If that's the case can we as parents report schools for teaching sex education in yr3 because I believe that is why rates of teen pregnancy is on the rise
Marcus - 7 years ago
Teachers and headmasters should SHUT UP AND TEACH!! As a parent I would thank teachers to mind their own damned business outside of schools and keep their heads and their noses in the classrooms where they bloody well belong!!! TEACH!! That's IT!!!
H - 9 years ago
It's the law that schools must report anything illegal.
It's illegal for children to play them therefore schools are legally bound to report it.
It likely wont be acted on but it must be reported incase there is an incident later on that is related to the illegal activity...you know like abducting and torturing a small child on train tracks.
Lisanne - 9 years ago
These games have been proven to trigger the addiction centre in your brain. I wouldn't let my kids play any game for more than 30 mins at a time. Lucy your child is addicted and you need to wean him down or go cold turkey.
All the people who have been done "no harm" by playing violent, lawless, mysogenistic (women are for decoration) games from an early age ... How can you tell how much better you might have become if you hadn't played them?
All those allowing their kids to play ...would you let them watch an 18 movie ? ... The reasons for games and movies being rated 18 are the same.
To the man whose child can repeat the rite words 'it's just a game' .... He can learn to say that to you long before he understands what it means ... Until around 8-10 years of age children have magical thinking and the borders between what's real and what's not are very blurred. Hence belief in fairies etc is absolute and unquestioned. You can't understand what your child really thinks if the games because your way of thinking is so different from his ... Ask him "what does that mean?" When he says its just a game ... He's just trying to please you, saying what you want him to say.
100 years ago many of these kids would've been dead or down mines or up chimneys or in service or in workhouses. Only for the last few decades have we had laws to protect childhood. Those laws say under age 13 you are too emotionally young to understand sex. You see hookers, porn, abusive relationships you can't put them into the right context because you don't fully understand a normal healthy relationship ...
Why are you trying to fight a move that is trying to let your children stay safe and innocent until they're teenagers ? Who wouldn't want that for their kids ?
Lewis - 9 years ago
An utterly ridiculous statement to be made, from the age of 6 I played GTA, Medal Of Honour, Resident Evil and many other 18+ games. I have faced just 1 "criminal" fine (not a charge) for petty vandalism (marker tags) aged 17, this wasn't due to the games I played as a kid! This was because of a personal choice to deface a piece of public property. Now 25 and a father of 2 I really don't mind my 7yo son playing CoD or Gears of War as he is clever enough to understand its a game!!! I've never even had to explain that to him. It was him who came to me and said "daddy, see on call of duty? That's just pretend eh?"
To which I replied "yes, and it's fun to play pretend".
Why are schools being so uptight about computer games? I'm more concerned about the content of some kids shows! How can someone say games are too violent when there are programs like Power Rangers which have real actors fighting like ninjas and shooting blasters. This is what I deem to be violently influencing our children.... Oh that and football hooliganism that minors are witnessing first hand, which is the main reason I don't want to take my son to a football game. I would rather he played a violent game which he knows is not real life than expose him to drunken, loud, obnoxious and violent football thugs
Emma - 9 years ago
I have 5 children, the oldest ia 20, youngest is 6. I am not a 'lazy parent' nor am I abusing/neglecting them. They play video games at the weekends, favourite one being Call of Duty. They have them all, between them, and also downloadable content. I even play with them sometimes!! But never in all this time have any of them attempted to grow dodgy beards, wear army gear while running around shooting people. I have took the time to explain it is a GAME, not real. I mean, seriously, how many people believe being shot, and getting up is true to life. My 6 yr old has known for a long time that once you're dead, that's it. And believe it or not, they are all quite aware that zombies are not real either!!!
I love my kids with everything I am, and there isn't a thing I wouldn't do to protect them. But I also have a responsibility to teach basic, fundamental social skills and morals. I've taught them stealing is wrong, as is being violent to other people. I noticed one comment where she was quite proud her youngest son loves tom and Jerry, but I remember watching them forever trying to kill each, and stealing as well.
These games only become a problem if parents allow them to. Maybe if they tried teaching their kids right from wrong, there wouldn't be such a problem.
Drew Sams - 9 years ago
This poll is not consistent with the related news article. The article states that head teachers are stating that they are going to report parents who let their children play adult computergames to the police.the poll asks if head teachers should simply warn parents of their children playing adult computer games.
anonymous - 9 years ago
no i do not agree to this. this actually happened to me with my child and because of the power the teachers now have they reported me to social services witch resulted in my children being removed from my house saying i was negleting them and sent to the fathers. they got everything wrong as i dont even own any console in my house it was the father that played the silly game with them but because they did not listen i now dont get to see my children. all over a stupid game. sickens me that this actually happens.
Amanda - 9 years ago
This is absolutely ridiculous,who are they to tell parents how to bring up their children,the police need to concentrate on the real problems,peadophiles and murderers because it isn't save these days for children to play out,i'm a mother of 3 and i would rather have them indoors playing games for whatever age,it's my decision because their MY children and be safe x
Suzannah - 9 years ago
I would rather my son played an 18 Xbox game under my supervision than he be hanging around outside McDonald's swearing and swigging cider from the bottle. Head teachers should be concentrating on reporting parents who are abusing there kids not trying to parent them.
John - 9 years ago
Stop being so pc everyone. I used to play all the latest call of dutys, as soon as they came out since call of duty 4 which made me about 13 years old, I personally don't think I've done too bad in my grades at school as I came out with 8 GCSEs, I also really used to (and still do) enjoy the grand theft auto games and I believe I aren't doing too bad in life from my countless hours on these video games as I've also done 3 college courses, 2 in mechanics 1 level 3 Motorsport, I have also got a security guarding sia badge coming my way very soon as I passed the test. And all this without a criminal due to my countless hours on all these violent video games. I personally think on this matter this is a completely ridiculous that it is classed as neglect if a child (anyone under the age of 18) is playing a slightly older game than they should. I haven't done bad in life even though I used to play all these games and more.
