Well, I voted for last variant, but only in hope it will be about giving _real_ choice in 'studying human stuff' first, and then real choice to leave humans at all, if desired by non-human. Just like in this wrongly forgotten plan:
http://www.whales.org.au/published/levasseur/levass3a.html
Main points:
1) Changes in the way we teach our stuff (language, in this case) - instead of one-way force-feeding via operant conditioning, as nearly universally done today - much more natural learning by observation, _without_ hunger as motivator, _any_ hunger.
2) Dolphins are free to leave, but before they have fair chance to explore area alongside with humans. They also free to say (in direct sense!) whatever they want, or even opt out of this language stuff, and do it differently.
So, this is well-researched plan (I've checked attached list of sources - sometimes it was easier to find new-ish paper on the 'net first, from same author. I also read a lot of scientific and popular literature about ape and dolphin cognition and language experiments - for very good popular trilogy I highly recommend Eugene Linden's "Apes, Men and Language", "Education of Koko", "Silent Partners") - but completely forgotten, even ignored by today's mainstream free-a-dolphin movement!
Intomorrow - 11 years ago
Apes and dolphins in zoos should be cognitively enhanced and given a choice. A choice is always best unless it is an obviously bad choice.
dutchcon - 11 years ago
No, for some of them it is the only way to survive as a species.
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Well, I voted for last variant, but only in hope it will be about giving _real_ choice in 'studying human stuff' first, and then real choice to leave humans at all, if desired by non-human. Just like in this wrongly forgotten plan:
http://www.whales.org.au/published/levasseur/levass3a.html
Main points:
1) Changes in the way we teach our stuff (language, in this case) - instead of one-way force-feeding via operant conditioning, as nearly universally done today - much more natural learning by observation, _without_ hunger as motivator, _any_ hunger.
2) Dolphins are free to leave, but before they have fair chance to explore area alongside with humans. They also free to say (in direct sense!) whatever they want, or even opt out of this language stuff, and do it differently.
So, this is well-researched plan (I've checked attached list of sources - sometimes it was easier to find new-ish paper on the 'net first, from same author. I also read a lot of scientific and popular literature about ape and dolphin cognition and language experiments - for very good popular trilogy I highly recommend Eugene Linden's "Apes, Men and Language", "Education of Koko", "Silent Partners") - but completely forgotten, even ignored by today's mainstream free-a-dolphin movement!
Apes and dolphins in zoos should be cognitively enhanced and given a choice. A choice is always best unless it is an obviously bad choice.
No, for some of them it is the only way to survive as a species.