If ONLY apple would add that full bluetooth stack, so it could be used for network access over bluetooth for my laptop (like ANY other mobile phone allows), stream audio, act as a universal remote, and communicate with other devices, ... WHY is this not implemented, is it not just a matter of a little bit of software already available, deliberately being excluded.. Its a terrible loss. ...and then theres that 2MP cam.. but other than that its surely innovative, and I'll have to have it, though that bluetooth stack issue annoys me so much, and I hope you all complain to apple about it.
The underlying factor around the amount of debate and excitement the 3G iphone has received mostly shows how great a company Apple are at marketing a solid product IMHO. From there it's just the Pepsi, Coca-cola debate.
Andre Cymbalista - 16 years ago
As everything that Apple does, it is the ease of use and the consistency of the interface what matters most to me. I just can't get my head around the non-standard interfaces that are commonly found in most of the phones on the market. I have never been interested in choosing a mobile phone up to now - all of them seamed to be more or less the same - I just had to get used to stupid interfaces when I changed mobile phones every three years or so. Now it seems that I have a good choice of interface available, one that I am familiar with, one that evolves consistently, and one that is consistent with what I use in my computer.
Strange - 16 years ago
Honestly, iPhone 2.0 should have been the first one released.
The lack of 3g in the original was a complete scam, aimed at hooking early adopters w/ dreams of internet joy.
It worked fine on wifi, but you didn't have to pay 50+ bucks a month for wifi, did you? You paid for a craptastic ATT data network.
Apple intentionally gimped v1, and now rolls out v2 like it's the second coming?
I just hope all the apple cultists are happy with it, since the way Apple's been mugging them lately, there may be no way out later on.
Glenn - 16 years ago
I couldn't figure out what all the to-do was about. Apple release version 2 of their phone and the whole was held rapt in eager anticipation, as if some momentus event was about to unfold.
It may be a great phone but it's still Just a Phone and yesterday was a big yawn - just another WWDC.
xman - 16 years ago
Ashraf is exactly right. The user experience is the revolution. And it is a revolution. Remember :
"convenient is better than better"
Ashraf Tawakkol - 16 years ago
Well for first, I don't agree with Raph opinion at all. A product doesn't need to be a complete new invention to be revolutionary. Come on we are in the Tech / digital age where patents and technological advances are every where. Now the room might be small if any, for completely new breakthroughs and inventions, and lets ask the question another way Raph, what is a revolutionary mobile phone in your opinion??? is the new morph thing from Nokia?? Is it the sleek new looks from Samsung / LG?? These guys - and specially Nokia whom I really respect and like their products - have not released any thing near new to their phones for years!! S60 2nd edition, no it S60 3rd edition, for me or you not as tech savvy people but for consumers how bloody cares??? these new version actually if you look at them closely only contributed to changing a once easy and pleasure to use device to a more complicated, feature crowded and clumsy product - and theses are like the mobile phone gods right?? not a small company and actually owning around 40% of the market share????????!!!!! I'm not writing this comment to disregard Nokia or lesser their contribution to this industry and just wow for Apple, on the contrary, I do respect Nokia's efforts and as a consumer, would actually like to see it adding more. I just want to make a point that we are talking about INNOVATION and NOT INVENTION. If you look at it from this perspective you will realize that the iPhone is some how a revolutionary INNOVATION, where Apple really did a great job making a Phone with almost all of the wanted features in an average smart phone but extremely easy to use and extraordinary USER FRIENDLY. Yes as Interaction Designers with all who used the phone that I know of and asked them what they feel, they didn't say first it lack this feature, but rather they say, "well I'm now using almost every single feature on my phone, it's really fun, I rarely did any thing more than calling and texting with my old Phone (be it a Nokia, Samsung,...), I never used my Calendar on the old phone, I'm using it now."
Well so I believe that Apple had succeeded to give every iPhone user a unique and extraordinary USER EXPERIENCE, and that is what I call revolutionary, and after all isn't the CE (consumer Electronics Industry) all about great User Experiences??
Cassy Rowe - 16 years ago
The only thing, IMHO, that makes the iPhone revolutionary it's the interface. That is the thing that I awe over, and anyone who uses mine awes over like a jealous baby looking at a rattle that plays music when it shakes.