Rob - 9 years ago
Most of you are being idiots,
Okay a child in primary school shouldnt be playing it, how you explain why someone was killed or mudered to an underage kid ill never know
But in secondary school its alright for an 11 year old to learn about sex and how that works, yet youre telling me that they cant play a game that involes shooting other people, like a child under 18 is going to go out and but a gun...
So we can teach them about sex but not let them play a HARMLESS video game, most of you parents are just being stupid and not thinking properly.
Claire - 9 years ago
This is just madness having 3 kids under 18 I don't like these games. And I agree primary age children should not be playing them . however what's more worrying is we are no longer able to bring up our children as we see fit and we are becoming a dictataship nation in Britain where parents fear social services and schools . for actual children that are being abused this is not a good thing. Parents are pulling kids out of schools for this reason.
stevan - 9 years ago
Ok this is a fair point but I would rather have kids watching or playing any sort of video game where the parents can regulate what they play or watch rather than them on the streets getting up to no good, where you cannot regulate or watch over em......SO WHATS IT GONNA BE HEAD TEACHERS VIDEO MISS
USE OR DRUG MISSUSE
Paul - 9 years ago
theres sobs real thicko's commenting on this and clearly missing the point...my 3yr old watches kids tv and mimics what he sees on screen ...kids mimic what they see and hear and that includes older kids aswell...to have them growing up thinking nothing of stabbing folk onscreen or blowing their heads off etc etc desensitises them toward violence...they grow up thinking it's ok to hit a guy on the head with a bottle because he'll just get back up again...anyone with half a brain cell knows there's a link and yes I agree that the parents should be preventing their kids from playing such games but the fact of the matter is that they aren't ...there's always the moans n groans about being told what to do and cries of PC gone mad but I bet the parents and families whose loved ones are bottled or assaulted or knifed on the streets of Britain each day would soon change their opinion when the shit hits the fan in their own little bubble...there's a link ...face it....letting young kids play these games is wrong...end of.
James - 9 years ago
I'm 17 and have been playing games from an early age. My parents have been responsible and have not allowed me to play 18+ games until I was about 14 or 15.
Games have taught me a hell of a lot that school never would - life lessons, social skills and empathy, to name a few. Games allow me to escape when I'm feeling down, have allowed me to forge friendships, acting as a mutual hobby between me and others, and have very possibly set me up for a career (helping to develop games).
As for promoting murder, theft, rape etc. - some games make missteps, just like other mediums do, such as books and films. While I do not believe that these missteps will influence children any more than books or films will, yes, potentially harmful attitudes can be displayed in games. When they are, however, the overwhelming majority of players stand up against them and let the developers know that they are not happy, and thus them missteps are less likely to happen in the future. Most games, even 18+ games, have a lot of good to teach people. I, personally, feel more strongly than ever against mistreating people, especially in horrific ways such as rape, murder and cyberbullying. And I genuinely believe that games have played a role in strengthening that in my mind.
Let's not focus on the Call of Dutys and the Grand Theft Autos (GTA in specific, I would not let children under 16 or so play. I dislike it myself, due to the racism, sexism, homophobia, biphobia, transphobia etc. present. Call of Duty isn't so bad), and let's focus on TellTale's The Walking Dead, The Last of Us, the Dragon Age series, the Mass Effect trilogy, Life is Strange, Gone Home and Thomas Was Alone, as examples. While these may not be names that are familiar to you if you do not play games, they are all games, many of them 18+, that have taught me a lot about life. Without these games, I genuinely do not believe I'd be as good a person as I am.
All of this to say that my parents were very responsible, did not let me play any game at any age, but did allow me to play pretty much what I chose to when I was about 14 or 15 - and it has genuinely helped me to develop as a person. For me, games aren't about shooting people. They're about deep stories, meaningful relationships, and worlds to escape into. Just keep that in mind.
Leslie Bedell - 9 years ago
Simon is quite right that teachers should report child protection concerns but Niall is also right to point out the well publicised reluctance and failure of the teaching establishment to report suspected and actual child sexual abuse when one of their colleagues is involved (which you can also read about on the internet, Simon). Given my comments about other areas where the teaching profession has abrogated its responsibilities can this move by a small group of teachers be seen as a smokescreen?
Harvey - 9 years ago
I believe it is not a decision that a head teacher should make, if parents deem these games inappropriate then they should be the ones to stop their children playing them. Children may be becoming desensitized by this kind of content, but I really don't see the harm in it. These games are made for entertainment, and they do a good job at that. This whole argument is ridiculous; it's not like these children have access to weaponry, and will imitate actions seen in video games, they play them purely for the fun, often with friends, and it's a way that they can have fun together and be sociable with each other. I feel strongly that violent themes in particular are not a cause of concern and teachers need to keep out of parent's decisions.
Simon Morrison - 9 years ago
Spose these 18+ games are harmless for most underage kids. Just like if you told a load of young kids to run
across a busy 70 mph highway for fun most would make it to the other side and give
each other high fives. One or two would no doubt get squashed(just like with these games) but hey! - that's the game!
Actually... think I could make a nice little game outa that!
Dale - 9 years ago
Leslie has a point that teachers should be more aware at what's going on within their own premises. Amanda should watch what she says especially online. Richard I agree with what he says also. Katherine has raised a perfectly good point. I believe everyone's opinions should be respected. I've never played these games but I don't see why the teachers should be deciding what is right & wrong in this society. The teachers didn't carry the pupils for nine months in a womb.
