@Whatever Overanalization? Character growth and characterization as you put it, was pretty obvious to many. And pretty enjoyable too in a "I'm touched" sort of way. Example: Fluttershy standing up to Iron Will without losing her being Fluttershy. I am in no way going to deny that Fluttershy turning into Flutterbat was not uber-fun to watch. In the contrary it was outstanding! I actually want to make a fanart of a bunch of stallions lining up on the side of the road wearing apple-garlands around their necks as Fluttershy does her groceries. Now, move on to the next poll please. There is a big discrepancy/inconsistency between the qualities that the franchise symbolize and the qualities that some comments have in this poll.
Hmmm, you guys notice that there is a lot of fanservice and nods from the animators and Hasbro in S4? First there is Flutterbat which is a nod from the animators and Hasbro that they know that bat-ponies are very popular with the fandom since "Luna Eclipsed." And now there is a nod at the "Ponylicious" series, particularly Applebloom singing and almost finishing her Applebloom-licious song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_oZ6YUG8IA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wblE8YYLyQ0
MM - 10 years ago
@Mojo Stop insulting my favorite pony, pinkie pie and AJ were both AWESOME in this episode, and they both learned a valuable lesson, pinkie is not mess, you guys are just too blinded by your hatred to pinke to see how great of a character she is. I said it once and I'm gonna say it agian you people make me sick.
Mojo - 10 years ago
@MM That Pinkie is still a mess of a character at the moment but AJ is pretty damn cool.
MM - 10 years ago
Pinkie apple pie is my favorite season 4 episode so far, it was so AAAAAWWWWWEEEEEESSSSSOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, what do you think of Pinki Pie and AJ now.
Mojo - 10 years ago
@whatever Im sorry you care absolutely nothing for quality of writing.
Whatever - 10 years ago
Jeez, your stupid "character growth" and "characterization" does not always equal actual enjoyment. I voted for the one I had the most fun watching, and none of your wannabe overanalizations gonna change it. There I said it, nobody cares.
Mojo - 10 years ago
When is this poll going to end?
Aidan - 10 years ago
@ Nicolas M.
Me too, Discord is back to his sarcastic, witty self as we saw in Return of Harmony :-þ
James Rye - 10 years ago
Woha woha woha, Fluttershy tops Rarity? Seriously, bronydom, seriously? A body transformation IS NOT a character growth! Ah wahtever...
muuzabt - 10 years ago
end it please. my respect for fluttershy fans decrease every minute...
SqueakyWheelz - 10 years ago
Fluttershy's only topping the poll because of Flutterbat. That's fine and everything but I think Applejack has stood out this season. She's moved up from 5th to 2nd for me overall and definitely 1st for this season. (Sorry Twi, but you jumped on a bandwagon in Bats! and all your alicorn princess power couldn't even get you a cab in Rarity Takes Manehattan.)
@NN Of course I watched the show. And sure everybody knows that the lesson is about not letting anyone peer-pressure you into anything, even if they are friends. That's just stating the obvious. It's stated in the end of the episode as Spike writes it down in their journal so its a no-brainer.
But if you truly watched the show, you'd see the not-so-obvious lesson. And that has something to do with AppleJack regretting her actions and doing a self-sacrifice. In the end, though it was a price to pay, she paid it - sacrifice a win in the Appleloosa fair for the sake of Fluttershy.
MM - 10 years ago
To all the cheaters: is it really worth it?
Obsidian Sky - 10 years ago
Hmpf... Im just going to ignore the polls from now on if they are really so easy to manipulate. Even if Rarity would win, which i would like because i liked her the most this season, i don't want her to win just because someone proxyvoted for her, and i guess the same is true for the most other fans and their favorites. Makes these polls completely pointless if they just show who can proxyvote the most.
Matthew Kelly - 10 years ago
@buu Well, it is impartial. I loved Fluttershy's moments this season, though Twilight would be a close second. The whole point of this poll is to see which character did you enjoy seeing most, and which character was enjoyed the most in the fandom. In order to be completely accurate, nearly everyone has to vote, including everyone who liked Fluttershy the most this season.
NN - 10 years ago
@VGI Did you even watch the episode? Fluttershy's lesson in Bats! was not let semeone pressure you into doing something that you don't think is right, even if everyone is against you. Seems like flutterbat was awesome it overshadows literally everything.
Tyler Blu Gunderson - 10 years ago
Wow as much as I like Fluttershy I seriously don't think she should be winning this.
I honestly think Applejack or Rainbow Dash should be up there.
Pinkie Pie hasn't really gotten to do anything up until this point and Twilight's been Meh. Rarity has been pretty good and Fluttershy has only been visually appealing so far. She's more of a all flash no substance character.
MM - 10 years ago
OK This is getting ridiculous, just end this poll already.
zoameldar - 10 years ago
@popo I see you don't understand. People cheat for all characters, but for fluttershy is too oblivious. And ofc some people will get and at this and "repair" the poll.
popo - 10 years ago
This sucks. The question is best main character OF THE SEASON SO FAR. What has Rarity done? Apart from the last episode, she has done nothing. She has barely said anything in the episodes. What has FLuttershy done? Well she has certainly entertained us with her transformations and shit but nothing else. Rainbow Dash has been best to me although they made her look like some freaky fan in the Daring don't ep, but she has grown a lot and we´ve seen it SO FAR. I think Princess Twilight should be worst becouse SO FAR we haven't seen any progress of her, she hasn't even flown once.
