk made pretty. JUST BECAUSE THE OIL COMPANY HAVE BIG MONEY SHOULD NOT ALLOW YOU TO BE CONTROLLED BY THEM AND STUCK WITH OLD TEC BECAUSE IT IS IN THEIR SELVE INTEREST. IN 1993 THE GM EV1 WAS SO POPULAR IN CALIFORNIA PEOPLE HAND GOFFED THEMSELFES TO THE CAR TO SYOP BIG OIL FROM BEINGB DEPENDED ON THEIR WAYS OF MOVING.
SHOW ME ONLY E-BIKE CAUSE INSURANCE IS OUT OF CONTROL
MadMike - 12 years ago
Peter, although I take your point your "argument" is flawed. Like you I started on a Bantam some 50 years ago, and have ridden many bikes from the period 1950 to 2012. The so called superbikes are only the result of our clever engineers making it posilbe to burn more carbon based fuel faster. the basic engines are frnkly no more efficient now than your Bantam. The internal combustion engine wastes about 70 to 75% of its produced energy as heat and noise.
In order to move forward we really do have to have an alternative energy source. Batteries are simply not the answer with all known 21st century technology unfortunately. Our scientist have failed miserably to fing a real alternative to carbon fuels. Electric and hybrid engined vehicles are merely a stop gap, a compromise and not a solution.
Flux capacitor? Warp drive? Hydrogen fuel cells? Nuclear power? Solar power? The list is endless in terms of known power sources and Sci-fi power sources. I just hope somebody finds an answer before it is too late.
Sorry to go on a bit. My last missive on this one I think.
Peter Ford - 12 years ago
The way modern technology has progressed over the last 25 years ,the way bikes have progressed over the last 10 years ,who would have thought when I was 16 and riding a little BSA Bantam that 50 years later I'm asride a 1000cc 150hp superbike, I did not think for one moment at that time just what the future held, patience my friend's patience ,now where did I leave that flux capacitor .
MadMike - 12 years ago
The electric bike is not the answer unless there is a major shift in battery technology. A range of 100 or 125 miles is woefully inadequate. How would I get home from Brands Hatch to Leicestershire after BSB next weekend? With petrol you can refuel in 5 minutes and resume your journey. The laws of physics do not allow that convenience when recharging a battery, and how would the National Grid cope with overnight rechargong of millions of batteries?
What is needed is some really radical thinking about an alternative practical power source. In addition to the practical considerations regarding range and recharge times we must be aware of the cost to the planet in making the batteries. Expensive rare metals, massive energy consumption during manufacture usually using carbon based fuels and the cost of disposal are all major problems to be overcome. I doubt you will be able to take your old batteries to your local council tip, and what cost will there be for replacements. Battery life will also be a major implication. Undoubtedly many have suffered a battery failure overnight during a cold winter.
The fact that "electric racing bikes" manage only one lap of the Isle of Man circuit says it all. We need an alternative power source rather that simply using rechargeable batteries.
I thought this was 100% electric bike I would prefer e-bike 54 horse power not needed. One comment said it was gas burner. Which is old tec from early 19th century. Burners are junk made pretty. JUST BECAUSE THE OIL COMPANY HAVE BIG MONEY SHOULD NOT ALLOW YOU TO BE CONTROLLED BY THEM AND STUCK WITH OLD TEC BECAUSE IT IS IN THEIR SELVE INTEREST. IN 1993 THE GM EV1 WAS SO POPULAR IN CALIFORNIA PEOPLE HAND GOFFED THEMSELFES TO THE CAR TO SYOP BIG OIL FROM BEINGB DEPENDED ON THEIR WAYS OF MOVING.
SHOW ME ONLY E-BIKE CAUSE INSURANCE IS OUT OF CONTROL
Peter, although I take your point your "argument" is flawed. Like you I started on a Bantam some 50 years ago, and have ridden many bikes from the period 1950 to 2012. The so called superbikes are only the result of our clever engineers making it posilbe to burn more carbon based fuel faster. the basic engines are frnkly no more efficient now than your Bantam. The internal combustion engine wastes about 70 to 75% of its produced energy as heat and noise.
In order to move forward we really do have to have an alternative energy source. Batteries are simply not the answer with all known 21st century technology unfortunately. Our scientist have failed miserably to fing a real alternative to carbon fuels. Electric and hybrid engined vehicles are merely a stop gap, a compromise and not a solution.
Flux capacitor? Warp drive? Hydrogen fuel cells? Nuclear power? Solar power? The list is endless in terms of known power sources and Sci-fi power sources. I just hope somebody finds an answer before it is too late.
Sorry to go on a bit. My last missive on this one I think.
The way modern technology has progressed over the last 25 years ,the way bikes have progressed over the last 10 years ,who would have thought when I was 16 and riding a little BSA Bantam that 50 years later I'm asride a 1000cc 150hp superbike, I did not think for one moment at that time just what the future held, patience my friend's patience ,now where did I leave that flux capacitor .
The electric bike is not the answer unless there is a major shift in battery technology. A range of 100 or 125 miles is woefully inadequate. How would I get home from Brands Hatch to Leicestershire after BSB next weekend? With petrol you can refuel in 5 minutes and resume your journey. The laws of physics do not allow that convenience when recharging a battery, and how would the National Grid cope with overnight rechargong of millions of batteries?
What is needed is some really radical thinking about an alternative practical power source. In addition to the practical considerations regarding range and recharge times we must be aware of the cost to the planet in making the batteries. Expensive rare metals, massive energy consumption during manufacture usually using carbon based fuels and the cost of disposal are all major problems to be overcome. I doubt you will be able to take your old batteries to your local council tip, and what cost will there be for replacements. Battery life will also be a major implication. Undoubtedly many have suffered a battery failure overnight during a cold winter.
The fact that "electric racing bikes" manage only one lap of the Isle of Man circuit says it all. We need an alternative power source rather that simply using rechargeable batteries.
This may help bust a few electric myths
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YfTiRNzbSko
Check out the 2013 Zero S and FS, i think it may help you change your minds....