Katherine - 9 years ago
I've read through all the comments here, some worry me whereas some don't. But nobody has asked, the teachers who are part of this reporting, what if they are buying the games for their children if they're underage? Calling the kettle black?
shaun jones - 9 years ago
But i would also agree that Amanda in the comments here is a complete moron without even a tiny amount of understanding about todays games, not it doesnt "encourage" anything, because lets face it your talking about grand theft auto, a game where you can also FLY A CAR!!!!! yes thats right because THAT is normal right? no ofcourse not, you can also carry around 20 weapons at once including 2 RPG's that most men wouldnt even be able to carry in real life, you can also get the ARMY after you, which isnt realistic either, the point being that people do NOT take these games seriously, and if you have a child that for some unknown reason believes everything he sees then you should be seriously worried enough to get him help before letting him do ANYTHING nevermind play games, but that doesnt effect everyone, ive been playing GTA since i was a little kid and ive never once considered doing anything ive done in the games ever, the most ive ever wanted to do was done some super powers after playing various superhero games which again, is just not possible.
julie - 9 years ago
This yet again. Is pc gone mad personally I don't have a problem my grandson age 9 plays,all the new games and so do most of his friends I'm normally in the same room and whilst the games are 18 I don't see anything that can harm him he chats and plays with his friends all from the safety of the house he's not out and in any danger from perverts and pedos but still as fun as he's still interacting in play with his friends he laughs and jokes and learns to lose as well as win how long will it be before we are reported for allowing them to eat junk food as that's also neglecting their health they are our children and ultimately our responsibility so there for the choices we make for them is down to us
shaun jones - 9 years ago
Having grown up with parents that let me watch and play whatever i wanted growing up, i have to still be honest about this, i dont think its a good idea to have kids playing the types of 18+ games we have today, for me it was stuff like GTA1 xD and robocop, both of which have the most unrealistic gore in them that is hardly taken seriously. but i play COD for instance, and all you get is all the underage kids whining and crying and being racist and insulting anyone around them, then being quiet when their parents come along, its pathetic and is likely to cause some serious development problems if they continue to push this other side of themselves and it starts coming out in public, it enrages some kids to the point of descruction, and i think its more the online aspect, playing a single player can be frustrating, but when there is a PERSON to blame for your losses they will go ape shit and it gets crazy, i wouldnt want my kids playing certain ONLINE games, thats why shit kicks off, but letting them run around shooting AI and bots doesnt cause the same rage, id much rather see them playing Mario Kart or doing the campaign of a COD game than getting involved with the online community, because even the older kids hardly help the younger kids they just wind them up to get a reaction, i know, i used to do it xD but means ive learnt from that, and no, i think it IS down to parents, but for me my choice would be consider what it is first
Niall - 9 years ago
What really is the problem here? Some scum who has let power get to their heads. Would the teachers be quick to report if one of their co-workers sexually abuses a child. The answer is NO, the predator would walk off with a massive pay-check. To that Amanda woman, I think your comments should be removed. I believe that these games are fine enough IN MODERATION. But children glued to a tv/computer screen for 24/7 I disagree with naturally.
Leslie Bedell - 9 years ago
Sorry if I have offended you, Amanda. I do agree with you that these games are poisonous both to children and adults. But the question was about whether or not teachers should be warning parents etc. etc. I have argued against such action.
Simon Morrison - 9 years ago
Teachers reporting students to the authorities for an illegal activity (that is strongly suspected of producing violence, sexual deviance and even murder - albeit only in a tiny minority of those who engage in it) are simply doing their citizens' duty of reporting/preventing illegal and, in this case, dangerous activities.
To parents who allow it I would say, 'What on earth do you think you are doing!? Do you want your children
to grow up thinking it's ok to break the law?' If you do make sure you only blame yourself if/when they get
into serious trouble. Meanwhile I suggest you look on the internet for the well known research into the connection between violent crime and violent video games.
Leslie Bedell - 9 years ago
Well done Richard! You are quite right to point out what really happens in schools and that teachers should concern themselves with whats happening under their noses but this will mean staying out of the staffroom and taking their childcare responsibilities more seriously.
Amanda - 9 years ago
I believe people like Richard, Dani, Leslie and others who are against this need to grow up and smell the coffee. These games promote murder, rape, theft, joyriding. Maybe one of those things needs to happen to your families and the game used as a defence. Then you'll agree with US teachers!
Leslie Bedell - 9 years ago
The greatest wisdom so far comes from Dani. Her voice is what adults (especially teachers) fear. Read and listen. The young have much more to teach us than the total of all academic knowledge. When you forget how it was for you as a child you are destined to oppress the young, demonise them and their parents and problematise child care to the extent it becomes an abnormal process.
Richard Smart - 9 years ago
This is yet another opression of "Free Speech". What the teachers should be more worried about is the fact underage students will mingle in the toilets at break & lunch, underage students can access pornography in the playground and swap porn videos via bluetooth and social media. Teachers sometimes can dress like hookers (excuse my terminology). Teachers play students movies during class wha has sexualised material and violent material. Vote NO and don't be a sheep!
Dani - 9 years ago
I'm a 16 year old female, 17 this year. When I read this article and seen that the parent(s) of the child will be charged with neglect I feel that this is an overstatement. I have myself played Grand Theft Auto at the age of 13 and I'm a high achieving student and haven't committed violence like that of games which have age restrictions. As long as you supervise your child or make sure their behaviour is appropriate at home and at school, and elsewhere. I strongly believe that this isn't regret, this is just giving the child a sense of freedom and not every single child who plays violent games turns out to be a murderer or a psychopath which newspapers tend to glorify, it's a small minority which turn out to become criminals in later life. Parents should be allowed to make these decisions as they know their child better than anyone and if they believe their child will be affected then let them restrict them, however if they feel their child is responsible and has a right mind set then they shouldn't be prosecuted for making that decision. I know people will agree and disagree with my statement, however I'm certain that I am not the only one who thinks this and believes this.