So rarifans, stop complaining about your precious character not wining one poll, and stop saying flutterfans are cheating becouse from my point of view, both fans are. This is so childish.
zoameldar - 10 years ago
I think we can call it draw, because: Rarity win whole poll (everyone know it), and till last few hours, where magically fluttershy gets lead with mass number of new votes. Now it is some motherfucking proxy war, and you know what? If you wanna flutter win so bad, fuck it. Go ahead. Generosity people...
Personaly i don't know if ep 8 or 7, because if someone feel that 7 have more value lesson Im ok with this. But episode 8 was so true, it hurts.
Rockpath5 - 10 years ago
@ Kid A Careful, the fun police are always watching. This shit is serious business. Someone could be hurt if you have the wrong opinion about their favorite cartoon character.
Rockpath5 - 10 years ago
Really it was always close enough that there was no clear winner. When you have all of those other candidates the votes can go to, you've got to call a statistical draw if the leading ones are less than 3% apart.
@Somebrony
True, "Bats" do have some solid moral lessons too, but thing is, the moral of the lesson is not directed towards one pony only.
If I were to choose a character to vote for based on "Bats!" I would have to make at least 2 votes; one for Fluttershy and one for AppleJack. But if I can only make one vote based on "Bats!" I would have to go for AppleJack because of the regret she experienced near the end and the action she took - sacrificing the Apple family's prize-winning apple just to get Fluttershy back (They ran out of regular-sized apples to lure Flutterbat in?)
Fluttershy really was more of the victim, and AppleJack was the recipient of the moral lesson's hammerhead-fall.
(Fluttershy turning into a vampire is awesome, but what lesson is there to learn with her turning batty? Don't be a victim to peer-pressure?)
I actually hold dearer the lesson that AppleJack received in "Bats!" which led her to act out a sort of self-sacrifice. "I've got to get my friend back no matter what!" Dang that is sweet!
Thing is, all of them received the lesson's hammerhead-fall in "Bats!" almost losing a friend to the nature of vampire fruit bats. Unfortunately we are only allowed to vote for one character only.
In "Rarity Takes Manehattan," the much of the lesson focuses on her; one episode and one pony to vote for. Easy. Plus I have more going on irl that has more to do with generosity and what-not so that makes it a bit biased for me. :D
Now that I have thought through it in comment-form, my next vote may be for AppleJack.
ShadowGentleman - 10 years ago
No love for Applejack? She's become the de facto leader in this season. Of course, it means Pinkie Pie's taking a back seat right now, but still, Applejack is doing something, right?
Zi - 10 years ago
@Kid A We know the legitimate result, though. It is Rarity who won. She was winning the whole week before this bullshit started.
Kid A - 10 years ago
Yeah, I agree with you guys, calling bullshit on this one.
The poll results are pretty much even all week, and then suddenly there's massive changes, with Rarity's and Fluttershy's levels fluctuating madly. At this point? No way it's genuine.
It just begs the question, why? Why do people care enough about this fucking poll to bring in proxies and cheat to win? It's supposed to be a bit of fun and yet again people have gotten so worked up and serious about pretend horses that it's just become a point of frustration.
And it wouldn't bother me quite as much if Fluttershy had been the best this series. As Mojo's pointed out though, the big things about her this series have been admittedly fun yet gimmicky transformations. So sad really, it's a Rarity (feel free to hate mail me about that one) for Rarity to win these opinion polls, and when it looks like she's going to do so people have to go and fix the results. Now we'll never know the legitimate general opinion, we're just left with this skewed mess.
Sad really.
Lumberden - 10 years ago
> Whole weak of Rarity slighty winning
> 8 hors ago Flutters starts winning
> 4 hours ago somehow Rarity wins by 50 again
> Now suddenly Fluttershy 50 votes ahed
Incredible.
Chad - 10 years ago
I'm joining with others here and calling Shenanigans, even if I did vote Fluttershy. Ours polls are never this close, for this long.
NN - 10 years ago
@Mojo Actually, Fluttershy's characterisation and occurences were pretty good too, but they ware also overshadowed by her more visual "epic" moments.
Mojo - 10 years ago
Yeah Fluttershy shot up from like 40 down to like 50 above in about an hour, something is going on here.
I Know Stuff - 10 years ago
@Mojo Yeah, and about hour or two ago, there was sudden rush of Rarity votes after FS went ahead of RR for a while.
Looks like this poll turned into Flutterfags vs Rarifags proxy battle.
Mojo - 10 years ago
Sigh, people value cheap gimmicks far too much. Fluttershy's characterization this season hasn't been strong.
Tenco1 - 10 years ago
Wow, I don't think we've ever had a poll that had the lead change before.
Mojo - 10 years ago
Where the hell did this surge in Fluttershy votes come from, she's gained like 30 on rarity in the last half hour or so.
Nicolas M. - 10 years ago
But… I wanted to vote for Discord… :'(
Alaz - 10 years ago
@Sita, it's impossible to multivote without a proxy.
@gibu, and that's exactly the speed of a proxy.
Sita - 10 years ago
Someone told me he's been multivoting for Rarity. How is that even possible? Sure she's my favorite and all, but shouldn't polls be voted fair?
gibu - 10 years ago
this pool is bullshit. fluttershy gets 2 vote/min. its not normal, because others characters don't get this much, or any. im fluttershy fan, but c'mon, its oblivious this pool is no longer fair. dono if someone using proxy or some shit. but this is bullshit.
