There are 5,000 employee's that would be out of a JOB. There are 660 stores in Pennsylvania. I work for the PLCB and they have come a long way to make the stores a nicers place to shop. We have went to Wine Classes and know the products as to what We are selling. If some one else should take the stores over they will not know much about Wines like We do. And We don't want Wine & Spirits to get in the Wrong Hands as to 18,19,20 years old's cause they won't ask for I.D.they will Sell the Bottle cause they have to pay rent for there store and won't care. And Prices won't be cheater cause the State will still be controlled on the Goods. We DO NOT NEED OUR WORKERS TO BE UNEMPLOYED. WE HAVE FAMILIES TOO..........
michael - 11 years ago
one only needs to look at washington state to see how this will fail here. selection a tiny bet better and much higher prices. it's a failure of epic proportions waiting to happen.
Apryl - 11 years ago
It seems strange that so many people come from Ohio to PA to buy alcohol because its to expensive there and they have to travel to far to find a State Store. Dont think it will be any cheaper and the selection will be less. Walgreens and Wal-Mart will be the prime sellers...with a selection of two isles.
Dick - 11 years ago
This long overdue. The current system is inconvenient and maintains high prices forcing many to cross into other states to make their purchases. Let's move out of the dark ages on this and into the 21st century.
Charles - 11 years ago
Current state liquor store clerks should find their shelf-stocking and register-operation skills easily transferable to the private sector, although perhaps at a more reasonable salary and with more effort required.
Eric - 11 years ago
Long, long overdue. Surrounding states have much better selection, convenience, and fair competition which means the best price for the consumer. Don't believe me? Go look up "Total Wine" on google. Just one of a hundred stores that put our antiquated system to shame. PS spare me the job loss crap. The only loss will be the bloated salaries and the ridiculous pensions for tor the public sector unions that are crippling our state/country.
Charles - 11 years ago
Beer distributors have bought and paid for the Legislature for decades. Their business is a monopoly with no need to be responsive to the consumer. Most of these "businesses" are filthy ratholes. West Lawn beverages, cited in the article, has no real separation between the beer sales area and the can recycling business.
A case of beer is too much at one time for many people, and very few women are willing to go to a bar to buy a six-pack.
Rob - 11 years ago
A move towards privatizing PA liquor store will also help out the “little guys” with their local wineries. Also, how nice would it be to order something from another State “if need be” and have it shipped to you LEGALLY!!! Having “some” stores open on Sundays has made the dreadful process a little easier… however you really don’t get great selections unless you are able to go to one of PA’s Chairman Select Stores.
Wm Carl - 11 years ago
I am of two minds on this. While I think the current system totally bizarre-- state stores for hard stuff and wine, beer distributors for no less than a case or kegs, bars for no more than two six packs, there are family businesses that are based on this model. Is it fair to them to scrap a system that has been in place since 1933? The problem is that we had a "dry" governor when the 21st Amendment was passed.
Charles - 11 years ago
The problem is not just the liquor store clerks union, but a hardcore of religious extremists who would prefer that we still had Prohibition. As a Conservative and registered Republican, I sincerely hope that the Republican legislature takes action to give the people of Pennsylvania the choices that they deserve, instead of maintaining a corrupt monopoly.
This comment is being provided from California, where we can go to the local supermarket (or Sam's Club or Costco) and buy from a large selection of liquor, wine, and beer at prices about 30% below those in Pennsylvania.
As for beer distributors, most of them are filthy garages unfit to sell a product intended for human consumption.
William Meek - 11 years ago
Pennsylvania is one of only two states that still are in the liquor business (the other is Utah). This relic from prohibition must be exterminated. It is not the role of state government to sell whiskey! I hope the Retail Clerk's Union does not block this progress (again). Forty-eight other states cannot all be wrong.
Randy - 11 years ago
...and we replace the lost revenue where? Hmm; lost jobs, lost revenue, more budget cuts. Yea
joseph loren - 11 years ago
This is an important concept and long time in coming. It gives the consumer an opportunity to shop conveniently as well as making prices competitive. It is in 48 states out of the 50.
Hope our leaders understand this important vote.
Don - 11 years ago
Not only will selction increase but price will go down and we will have employees that can answer questions and make recomendations about wine rather than just stock shelves.
Fern Hodgkins - 11 years ago
Another of Corbett's union-busting plans. This will put several hundred more people out of work. Along with the Lottery privatization, he will have added about 500 - 600 people on the unemployment roles if he succeeds.