Leslie Bedell - 9 years ago
OF COURSE children should not be playing games meant for adults. (Should even adults be playing these games?) But the question was really about whether or not teachers should be warning parents about letting them play such games with the implication that they (the teachers) will report the parents for neglect. Let the teaching establishment get its own house in order first.
Ciaran Coyle - 9 years ago
Look, 18+ games has done me no harm. Even at school the topic is NOT 18+ games. I dont get the idea on why parents cant make their own decisions? Nobody is stopping late teens watching pornography but stopping young children from experiencing a game on a disc. Wow, humanity can suck sometimes
Niamh - 9 years ago
Children have their own minds, morals and preferences but as the older sister of a 15 year old boy who has autistic traits and is never off the Xbox I can say that I have seen the difference in him from before his +18 were taken away to now. They were taken away after he got into trouble at school for an incident I believe his games may have influenced. You wouldn't allow a child to watch a war film or see pictures of grievous bodily harm so why let them simulate a war zone or a police chase or point blank murder?
You have the right to free will and the decision making ability to choose what games you or your children play but you have a responsibility to ensure your children are going to grow into moral, socially conscious and positively empowered adults - and I believe excess exposure to inappropriate gaming could affect this.
Becca - 9 years ago
From the minute my children were born I have had an overwhelming desire to protect them from violence of any kind, including watching it or taking part in it in a "game". That half of the parents in this poll didn't experience that kind of emotion to the birth if their child astounds me. It makes me so sad.
Leslie Bedell - 9 years ago
The questions are loaded. Parents should be left to parent. They already know the dangers and legality of underage children viewing inappropriate material which is often available on the school playground. The pontificating of the teachers is priceless considering how the profession abrogated its responsibility in key areas of childcare. Collectively they refuse to provide for the medical needs of pupils through dispensation of medication seeing this as a 'voluntary' activity and the 'prime responsibility' of the parent despite the fact that they have a legal duty of care during the school day. Bullying remains rife despite the huge efforts to deal with the issue and which largely locate the problem with (yet again) the parents rather than considering how the schools own culture and philosophy contributes. And finally its strange how the teaching profession continually claims credit for the academic achievement of their pupils yet the 'failures' are attributed to, yet again, the parents. Teachers may be able to teach but child care is much more than just that. Neglect of what young people need to achieve self-efficacy is endemic in the state education system.
Cal - 9 years ago
Children shouldn't be playing games of this type as thy are too violent. And as for leaving parents to the parenting, have you seen how some parents are With their children It's appalling. Too many kids left to their own devices for too long because parents don't do anything with them. And saying that you work is no excuse. Some parents work full time and still manage to take them for outings. And if you don't work walks are free.
Jim - 9 years ago
as a parent of two children, one 13 and one 9, I have made my decision on my children's ability and understanding, my 13 year old is a typical teenager who knows right from wrong and my 9 year old has a leaning disability and autisum. My 9 year old loves all things cars, the faster the better, he plays racing games for 7+ but they're not fast enough, he is an adrenalin junkie, we let him play GTA , with our supervision in the lounge,as this keeps his focus more, he doesn't understand the concept of the game just that he gets cars and gets chased by the police. He will tell us when the language is not appropriate by saying "--------- has said an adult word".Does this mean I NEGLECT my son or am I supporting him and letting him enjoy what he likes. If you don't live my life feel free to come and join me on my adventure, otherwise please don't judge.
Kierren - 9 years ago
i agree but also have to disagree with this as me my self have played games with have been rated a 15 but have had alot worst and more mental difficult than some 18 which ive played. Also if parents just want to stick them infront of a console to play thats there own fault when they should been explaining that what they are playing is not real and they shouldnt take it all to heart or head. Also many parents do not understand whats in the games or what the game is about when they buy it for their kid. So to be completely honest i think that the parents are to blame not the kids as there the ones buying them the games and not knowing anything about it
adam - 9 years ago
Only reason people voted bo are the irresponsible parents who let there damn kids do as they please for an easier life, result is a lot of young adults not giving a damn about their actions or the consequences. #lazy parenting!
kathleen - 9 years ago
I agree completely. I have seen the reaction in children being allowed to play these. As a teen mum I didn't stop my eldest. I didn't know what was in these games I thought he would be fine. But he wasn't. He was impressionable and the games did affect him. Some children may understand that its just a game. But how do you really know which child you have??? My youngest is five and has been raised differently and so far he is kinder, gentler and a much more laid back person. And I do truly believe its the games. I even stopped him being exposed to adult programmes and stupid cartoons. My 17 year old talks like some sort of gangster and is living in a world where he thinks life has no consequences. I can't say its completely the fault of games there is more to it and him, but the games did not help. He would become aggressive when playing them, and when asked to stop. And as for grand theft auto. He would come away treating my daughter terribly. Thinking it was ok to hit a girl. I tried to police it but honestly, the complexity of his character made this hard. And now he is the real police problem. I regret not knowing what my son was playing and putting a stop to it. My youngest loves his tom.and jerry and mickey mouse. He loves car racing games and he loves wii sport. He doesn't need to see people blown up, cars being stolen and "prostitute's" being shot!!!!!!! Enough bad in the world right now without getting them completely immersed and in charge of it.
jan gresham - 9 years ago
Since under 18's cannot buy the games from the shop, it was my decision which games my child could have.
My decisions were not based so much on the content of the game but the complexity. The game would also have to have a separate manual book which my child would have to read before they were allowed the game.
My child has dyslexia and these games helped to improve his everyday memory ,organisational skills and thought processes.
I understand these reasons will not be the same for every parent and child but they were the right decisions to help my child improve the way he processes information .
Christine ames - 9 years ago
Earlier this month, the Prime Minister said social workers, councillors and teachers could be jailed for up to five years if they failed to speak up when they suspected or received allegations that children were being ill-treated, abused or wilfully neglected.
This is the reason as to why schools will be stepping up in reporting parents!!! They don't give a damn as to what they watch or play once at home, they will report it
to save their own skins!!!