Siera - 10 years ago
I think Rarity has won enough polls so far. A certain other pony needs to win for a change.
Obsidian Sky - 10 years ago
I don't know what reason would there be for tears Lumberden, this poll is so close for such a long time that if neither Flutters nor Rares get at least a 1% lead all of the sudden, i just consider them sharing the first place. I liked Rarity more so far this season, but im not going to cry lolrigged because Flutters might beat her in the poll. Rarity has always been my number one, and i don't need her to win every fan poll to reassure myself of that, nor do i care when some other pony has more fans. I would surely be happy if she would win this one, but im not going to complain if not.
Somebrony - 10 years ago
@VGI Bats has its own decent morale lesson: don't give in to peer pressure when your better judgement says what your friends are telling you to do is wrong.
Peer pressure can make even decent people do some stupid or horrible things and people with self-esteem or confidence issues can be quite vulnerable to that.
Lumberden - 10 years ago
Rarifan tears & "rigged" comments in 3... 2... 1...
Karkyhi - 10 years ago
My ass Fluttershy gained enough votes to pull ahead out of nowhere. This is rigged now.
Mapplemoth - 10 years ago
@Mojo Oh look, how cute, this fella thinks he's on moral highround because an episode he liked better had more talking in it.
Ultimately, after mulling it over among all the choices, it came to either Rarity or Fluttershy.
On one hand, HASBRO did a fan service in "Bats!"
But on the other, "Rarity takes on Manehattan" has a solid moral lesson that made me like MLP in the first place.
So, my vote goes to Rarity this time.
buu - 10 years ago
@Matthew Kelly isn't it suppose to be impartial, not fan-zerg-rush?
Matthew Kelly - 10 years ago
C'mon Fluttershy fans! We can win this!
zoa - 10 years ago
futershy gets 30 votes in 30 min? bullshit
Mojo - 10 years ago
O god don't tell me Fluttershy is going ot pull ahead NOW do people really value a cheap gimmick over actual characterization?
MM - 10 years ago
@:D You know what I usually respect other people's opinions but as for you, you can take your opinion and shove it up your ass, and in my opinion pinkie is best pony whether you like it or not, what a dick.
well MM you failed at cursing but in my opoion you should not be cursing at all and theres no wrong with princess twilight i mean she acts the same she just got wings just stfu and enjoy the poll
MM - 10 years ago
@amarite look man I'm so sorry if I offended you, I have to tell you something I'm not against fluttershy, I admit that she helped me alot in the past, but now I can't even look at her any more, the writers are playing with my emotions, just like they did with twilight, turning her into a fxxxxxx princess.
amarite - 10 years ago
@MM
I didn't said you're one of them either. I only adressed that your "It's only because people think she's cute". And "in fact" you really didn't have to say that you think what happened in bats and power ponies was stupid. That was pretty obvious you believe that considering your opinions on Fluttershy.
MM - 10 years ago
@Amarite I don't think she's cute, I only said that people think she's cute and that doesn't mean that I'm one of them, in fact what happened in power ponies and bats was stupid.
Amarite - 10 years ago
@MM
And you see, that was the point. People like you think it's only because she's cute, so I listed all other reasons why people like Fluttershy, and they're all true. Being cute is one reason of course, but there's much more to Fluttershy than just being cute (becaue honestly, everypony is cute in their own way). I don't blame you though, anyone might miss the appeal of a character that they don't care much about.
MM - 10 years ago
People don't laugh at fluttershy not because she's funny but because they think she's cute.
MM - 10 years ago
@Amarite Not everything you said is true.
Amarite - 10 years ago
It's because you probably missunderstood them, because this comments won't let me do paragraphs. Also my english, I know. Otherwise, everything I said is true.
MM - 10 years ago
@Amarite OK no offense, but most of the things you said are BULLSHIT.
Amarite - 10 years ago
@twili sparkle
Geez, calm down, your fantardism is showing. Fluttershy didn't get mad earlier because her friends could handle themsmselves perfectly, but a little bug was helpless. She did get mad when her friends got cornered by a Dragon or Cockatrice in s1. There's also much more reaons to like Fluttershy than just her appearance being cute.
1. Not only her appearance but also her character and the way she act is cute (look for "moe" character)
2. Numerous iconic best comedy scenes in this show involve Fluttershy (cheering lesson, Luna visits Fluttershy, evil enchantress etc.)
3. She's ralatable, and so, often inspirational.
4. She helps those who nobody else cares about (like vampire fruitbats, manticores or fireflies)
5. There are so many twists to her character:
- An irony of a pegasus affraid of flying
- Flutterrage
- The stare
- Even ungly or monstrous animals get love
- "Freaky sewing skills"
- Friendship with a Spirit of Chaos
- Possible fruitbat vampirism
Chad - 10 years ago
Is this the closest poll we've ever had?
twili sparkle - 10 years ago
WAT!!?? RD 4??? FLUTTERSHY 2?? people rd should be like the first one shes loyal... fluttershy only cares about her animals .-. did you guys saw power ponies? she din't god mad when her friends where in serious danger but when a little animal thats the annoying thing eva a animal that never let you eat.. xD SHE GOT MAD CUZ THAT LITTLE ANNOYING ANIMAL GOT HURTED NOT FOR HER FRIENDS... and is the inside what matters not the outside .-. you like her cuz shes cute just for that .-. and she cares just about her animals... and rd is loyal,cool,good friend and sometimes she show off but we all show off .-. and twilight is kind,generous,loyal,honest and funny which thing is magic.... but i admit that they gave her a loooooot of credit but still her inside and outside is awesome :) and i respect your opinion but this is my opinion, so thats all.