Debbie Wayman - 11 years ago
I will continue to shop out of state since PA doesn't sell the wine I like from the south.
Patricia Conrow - 11 years ago
I think it's great. In most states this is the norm anyways. It's very convenient to do one stop shopping and the chance of getting different wines from different locations is enticing.
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There are 5,000 employee's that would be out of a JOB. There are 660 stores in Pennsylvania. I work for the PLCB and they have come a long way to make the stores a nicers place to shop. We have went to Wine Classes and know the products as to what We are selling. If some one else should take the stores over they will not know much about Wines like We do. And We don't want Wine & Spirits to get in the Wrong Hands as to 18,19,20 years old's cause they won't ask for I.D.they will Sell the Bottle cause they have to pay rent for there store and won't care. And Prices won't be cheater cause the State will still be controlled on the Goods. We DO NOT NEED OUR WORKERS TO BE UNEMPLOYED. WE HAVE FAMILIES TOO..........
one only needs to look at washington state to see how this will fail here. selection a tiny bet better and much higher prices. it's a failure of epic proportions waiting to happen.
It seems strange that so many people come from Ohio to PA to buy alcohol because its to expensive there and they have to travel to far to find a State Store. Dont think it will be any cheaper and the selection will be less. Walgreens and Wal-Mart will be the prime sellers...with a selection of two isles.
This long overdue. The current system is inconvenient and maintains high prices forcing many to cross into other states to make their purchases. Let's move out of the dark ages on this and into the 21st century.
Current state liquor store clerks should find their shelf-stocking and register-operation skills easily transferable to the private sector, although perhaps at a more reasonable salary and with more effort required.
Long, long overdue. Surrounding states have much better selection, convenience, and fair competition which means the best price for the consumer. Don't believe me? Go look up "Total Wine" on google. Just one of a hundred stores that put our antiquated system to shame. PS spare me the job loss crap. The only loss will be the bloated salaries and the ridiculous pensions for tor the public sector unions that are crippling our state/country.
Beer distributors have bought and paid for the Legislature for decades. Their business is a monopoly with no need to be responsive to the consumer. Most of these "businesses" are filthy ratholes. West Lawn beverages, cited in the article, has no real separation between the beer sales area and the can recycling business.
A case of beer is too much at one time for many people, and very few women are willing to go to a bar to buy a six-pack.
A move towards privatizing PA liquor store will also help out the “little guys” with their local wineries. Also, how nice would it be to order something from another State “if need be” and have it shipped to you LEGALLY!!! Having “some” stores open on Sundays has made the dreadful process a little easier… however you really don’t get great selections unless you are able to go to one of PA’s Chairman Select Stores.
I am of two minds on this. While I think the current system totally bizarre-- state stores for hard stuff and wine, beer distributors for no less than a case or kegs, bars for no more than two six packs, there are family businesses that are based on this model. Is it fair to them to scrap a system that has been in place since 1933? The problem is that we had a "dry" governor when the 21st Amendment was passed.
The problem is not just the liquor store clerks union, but a hardcore of religious extremists who would prefer that we still had Prohibition. As a Conservative and registered Republican, I sincerely hope that the Republican legislature takes action to give the people of Pennsylvania the choices that they deserve, instead of maintaining a corrupt monopoly.
This comment is being provided from California, where we can go to the local supermarket (or Sam's Club or Costco) and buy from a large selection of liquor, wine, and beer at prices about 30% below those in Pennsylvania.
As for beer distributors, most of them are filthy garages unfit to sell a product intended for human consumption.
Pennsylvania is one of only two states that still are in the liquor business (the other is Utah). This relic from prohibition must be exterminated. It is not the role of state government to sell whiskey! I hope the Retail Clerk's Union does not block this progress (again). Forty-eight other states cannot all be wrong.
...and we replace the lost revenue where? Hmm; lost jobs, lost revenue, more budget cuts. Yea
This is an important concept and long time in coming. It gives the consumer an opportunity to shop conveniently as well as making prices competitive. It is in 48 states out of the 50.
Hope our leaders understand this important vote.
Not only will selction increase but price will go down and we will have employees that can answer questions and make recomendations about wine rather than just stock shelves.
Another of Corbett's union-busting plans. This will put several hundred more people out of work. Along with the Lottery privatization, he will have added about 500 - 600 people on the unemployment roles if he succeeds.
I will continue to shop out of state since PA doesn't sell the wine I like from the south.
I think it's great. In most states this is the norm anyways. It's very convenient to do one stop shopping and the chance of getting different wines from different locations is enticing.