This is a joke, SS already take children from innocent happy family homes, and not always through just cause, the schools need to help more to combat the bullying that happens in the school!!
But to use the school staff in this way is diabolical as it will no doubt cause them serious problems with the parents they will report!!!
All this over a game!!!
Maybe all porn should be banned to stop the peados!!
Today's society!!! Ruined by biggots who haven't a clue how to live the real world!!!
And what about this boy
Band splitting up!!
Maybe they should all be reported and banned!!
Especially after the horrific pictures all over showing how the teen fans sliced their arms up because of them splitting!!!
I as a parent would be more concerned with dealing with this situation,, much more so than any game made!!!
Ben - 9 years ago
Another daft poll about video games being bad. I remember in school we watched videos about Hitler.. I went home that day and slaughtered 28,000 people before I realised what I was doing. What nonsense. If your child, or anyone for that matter can't tell the difference between right and wrong, it's either a mental issue or they don't know any better because no one taught them. Teachers or parents.
Yvonne burton - 9 years ago
i can't believe that almost 42% of parents think it's ok to allow their kids to see adult material!!! What is happening in our world these days? No wonder we have so many social problems!!!
kim - 9 years ago
This is just going tp far. We already are governed on how to parent our own children and what we feed them and how we talk to them. Its getting to the ppoint where teachers have more parental control then the actual parents.
guy - 9 years ago
Teachers should stick to teaching and leave parents to do parenting. They wouldn't like it if parents went into school and told teachers how to teach.
If kids don't play the game at home they'll go to a friends house to play them.
karl - 9 years ago
iv been playing 18 rated games since i was 8 or 9 from gta to resident evil on the ps1 in the 90's. i dont see a problem with this. its up to the parent. they know if there child can play these games or not.
amanda - 9 years ago
Lucy, you could tell him to make sure your daughter will be in bed before he puts anything of that nature on... I dont think the age of 15 is too bad as oppose to the age of 12, but having said that, they do set age restrictions for a reason.
Paul - 9 years ago
It's shocking that the parents aren't enforcing the age limit themselves! They should b ashamed of them selves. Theirs age limits on them for a reason, grow a pair and tell the child it's not appropriate!
Lucy - 9 years ago
My ex-husband has brought and allowed my son to play gears of war, plus many Dvds that are an 18 (ted, fright night etc) this means that my five year old daughter is also seeing them all. I hate it and want it to stop. The thing that worries me most though, is that he shows no emotion or fear to the content, just to the thought of not being able to watch/play them or that his Dad will be I trouble......what do I do?!?!?!?!
If that's the case can we as parents report schools for teaching sex education in yr3 because I believe that is why rates of teen pregnancy is on the rise
Teachers and headmasters should SHUT UP AND TEACH!! As a parent I would thank teachers to mind their own damned business outside of schools and keep their heads and their noses in the classrooms where they bloody well belong!!! TEACH!! That's IT!!!
It's the law that schools must report anything illegal.
It's illegal for children to play them therefore schools are legally bound to report it.
It likely wont be acted on but it must be reported incase there is an incident later on that is related to the illegal activity...you know like abducting and torturing a small child on train tracks.
These games have been proven to trigger the addiction centre in your brain. I wouldn't let my kids play any game for more than 30 mins at a time. Lucy your child is addicted and you need to wean him down or go cold turkey.
All the people who have been done "no harm" by playing violent, lawless, mysogenistic (women are for decoration) games from an early age ... How can you tell how much better you might have become if you hadn't played them?
All those allowing their kids to play ...would you let them watch an 18 movie ? ... The reasons for games and movies being rated 18 are the same.
To the man whose child can repeat the rite words 'it's just a game' .... He can learn to say that to you long before he understands what it means ... Until around 8-10 years of age children have magical thinking and the borders between what's real and what's not are very blurred. Hence belief in fairies etc is absolute and unquestioned. You can't understand what your child really thinks if the games because your way of thinking is so different from his ... Ask him "what does that mean?" When he says its just a game ... He's just trying to please you, saying what you want him to say.
100 years ago many of these kids would've been dead or down mines or up chimneys or in service or in workhouses. Only for the last few decades have we had laws to protect childhood. Those laws say under age 13 you are too emotionally young to understand sex. You see hookers, porn, abusive relationships you can't put them into the right context because you don't fully understand a normal healthy relationship ...
Why are you trying to fight a move that is trying to let your children stay safe and innocent until they're teenagers ? Who wouldn't want that for their kids ?
An utterly ridiculous statement to be made, from the age of 6 I played GTA, Medal Of Honour, Resident Evil and many other 18+ games. I have faced just 1 "criminal" fine (not a charge) for petty vandalism (marker tags) aged 17, this wasn't due to the games I played as a kid! This was because of a personal choice to deface a piece of public property. Now 25 and a father of 2 I really don't mind my 7yo son playing CoD or Gears of War as he is clever enough to understand its a game!!! I've never even had to explain that to him. It was him who came to me and said "daddy, see on call of duty? That's just pretend eh?"
To which I replied "yes, and it's fun to play pretend".
Why are schools being so uptight about computer games? I'm more concerned about the content of some kids shows! How can someone say games are too violent when there are programs like Power Rangers which have real actors fighting like ninjas and shooting blasters. This is what I deem to be violently influencing our children.... Oh that and football hooliganism that minors are witnessing first hand, which is the main reason I don't want to take my son to a football game. I would rather he played a violent game which he knows is not real life than expose him to drunken, loud, obnoxious and violent football thugs
I have 5 children, the oldest ia 20, youngest is 6. I am not a 'lazy parent' nor am I abusing/neglecting them. They play video games at the weekends, favourite one being Call of Duty. They have them all, between them, and also downloadable content. I even play with them sometimes!! But never in all this time have any of them attempted to grow dodgy beards, wear army gear while running around shooting people. I have took the time to explain it is a GAME, not real. I mean, seriously, how many people believe being shot, and getting up is true to life. My 6 yr old has known for a long time that once you're dead, that's it. And believe it or not, they are all quite aware that zombies are not real either!!!