If ONLY apple would add that full bluetooth stack, so it could be used for network access over bluetooth for my laptop (like ANY other mobile phone allows), stream audio, act as a universal remote, and communicate with other devices, ... WHY is this not implemented, is it not just a matter of a little bit of software already available, deliberately being excluded.. Its a terrible loss. ...and then theres that 2MP cam.. but other than that its surely innovative, and I'll have to have it, though that bluetooth stack issue annoys me so much, and I hope you all complain to apple about it.
The underlying factor around the amount of debate and excitement the 3G iphone has received mostly shows how great a company Apple are at marketing a solid product IMHO. From there it's just the Pepsi, Coca-cola debate.
As everything that Apple does, it is the ease of use and the consistency of the interface what matters most to me. I just can't get my head around the non-standard interfaces that are commonly found in most of the phones on the market. I have never been interested in choosing a mobile phone up to now - all of them seamed to be more or less the same - I just had to get used to stupid interfaces when I changed mobile phones every three years or so. Now it seems that I have a good choice of interface available, one that I am familiar with, one that evolves consistently, and one that is consistent with what I use in my computer.
Honestly, iPhone 2.0 should have been the first one released.
The lack of 3g in the original was a complete scam, aimed at hooking early adopters w/ dreams of internet joy.
It worked fine on wifi, but you didn't have to pay 50+ bucks a month for wifi, did you? You paid for a craptastic ATT data network.
Apple intentionally gimped v1, and now rolls out v2 like it's the second coming?
I just hope all the apple cultists are happy with it, since the way Apple's been mugging them lately, there may be no way out later on.
I couldn't figure out what all the to-do was about. Apple release version 2 of their phone and the whole was held rapt in eager anticipation, as if some momentus event was about to unfold.
It may be a great phone but it's still Just a Phone and yesterday was a big yawn - just another WWDC.
Ashraf is exactly right. The user experience is the revolution. And it is a revolution. Remember :
"convenient is better than better"
Well for first, I don't agree with Raph opinion at all. A product doesn't need to be a complete new invention to be revolutionary. Come on we are in the Tech / digital age where patents and technological advances are every where. Now the room might be small if any, for completely new breakthroughs and inventions, and lets ask the question another way Raph, what is a revolutionary mobile phone in your opinion??? is the new morph thing from Nokia?? Is it the sleek new looks from Samsung / LG?? These guys - and specially Nokia whom I really respect and like their products - have not released any thing near new to their phones for years!! S60 2nd edition, no it S60 3rd edition, for me or you not as tech savvy people but for consumers how bloody cares??? these new version actually if you look at them closely only contributed to changing a once easy and pleasure to use device to a more complicated, feature crowded and clumsy product - and theses are like the mobile phone gods right?? not a small company and actually owning around 40% of the market share????????!!!!! I'm not writing this comment to disregard Nokia or lesser their contribution to this industry and just wow for Apple, on the contrary, I do respect Nokia's efforts and as a consumer, would actually like to see it adding more. I just want to make a point that we are talking about INNOVATION and NOT INVENTION. If you look at it from this perspective you will realize that the iPhone is some how a revolutionary INNOVATION, where Apple really did a great job making a Phone with almost all of the wanted features in an average smart phone but extremely easy to use and extraordinary USER FRIENDLY. Yes as Interaction Designers with all who used the phone that I know of and asked them what they feel, they didn't say first it lack this feature, but rather they say, "well I'm now using almost every single feature on my phone, it's really fun, I rarely did any thing more than calling and texting with my old Phone (be it a Nokia, Samsung,...), I never used my Calendar on the old phone, I'm using it now."
Well so I believe that Apple had succeeded to give every iPhone user a unique and extraordinary USER EXPERIENCE, and that is what I call revolutionary, and after all isn't the CE (consumer Electronics Industry) all about great User Experiences??
The only thing, IMHO, that makes the iPhone revolutionary it's the interface. That is the thing that I awe over, and anyone who uses mine awes over like a jealous baby looking at a rattle that plays music when it shakes.