Rockpath5 - 10 years ago
The only way Pinkie Pie could not be the best in season 4 is if she weren't in season 4, but as long as she's in the title sequence, she's got it in the bag.
The poll-hacking fanboy in me wishes I could honestly vote for one of my favorite three ponies, rather than someone from the middle of my "best ponies" list, but I have to admit-- Rarity has been a pretty strong character this season. Whether she's acting in a way that makes you want to slap some sense into her, being genuinely pleasant and even (*gasp*) generous, or acting the role of the cultured bad-ass, she leaves a definite impression behind most every time.
MM - 10 years ago
Poor apple bloom, no love for her.
StarBrightSky - 10 years ago
Oh, give me a break. Rarity wins AGAIN??!
RoyalShield - 10 years ago
Scoots absolutely is the best thus far. She had to deal with circumstances that were, not only beyond her control, but that were also a physical and mental barrier.
starlitalpha - 10 years ago
@mojo
My first response to being stressed is not setting my friends to overnight on a project and then run in the next day and scream IT'S ABOUT TIME!
I do like flawed characters. Almost all of the ponies are flawed in their own way. I just see that they are very few spots on the show where Rarity is ACTUALLY generous.
also blahblub, It's not being a troll, it's having an opinion. When you get older and people in real life have opinions, especially your boss, and you call them a troll, it's gonna end very bad for you.
Repeatedly.
Chuck - 10 years ago
There has been a serious lack of a certain background pony this season....kinda like last season....we love you Derpy Hooves...please come back!!
Jaboll252 - 10 years ago
Rarity first? What? That was just one episode, not a "season so far". She did pretty much nothing in the remaining seven. Same for Fluttershy. And they're both winning? Jesus.
ShimmerySky - 10 years ago
That a highly unfitting poll at the moment. A poll like this should be only added AFTER the season ends, like this it's just unfair.
stihsti - 10 years ago
that close call between Rarity and Fluttershy.
come on Rarity
Scootaloo was this best this season she really deserve more votes she was really amazing
MM - 10 years ago
@ChromePony9, Just wait untill next week and we'll see how useless she is, people like you make me sick, pinkie is not useless, she's the one that makes everybody laugh with her awesome jokes, plus she's friends with everypony.
CranberrySauce - 10 years ago
@ItsAMeMuirlock
Luna isn't a main character. She's a secondary character at best, considering she's in barely any episodes and doesn't do anything besides be evil in the first two.
ChromePony9 - 10 years ago
Status for all of them:
I have a strong tie between Rainbow and Rarity.
I love Pinkie,but she's been pretty useless so far.
Spike is boring too.
Fluttershy:She's funny this season,but no.I would be disappointed if she was second because of Flutterbat.
Scootaloo ,Applejack,and Twilight have been pretty nice too.
silvadel - 10 years ago
Rarity wins it, not only for her performance in Manehattan, but in Power Ponies, and other episodes as well. It is also by default because some of the other characters have NOT been exceeding their norms.
Hakirayleigh - 10 years ago
Two things guys. First one until now We have 8/26 episodes, so it's very rushed vote which is the best season main character.
And second one, I'm a Rarity fan, and her last episode was great, but I put two better characters from what I've seen of this season: Twilight and Scootaloo.
Twilight assumed new responsabilities and achieved a new power source: the box. besides her new role like princess doesn't change her humility and her wishes for learning.
And Scootaloo, had a great advance like character, thanks to Rainbow Dash about downplay the possibility the orange filly might fly and be okay with the others CMC.
Therefore my personal poll would be: 1. Twilight, 2. Scootaloo, 3. Rarity, 4. Fluttershy and 5. Rainbow Dash.
CK - 10 years ago
RD still best pony in my opinion. :)
ItsAMeMuirlock - 10 years ago
Tried to find Luna but she's not there. :( RD it is then.
Jonathan - 10 years ago
I almost went with Rarity just because of the last episode, but other than that, she hasn't done much. Rainbow Dash has had the most well-rounded appearances in the season. She has had some great individual moments, like her fangirl-off with Twilight in Daring Don't, her exasperation with the CMC at the end of Flight to the Finish, and her quips in Rarity Takes Manehatten. She's had some interesting insights into her character, with her feeling inadequate in comparison to Daring Do, her geeking out over Daring Do and Henny of the Hills, and her getting scared of the castle in Castle Mane-ia. She had a decent lesson in Daring Don't. She had some good interactions with Applejack in Castle Mane-ia. And she got to be a mentor to Scootaloo in Flight to the Finish, which is rare for her.
OneRadicalDude - 10 years ago
If we're going by best written character of the season, right now, it's a three-way tie for me in no order: Rarity, Spike, and Scootaloo, so far.
Karach - 10 years ago
You do realize that if you tossed Luna in there she would get 90% of votes? :P
NamelessNP - 10 years ago
Gotta say Rainbow Dash has been really good so far this season. And I'm saying that as a big Pinkie/Fluttershy fan who used to not like Dash. Her characterization has greatly improved since season 2.