I love my kids with everything I am, and there isn't a thing I wouldn't do to protect them. But I also have a responsibility to teach basic, fundamental social skills and morals. I've taught them stealing is wrong, as is being violent to other people. I noticed one comment where she was quite proud her youngest son loves tom and Jerry, but I remember watching them forever trying to kill each, and stealing as well.
These games only become a problem if parents allow them to. Maybe if they tried teaching their kids right from wrong, there wouldn't be such a problem.
This poll is not consistent with the related news article. The article states that head teachers are stating that they are going to report parents who let their children play adult computergames to the police.the poll asks if head teachers should simply warn parents of their children playing adult computer games.
no i do not agree to this. this actually happened to me with my child and because of the power the teachers now have they reported me to social services witch resulted in my children being removed from my house saying i was negleting them and sent to the fathers. they got everything wrong as i dont even own any console in my house it was the father that played the silly game with them but because they did not listen i now dont get to see my children. all over a stupid game. sickens me that this actually happens.
This is absolutely ridiculous,who are they to tell parents how to bring up their children,the police need to concentrate on the real problems,peadophiles and murderers because it isn't save these days for children to play out,i'm a mother of 3 and i would rather have them indoors playing games for whatever age,it's my decision because their MY children and be safe x
I would rather my son played an 18 Xbox game under my supervision than he be hanging around outside McDonald's swearing and swigging cider from the bottle. Head teachers should be concentrating on reporting parents who are abusing there kids not trying to parent them.
Stop being so pc everyone. I used to play all the latest call of dutys, as soon as they came out since call of duty 4 which made me about 13 years old, I personally don't think I've done too bad in my grades at school as I came out with 8 GCSEs, I also really used to (and still do) enjoy the grand theft auto games and I believe I aren't doing too bad in life from my countless hours on these video games as I've also done 3 college courses, 2 in mechanics 1 level 3 Motorsport, I have also got a security guarding sia badge coming my way very soon as I passed the test. And all this without a criminal due to my countless hours on all these violent video games. I personally think on this matter this is a completely ridiculous that it is classed as neglect if a child (anyone under the age of 18) is playing a slightly older game than they should. I haven't done bad in life even though I used to play all these games and more.
Most of you are being idiots,
Okay a child in primary school shouldnt be playing it, how you explain why someone was killed or mudered to an underage kid ill never know
But in secondary school its alright for an 11 year old to learn about sex and how that works, yet youre telling me that they cant play a game that involes shooting other people, like a child under 18 is going to go out and but a gun...
So we can teach them about sex but not let them play a HARMLESS video game, most of you parents are just being stupid and not thinking properly.
This is just madness having 3 kids under 18 I don't like these games. And I agree primary age children should not be playing them . however what's more worrying is we are no longer able to bring up our children as we see fit and we are becoming a dictataship nation in Britain where parents fear social services and schools . for actual children that are being abused this is not a good thing. Parents are pulling kids out of schools for this reason.
Ok this is a fair point but I would rather have kids watching or playing any sort of video game where the parents can regulate what they play or watch rather than them on the streets getting up to no good, where you cannot regulate or watch over em......SO WHATS IT GONNA BE HEAD TEACHERS VIDEO MISS
USE OR DRUG MISSUSE
theres sobs real thicko's commenting on this and clearly missing the point...my 3yr old watches kids tv and mimics what he sees on screen ...kids mimic what they see and hear and that includes older kids aswell...to have them growing up thinking nothing of stabbing folk onscreen or blowing their heads off etc etc desensitises them toward violence...they grow up thinking it's ok to hit a guy on the head with a bottle because he'll just get back up again...anyone with half a brain cell knows there's a link and yes I agree that the parents should be preventing their kids from playing such games but the fact of the matter is that they aren't ...there's always the moans n groans about being told what to do and cries of PC gone mad but I bet the parents and families whose loved ones are bottled or assaulted or knifed on the streets of Britain each day would soon change their opinion when the shit hits the fan in their own little bubble...there's a link ...face it....letting young kids play these games is wrong...end of.
I'm 17 and have been playing games from an early age. My parents have been responsible and have not allowed me to play 18+ games until I was about 14 or 15.
Games have taught me a hell of a lot that school never would - life lessons, social skills and empathy, to name a few. Games allow me to escape when I'm feeling down, have allowed me to forge friendships, acting as a mutual hobby between me and others, and have very possibly set me up for a career (helping to develop games).
As for promoting murder, theft, rape etc. - some games make missteps, just like other mediums do, such as books and films. While I do not believe that these missteps will influence children any more than books or films will, yes, potentially harmful attitudes can be displayed in games. When they are, however, the overwhelming majority of players stand up against them and let the developers know that they are not happy, and thus them missteps are less likely to happen in the future. Most games, even 18+ games, have a lot of good to teach people. I, personally, feel more strongly than ever against mistreating people, especially in horrific ways such as rape, murder and cyberbullying. And I genuinely believe that games have played a role in strengthening that in my mind.
Let's not focus on the Call of Dutys and the Grand Theft Autos (GTA in specific, I would not let children under 16 or so play. I dislike it myself, due to the racism, sexism, homophobia, biphobia, transphobia etc. present. Call of Duty isn't so bad), and let's focus on TellTale's The Walking Dead, The Last of Us, the Dragon Age series, the Mass Effect trilogy, Life is Strange, Gone Home and Thomas Was Alone, as examples. While these may not be names that are familiar to you if you do not play games, they are all games, many of them 18+, that have taught me a lot about life. Without these games, I genuinely do not believe I'd be as good a person as I am.
All of this to say that my parents were very responsible, did not let me play any game at any age, but did allow me to play pretty much what I chose to when I was about 14 or 15 - and it has genuinely helped me to develop as a person. For me, games aren't about shooting people. They're about deep stories, meaningful relationships, and worlds to escape into. Just keep that in mind.
Simon is quite right that teachers should report child protection concerns but Niall is also right to point out the well publicised reluctance and failure of the teaching establishment to report suspected and actual child sexual abuse when one of their colleagues is involved (which you can also read about on the internet, Simon). Given my comments about other areas where the teaching profession has abrogated its responsibilities can this move by a small group of teachers be seen as a smokescreen?
I believe it is not a decision that a head teacher should make, if parents deem these games inappropriate then they should be the ones to stop their children playing them. Children may be becoming desensitized by this kind of content, but I really don't see the harm in it. These games are made for entertainment, and they do a good job at that. This whole argument is ridiculous; it's not like these children have access to weaponry, and will imitate actions seen in video games, they play them purely for the fun, often with friends, and it's a way that they can have fun together and be sociable with each other. I feel strongly that violent themes in particular are not a cause of concern and teachers need to keep out of parent's decisions.
Spose these 18+ games are harmless for most underage kids. Just like if you told a load of young kids to run
across a busy 70 mph highway for fun most would make it to the other side and give
each other high fives. One or two would no doubt get squashed(just like with these games) but hey! - that's the game!
Actually... think I could make a nice little game outa that!
Leslie has a point that teachers should be more aware at what's going on within their own premises. Amanda should watch what she says especially online. Richard I agree with what he says also. Katherine has raised a perfectly good point. I believe everyone's opinions should be respected. I've never played these games but I don't see why the teachers should be deciding what is right & wrong in this society. The teachers didn't carry the pupils for nine months in a womb.
I've read through all the comments here, some worry me whereas some don't. But nobody has asked, the teachers who are part of this reporting, what if they are buying the games for their children if they're underage? Calling the kettle black?
But i would also agree that Amanda in the comments here is a complete moron without even a tiny amount of understanding about todays games, not it doesnt "encourage" anything, because lets face it your talking about grand theft auto, a game where you can also FLY A CAR!!!!! yes thats right because THAT is normal right? no ofcourse not, you can also carry around 20 weapons at once including 2 RPG's that most men wouldnt even be able to carry in real life, you can also get the ARMY after you, which isnt realistic either, the point being that people do NOT take these games seriously, and if you have a child that for some unknown reason believes everything he sees then you should be seriously worried enough to get him help before letting him do ANYTHING nevermind play games, but that doesnt effect everyone, ive been playing GTA since i was a little kid and ive never once considered doing anything ive done in the games ever, the most ive ever wanted to do was done some super powers after playing various superhero games which again, is just not possible.
This yet again. Is pc gone mad personally I don't have a problem my grandson age 9 plays,all the new games and so do most of his friends I'm normally in the same room and whilst the games are 18 I don't see anything that can harm him he chats and plays with his friends all from the safety of the house he's not out and in any danger from perverts and pedos but still as fun as he's still interacting in play with his friends he laughs and jokes and learns to lose as well as win how long will it be before we are reported for allowing them to eat junk food as that's also neglecting their health they are our children and ultimately our responsibility so there for the choices we make for them is down to us
Having grown up with parents that let me watch and play whatever i wanted growing up, i have to still be honest about this, i dont think its a good idea to have kids playing the types of 18+ games we have today, for me it was stuff like GTA1 xD and robocop, both of which have the most unrealistic gore in them that is hardly taken seriously. but i play COD for instance, and all you get is all the underage kids whining and crying and being racist and insulting anyone around them, then being quiet when their parents come along, its pathetic and is likely to cause some serious development problems if they continue to push this other side of themselves and it starts coming out in public, it enrages some kids to the point of descruction, and i think its more the online aspect, playing a single player can be frustrating, but when there is a PERSON to blame for your losses they will go ape shit and it gets crazy, i wouldnt want my kids playing certain ONLINE games, thats why shit kicks off, but letting them run around shooting AI and bots doesnt cause the same rage, id much rather see them playing Mario Kart or doing the campaign of a COD game than getting involved with the online community, because even the older kids hardly help the younger kids they just wind them up to get a reaction, i know, i used to do it xD but means ive learnt from that, and no, i think it IS down to parents, but for me my choice would be consider what it is first
What really is the problem here? Some scum who has let power get to their heads. Would the teachers be quick to report if one of their co-workers sexually abuses a child. The answer is NO, the predator would walk off with a massive pay-check. To that Amanda woman, I think your comments should be removed. I believe that these games are fine enough IN MODERATION. But children glued to a tv/computer screen for 24/7 I disagree with naturally.
Sorry if I have offended you, Amanda. I do agree with you that these games are poisonous both to children and adults. But the question was about whether or not teachers should be warning parents etc. etc. I have argued against such action.
Teachers reporting students to the authorities for an illegal activity (that is strongly suspected of producing violence, sexual deviance and even murder - albeit only in a tiny minority of those who engage in it) are simply doing their citizens' duty of reporting/preventing illegal and, in this case, dangerous activities.
To parents who allow it I would say, 'What on earth do you think you are doing!? Do you want your children
to grow up thinking it's ok to break the law?' If you do make sure you only blame yourself if/when they get
into serious trouble. Meanwhile I suggest you look on the internet for the well known research into the connection between violent crime and violent video games.
Well done Richard! You are quite right to point out what really happens in schools and that teachers should concern themselves with whats happening under their noses but this will mean staying out of the staffroom and taking their childcare responsibilities more seriously.
I believe people like Richard, Dani, Leslie and others who are against this need to grow up and smell the coffee. These games promote murder, rape, theft, joyriding. Maybe one of those things needs to happen to your families and the game used as a defence. Then you'll agree with US teachers!