Hayden W - 10 years ago
Overall rarity is my #3 right now, but I just had to vote her #1 this season for her amazing episode. I honestly think twilight has been kinda... Off as a character so far this season but she would have been next then prob scoots (dem feels) otherwise pinkie has been more insane then usual XD and has not had her episode yet, flutterbat doesn't count as character development so fluttershy has not really done a lot, AJ hates animals apparently (with good reason) but has yet to have a good shining role yet (though I will admit she has been a good, supporting character in all episodes with her in them) . And Dash has been both role model and obsessed fan, and I adored her in flight to the finish but nothing special from her yet really. And no comment on the other cmc (haven't done a lot) and no comment on spike (never been a "spike person") and power ponies didn't change that for me. Feel free to disagree with me and/or counter argue. I'm always open minded.
RevanDash - 10 years ago
Well it is clearly rarity only because of last episode but i'm hyped for the next few because Rainbow Dash will be taking a main character / main side character role and im expecting great things! Don't fail me now Hasbro!
@Rockpath5
Pretty much this. Its annoying and it always tend to get proxy voting bullshit with the two top ponies. -_-
Let's just not have "best pony" polls anymore. They are neither constructive nor interesting.
@Whatever Overanalization? Character growth and characterization as you put it, was pretty obvious to many. And pretty enjoyable too in a "I'm touched" sort of way. Example: Fluttershy standing up to Iron Will without losing her being Fluttershy. I am in no way going to deny that Fluttershy turning into Flutterbat was not uber-fun to watch. In the contrary it was outstanding! I actually want to make a fanart of a bunch of stallions lining up on the side of the road wearing apple-garlands around their necks as Fluttershy does her groceries. Now, move on to the next poll please. There is a big discrepancy/inconsistency between the qualities that the franchise symbolize and the qualities that some comments have in this poll.
Can we just move on to the next poll yet?
Hmmm, you guys notice that there is a lot of fanservice and nods from the animators and Hasbro in S4? First there is Flutterbat which is a nod from the animators and Hasbro that they know that bat-ponies are very popular with the fandom since "Luna Eclipsed." And now there is a nod at the "Ponylicious" series, particularly Applebloom singing and almost finishing her Applebloom-licious song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_oZ6YUG8IA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wblE8YYLyQ0
@Mojo Stop insulting my favorite pony, pinkie pie and AJ were both AWESOME in this episode, and they both learned a valuable lesson, pinkie is not mess, you guys are just too blinded by your hatred to pinke to see how great of a character she is. I said it once and I'm gonna say it agian you people make me sick.
@MM That Pinkie is still a mess of a character at the moment but AJ is pretty damn cool.
Pinkie apple pie is my favorite season 4 episode so far, it was so AAAAAWWWWWEEEEEESSSSSOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, what do you think of Pinki Pie and AJ now.
@whatever Im sorry you care absolutely nothing for quality of writing.
Jeez, your stupid "character growth" and "characterization" does not always equal actual enjoyment. I voted for the one I had the most fun watching, and none of your wannabe overanalizations gonna change it. There I said it, nobody cares.
When is this poll going to end?
@ Nicolas M.
Me too, Discord is back to his sarcastic, witty self as we saw in Return of Harmony :-þ
Woha woha woha, Fluttershy tops Rarity? Seriously, bronydom, seriously? A body transformation IS NOT a character growth! Ah wahtever...
end it please. my respect for fluttershy fans decrease every minute...
Fluttershy's only topping the poll because of Flutterbat. That's fine and everything but I think Applejack has stood out this season. She's moved up from 5th to 2nd for me overall and definitely 1st for this season. (Sorry Twi, but you jumped on a bandwagon in Bats! and all your alicorn princess power couldn't even get you a cab in Rarity Takes Manehattan.)
@VGI Couldn't have said it better myself.
@NN Of course I watched the show. And sure everybody knows that the lesson is about not letting anyone peer-pressure you into anything, even if they are friends. That's just stating the obvious. It's stated in the end of the episode as Spike writes it down in their journal so its a no-brainer.
But if you truly watched the show, you'd see the not-so-obvious lesson. And that has something to do with AppleJack regretting her actions and doing a self-sacrifice. In the end, though it was a price to pay, she paid it - sacrifice a win in the Appleloosa fair for the sake of Fluttershy.
To all the cheaters: is it really worth it?
Hmpf... Im just going to ignore the polls from now on if they are really so easy to manipulate. Even if Rarity would win, which i would like because i liked her the most this season, i don't want her to win just because someone proxyvoted for her, and i guess the same is true for the most other fans and their favorites. Makes these polls completely pointless if they just show who can proxyvote the most.
@buu Well, it is impartial. I loved Fluttershy's moments this season, though Twilight would be a close second. The whole point of this poll is to see which character did you enjoy seeing most, and which character was enjoyed the most in the fandom. In order to be completely accurate, nearly everyone has to vote, including everyone who liked Fluttershy the most this season.
@VGI Did you even watch the episode? Fluttershy's lesson in Bats! was not let semeone pressure you into doing something that you don't think is right, even if everyone is against you. Seems like flutterbat was awesome it overshadows literally everything.
Wow as much as I like Fluttershy I seriously don't think she should be winning this.
I honestly think Applejack or Rainbow Dash should be up there.
Pinkie Pie hasn't really gotten to do anything up until this point and Twilight's been Meh. Rarity has been pretty good and Fluttershy has only been visually appealing so far. She's more of a all flash no substance character.
OK This is getting ridiculous, just end this poll already.
@popo I see you don't understand. People cheat for all characters, but for fluttershy is too oblivious. And ofc some people will get and at this and "repair" the poll.
This sucks. The question is best main character OF THE SEASON SO FAR. What has Rarity done? Apart from the last episode, she has done nothing. She has barely said anything in the episodes. What has FLuttershy done? Well she has certainly entertained us with her transformations and shit but nothing else. Rainbow Dash has been best to me although they made her look like some freaky fan in the Daring don't ep, but she has grown a lot and we´ve seen it SO FAR. I think Princess Twilight should be worst becouse SO FAR we haven't seen any progress of her, she hasn't even flown once.
So rarifans, stop complaining about your precious character not wining one poll, and stop saying flutterfans are cheating becouse from my point of view, both fans are. This is so childish.
I think we can call it draw, because: Rarity win whole poll (everyone know it), and till last few hours, where magically fluttershy gets lead with mass number of new votes. Now it is some motherfucking proxy war, and you know what? If you wanna flutter win so bad, fuck it. Go ahead. Generosity people...
Personaly i don't know if ep 8 or 7, because if someone feel that 7 have more value lesson Im ok with this. But episode 8 was so true, it hurts.
@ Kid A Careful, the fun police are always watching. This shit is serious business. Someone could be hurt if you have the wrong opinion about their favorite cartoon character.
Really it was always close enough that there was no clear winner. When you have all of those other candidates the votes can go to, you've got to call a statistical draw if the leading ones are less than 3% apart.
Fluttershy has taken the lead! What an upset! O.o
@Somebrony
True, "Bats" do have some solid moral lessons too, but thing is, the moral of the lesson is not directed towards one pony only.
If I were to choose a character to vote for based on "Bats!" I would have to make at least 2 votes; one for Fluttershy and one for AppleJack. But if I can only make one vote based on "Bats!" I would have to go for AppleJack because of the regret she experienced near the end and the action she took - sacrificing the Apple family's prize-winning apple just to get Fluttershy back (They ran out of regular-sized apples to lure Flutterbat in?)
Fluttershy really was more of the victim, and AppleJack was the recipient of the moral lesson's hammerhead-fall.
(Fluttershy turning into a vampire is awesome, but what lesson is there to learn with her turning batty? Don't be a victim to peer-pressure?)
I actually hold dearer the lesson that AppleJack received in "Bats!" which led her to act out a sort of self-sacrifice. "I've got to get my friend back no matter what!" Dang that is sweet!
Thing is, all of them received the lesson's hammerhead-fall in "Bats!" almost losing a friend to the nature of vampire fruit bats. Unfortunately we are only allowed to vote for one character only.
In "Rarity Takes Manehattan," the much of the lesson focuses on her; one episode and one pony to vote for. Easy. Plus I have more going on irl that has more to do with generosity and what-not so that makes it a bit biased for me. :D
Now that I have thought through it in comment-form, my next vote may be for AppleJack.
No love for Applejack? She's become the de facto leader in this season. Of course, it means Pinkie Pie's taking a back seat right now, but still, Applejack is doing something, right?
@Kid A We know the legitimate result, though. It is Rarity who won. She was winning the whole week before this bullshit started.
Yeah, I agree with you guys, calling bullshit on this one.
The poll results are pretty much even all week, and then suddenly there's massive changes, with Rarity's and Fluttershy's levels fluctuating madly. At this point? No way it's genuine.
It just begs the question, why? Why do people care enough about this fucking poll to bring in proxies and cheat to win? It's supposed to be a bit of fun and yet again people have gotten so worked up and serious about pretend horses that it's just become a point of frustration.
And it wouldn't bother me quite as much if Fluttershy had been the best this series. As Mojo's pointed out though, the big things about her this series have been admittedly fun yet gimmicky transformations. So sad really, it's a Rarity (feel free to hate mail me about that one) for Rarity to win these opinion polls, and when it looks like she's going to do so people have to go and fix the results. Now we'll never know the legitimate general opinion, we're just left with this skewed mess.
Sad really.
> Whole weak of Rarity slighty winning
> 8 hors ago Flutters starts winning
> 4 hours ago somehow Rarity wins by 50 again
> Now suddenly Fluttershy 50 votes ahed
Incredible.
I'm joining with others here and calling Shenanigans, even if I did vote Fluttershy. Ours polls are never this close, for this long.
@Mojo Actually, Fluttershy's characterisation and occurences were pretty good too, but they ware also overshadowed by her more visual "epic" moments.
Yeah Fluttershy shot up from like 40 down to like 50 above in about an hour, something is going on here.
@Mojo Yeah, and about hour or two ago, there was sudden rush of Rarity votes after FS went ahead of RR for a while.
Looks like this poll turned into Flutterfags vs Rarifags proxy battle.
Sigh, people value cheap gimmicks far too much. Fluttershy's characterization this season hasn't been strong.
Wow, I don't think we've ever had a poll that had the lead change before.
Where the hell did this surge in Fluttershy votes come from, she's gained like 30 on rarity in the last half hour or so.
But… I wanted to vote for Discord… :'(
@Sita, it's impossible to multivote without a proxy.
@gibu, and that's exactly the speed of a proxy.
Someone told me he's been multivoting for Rarity. How is that even possible? Sure she's my favorite and all, but shouldn't polls be voted fair?
this pool is bullshit. fluttershy gets 2 vote/min. its not normal, because others characters don't get this much, or any. im fluttershy fan, but c'mon, its oblivious this pool is no longer fair. dono if someone using proxy or some shit. but this is bullshit.
I think Rarity has won enough polls so far. A certain other pony needs to win for a change.
I don't know what reason would there be for tears Lumberden, this poll is so close for such a long time that if neither Flutters nor Rares get at least a 1% lead all of the sudden, i just consider them sharing the first place. I liked Rarity more so far this season, but im not going to cry lolrigged because Flutters might beat her in the poll. Rarity has always been my number one, and i don't need her to win every fan poll to reassure myself of that, nor do i care when some other pony has more fans. I would surely be happy if she would win this one, but im not going to complain if not.
@VGI Bats has its own decent morale lesson: don't give in to peer pressure when your better judgement says what your friends are telling you to do is wrong.
Peer pressure can make even decent people do some stupid or horrible things and people with self-esteem or confidence issues can be quite vulnerable to that.
Rarifan tears & "rigged" comments in 3... 2... 1...
My ass Fluttershy gained enough votes to pull ahead out of nowhere. This is rigged now.
@Mojo Oh look, how cute, this fella thinks he's on moral highround because an episode he liked better had more talking in it.
RARITY
Ultimately, after mulling it over among all the choices, it came to either Rarity or Fluttershy.
On one hand, HASBRO did a fan service in "Bats!"
But on the other, "Rarity takes on Manehattan" has a solid moral lesson that made me like MLP in the first place.
So, my vote goes to Rarity this time.
@Matthew Kelly isn't it suppose to be impartial, not fan-zerg-rush?
C'mon Fluttershy fans! We can win this!
futershy gets 30 votes in 30 min? bullshit
O god don't tell me Fluttershy is going ot pull ahead NOW do people really value a cheap gimmick over actual characterization?
@:D You know what I usually respect other people's opinions but as for you, you can take your opinion and shove it up your ass, and in my opinion pinkie is best pony whether you like it or not, what a dick.
and btw pinkie pie is NOT best pony
well MM you failed at cursing but in my opoion you should not be cursing at all and theres no wrong with princess twilight i mean she acts the same she just got wings just stfu and enjoy the poll
@amarite look man I'm so sorry if I offended you, I have to tell you something I'm not against fluttershy, I admit that she helped me alot in the past, but now I can't even look at her any more, the writers are playing with my emotions, just like they did with twilight, turning her into a fxxxxxx princess.
@MM
I didn't said you're one of them either. I only adressed that your "It's only because people think she's cute". And "in fact" you really didn't have to say that you think what happened in bats and power ponies was stupid. That was pretty obvious you believe that considering your opinions on Fluttershy.
@Amarite I don't think she's cute, I only said that people think she's cute and that doesn't mean that I'm one of them, in fact what happened in power ponies and bats was stupid.
@MM
And you see, that was the point. People like you think it's only because she's cute, so I listed all other reasons why people like Fluttershy, and they're all true. Being cute is one reason of course, but there's much more to Fluttershy than just being cute (becaue honestly, everypony is cute in their own way). I don't blame you though, anyone might miss the appeal of a character that they don't care much about.
People don't laugh at fluttershy not because she's funny but because they think she's cute.
@Amarite Not everything you said is true.
It's because you probably missunderstood them, because this comments won't let me do paragraphs. Also my english, I know. Otherwise, everything I said is true.
@Amarite OK no offense, but most of the things you said are BULLSHIT.
@twili sparkle
Geez, calm down, your fantardism is showing. Fluttershy didn't get mad earlier because her friends could handle themsmselves perfectly, but a little bug was helpless. She did get mad when her friends got cornered by a Dragon or Cockatrice in s1. There's also much more reaons to like Fluttershy than just her appearance being cute.
1. Not only her appearance but also her character and the way she act is cute (look for "moe" character)
2. Numerous iconic best comedy scenes in this show involve Fluttershy (cheering lesson, Luna visits Fluttershy, evil enchantress etc.)
3. She's ralatable, and so, often inspirational.
4. She helps those who nobody else cares about (like vampire fruitbats, manticores or fireflies)
5. There are so many twists to her character:
- An irony of a pegasus affraid of flying
- Flutterrage
- The stare
- Even ungly or monstrous animals get love
- "Freaky sewing skills"
- Friendship with a Spirit of Chaos
- Possible fruitbat vampirism
Is this the closest poll we've ever had?
WAT!!?? RD 4??? FLUTTERSHY 2?? people rd should be like the first one shes loyal... fluttershy only cares about her animals .-. did you guys saw power ponies? she din't god mad when her friends where in serious danger but when a little animal thats the annoying thing eva a animal that never let you eat.. xD SHE GOT MAD CUZ THAT LITTLE ANNOYING ANIMAL GOT HURTED NOT FOR HER FRIENDS... and is the inside what matters not the outside .-. you like her cuz shes cute just for that .-. and she cares just about her animals... and rd is loyal,cool,good friend and sometimes she show off but we all show off .-. and twilight is kind,generous,loyal,honest and funny which thing is magic.... but i admit that they gave her a loooooot of credit but still her inside and outside is awesome :) and i respect your opinion but this is my opinion, so thats all.
The only way Pinkie Pie could not be the best in season 4 is if she weren't in season 4, but as long as she's in the title sequence, she's got it in the bag.
when the next episode comes for this week pinkie pie and aj are really gonna bust in the front on the poll
The poll-hacking fanboy in me wishes I could honestly vote for one of my favorite three ponies, rather than someone from the middle of my "best ponies" list, but I have to admit-- Rarity has been a pretty strong character this season. Whether she's acting in a way that makes you want to slap some sense into her, being genuinely pleasant and even (*gasp*) generous, or acting the role of the cultured bad-ass, she leaves a definite impression behind most every time.
Poor apple bloom, no love for her.
Oh, give me a break. Rarity wins AGAIN??!
Scoots absolutely is the best thus far. She had to deal with circumstances that were, not only beyond her control, but that were also a physical and mental barrier.
@mojo
My first response to being stressed is not setting my friends to overnight on a project and then run in the next day and scream IT'S ABOUT TIME!
I do like flawed characters. Almost all of the ponies are flawed in their own way. I just see that they are very few spots on the show where Rarity is ACTUALLY generous.
also blahblub, It's not being a troll, it's having an opinion. When you get older and people in real life have opinions, especially your boss, and you call them a troll, it's gonna end very bad for you.
Repeatedly.
There has been a serious lack of a certain background pony this season....kinda like last season....we love you Derpy Hooves...please come back!!
Rarity first? What? That was just one episode, not a "season so far". She did pretty much nothing in the remaining seven. Same for Fluttershy. And they're both winning? Jesus.
That a highly unfitting poll at the moment. A poll like this should be only added AFTER the season ends, like this it's just unfair.
that close call between Rarity and Fluttershy.
come on Rarity
Scootaloo was this best this season she really deserve more votes she was really amazing
@ChromePony9, Just wait untill next week and we'll see how useless she is, people like you make me sick, pinkie is not useless, she's the one that makes everybody laugh with her awesome jokes, plus she's friends with everypony.
@ItsAMeMuirlock
Luna isn't a main character. She's a secondary character at best, considering she's in barely any episodes and doesn't do anything besides be evil in the first two.
Status for all of them:
I have a strong tie between Rainbow and Rarity.
I love Pinkie,but she's been pretty useless so far.
Spike is boring too.
Fluttershy:She's funny this season,but no.I would be disappointed if she was second because of Flutterbat.
Scootaloo ,Applejack,and Twilight have been pretty nice too.
Rarity wins it, not only for her performance in Manehattan, but in Power Ponies, and other episodes as well. It is also by default because some of the other characters have NOT been exceeding their norms.
Two things guys. First one until now We have 8/26 episodes, so it's very rushed vote which is the best season main character.
And second one, I'm a Rarity fan, and her last episode was great, but I put two better characters from what I've seen of this season: Twilight and Scootaloo.
Twilight assumed new responsabilities and achieved a new power source: the box. besides her new role like princess doesn't change her humility and her wishes for learning.
And Scootaloo, had a great advance like character, thanks to Rainbow Dash about downplay the possibility the orange filly might fly and be okay with the others CMC.
Therefore my personal poll would be: 1. Twilight, 2. Scootaloo, 3. Rarity, 4. Fluttershy and 5. Rainbow Dash.
RD still best pony in my opinion. :)
Tried to find Luna but she's not there. :( RD it is then.
I almost went with Rarity just because of the last episode, but other than that, she hasn't done much. Rainbow Dash has had the most well-rounded appearances in the season. She has had some great individual moments, like her fangirl-off with Twilight in Daring Don't, her exasperation with the CMC at the end of Flight to the Finish, and her quips in Rarity Takes Manehatten. She's had some interesting insights into her character, with her feeling inadequate in comparison to Daring Do, her geeking out over Daring Do and Henny of the Hills, and her getting scared of the castle in Castle Mane-ia. She had a decent lesson in Daring Don't. She had some good interactions with Applejack in Castle Mane-ia. And she got to be a mentor to Scootaloo in Flight to the Finish, which is rare for her.
If we're going by best written character of the season, right now, it's a three-way tie for me in no order: Rarity, Spike, and Scootaloo, so far.
You do realize that if you tossed Luna in there she would get 90% of votes? :P
Gotta say Rainbow Dash has been really good so far this season. And I'm saying that as a big Pinkie/Fluttershy fan who used to not like Dash. Her characterization has greatly improved since season 2.
Overall rarity is my #3 right now, but I just had to vote her #1 this season for her amazing episode. I honestly think twilight has been kinda... Off as a character so far this season but she would have been next then prob scoots (dem feels) otherwise pinkie has been more insane then usual XD and has not had her episode yet, flutterbat doesn't count as character development so fluttershy has not really done a lot, AJ hates animals apparently (with good reason) but has yet to have a good shining role yet (though I will admit she has been a good, supporting character in all episodes with her in them) . And Dash has been both role model and obsessed fan, and I adored her in flight to the finish but nothing special from her yet really. And no comment on the other cmc (haven't done a lot) and no comment on spike (never been a "spike person") and power ponies didn't change that for me. Feel free to disagree with me and/or counter argue. I'm always open minded.
Well it is clearly rarity only because of last episode but i'm hyped for the next few because Rainbow Dash will be taking a main character / main side character role and im expecting great things! Don't fail me now Hasbro!
i really wish twilight won but to admit princess twilight and rarity were TOP in seoson 4
I want so badly click on Twilight Sparkle, but the fact is that Raritys last episode was just too good to be ignored.
Oh great. The Rarity hate begins AGAIN.
Quit being immature, whiny brats already and get over yourselves.
Man.... Spike is becoming more worthless every episode.