The greatest wisdom so far comes from Dani. Her voice is what adults (especially teachers) fear. Read and listen. The young have much more to teach us than the total of all academic knowledge. When you forget how it was for you as a child you are destined to oppress the young, demonise them and their parents and problematise child care to the extent it becomes an abnormal process.
This is yet another opression of "Free Speech". What the teachers should be more worried about is the fact underage students will mingle in the toilets at break & lunch, underage students can access pornography in the playground and swap porn videos via bluetooth and social media. Teachers sometimes can dress like hookers (excuse my terminology). Teachers play students movies during class wha has sexualised material and violent material. Vote NO and don't be a sheep!
I'm a 16 year old female, 17 this year. When I read this article and seen that the parent(s) of the child will be charged with neglect I feel that this is an overstatement. I have myself played Grand Theft Auto at the age of 13 and I'm a high achieving student and haven't committed violence like that of games which have age restrictions. As long as you supervise your child or make sure their behaviour is appropriate at home and at school, and elsewhere. I strongly believe that this isn't regret, this is just giving the child a sense of freedom and not every single child who plays violent games turns out to be a murderer or a psychopath which newspapers tend to glorify, it's a small minority which turn out to become criminals in later life. Parents should be allowed to make these decisions as they know their child better than anyone and if they believe their child will be affected then let them restrict them, however if they feel their child is responsible and has a right mind set then they shouldn't be prosecuted for making that decision. I know people will agree and disagree with my statement, however I'm certain that I am not the only one who thinks this and believes this.
OF COURSE children should not be playing games meant for adults. (Should even adults be playing these games?) But the question was really about whether or not teachers should be warning parents about letting them play such games with the implication that they (the teachers) will report the parents for neglect. Let the teaching establishment get its own house in order first.
Look, 18+ games has done me no harm. Even at school the topic is NOT 18+ games. I dont get the idea on why parents cant make their own decisions? Nobody is stopping late teens watching pornography but stopping young children from experiencing a game on a disc. Wow, humanity can suck sometimes
Children have their own minds, morals and preferences but as the older sister of a 15 year old boy who has autistic traits and is never off the Xbox I can say that I have seen the difference in him from before his +18 were taken away to now. They were taken away after he got into trouble at school for an incident I believe his games may have influenced. You wouldn't allow a child to watch a war film or see pictures of grievous bodily harm so why let them simulate a war zone or a police chase or point blank murder?
You have the right to free will and the decision making ability to choose what games you or your children play but you have a responsibility to ensure your children are going to grow into moral, socially conscious and positively empowered adults - and I believe excess exposure to inappropriate gaming could affect this.
From the minute my children were born I have had an overwhelming desire to protect them from violence of any kind, including watching it or taking part in it in a "game". That half of the parents in this poll didn't experience that kind of emotion to the birth if their child astounds me. It makes me so sad.
The questions are loaded. Parents should be left to parent. They already know the dangers and legality of underage children viewing inappropriate material which is often available on the school playground. The pontificating of the teachers is priceless considering how the profession abrogated its responsibility in key areas of childcare. Collectively they refuse to provide for the medical needs of pupils through dispensation of medication seeing this as a 'voluntary' activity and the 'prime responsibility' of the parent despite the fact that they have a legal duty of care during the school day. Bullying remains rife despite the huge efforts to deal with the issue and which largely locate the problem with (yet again) the parents rather than considering how the schools own culture and philosophy contributes. And finally its strange how the teaching profession continually claims credit for the academic achievement of their pupils yet the 'failures' are attributed to, yet again, the parents. Teachers may be able to teach but child care is much more than just that. Neglect of what young people need to achieve self-efficacy is endemic in the state education system.
Children shouldn't be playing games of this type as thy are too violent. And as for leaving parents to the parenting, have you seen how some parents are With their children It's appalling. Too many kids left to their own devices for too long because parents don't do anything with them. And saying that you work is no excuse. Some parents work full time and still manage to take them for outings. And if you don't work walks are free.
as a parent of two children, one 13 and one 9, I have made my decision on my children's ability and understanding, my 13 year old is a typical teenager who knows right from wrong and my 9 year old has a leaning disability and autisum. My 9 year old loves all things cars, the faster the better, he plays racing games for 7+ but they're not fast enough, he is an adrenalin junkie, we let him play GTA , with our supervision in the lounge,as this keeps his focus more, he doesn't understand the concept of the game just that he gets cars and gets chased by the police. He will tell us when the language is not appropriate by saying "--------- has said an adult word".Does this mean I NEGLECT my son or am I supporting him and letting him enjoy what he likes. If you don't live my life feel free to come and join me on my adventure, otherwise please don't judge.
i agree but also have to disagree with this as me my self have played games with have been rated a 15 but have had alot worst and more mental difficult than some 18 which ive played. Also if parents just want to stick them infront of a console to play thats there own fault when they should been explaining that what they are playing is not real and they shouldnt take it all to heart or head. Also many parents do not understand whats in the games or what the game is about when they buy it for their kid. So to be completely honest i think that the parents are to blame not the kids as there the ones buying them the games and not knowing anything about it
Only reason people voted bo are the irresponsible parents who let there damn kids do as they please for an easier life, result is a lot of young adults not giving a damn about their actions or the consequences. #lazy parenting!
I agree completely. I have seen the reaction in children being allowed to play these. As a teen mum I didn't stop my eldest. I didn't know what was in these games I thought he would be fine. But he wasn't. He was impressionable and the games did affect him. Some children may understand that its just a game. But how do you really know which child you have??? My youngest is five and has been raised differently and so far he is kinder, gentler and a much more laid back person. And I do truly believe its the games. I even stopped him being exposed to adult programmes and stupid cartoons. My 17 year old talks like some sort of gangster and is living in a world where he thinks life has no consequences. I can't say its completely the fault of games there is more to it and him, but the games did not help. He would become aggressive when playing them, and when asked to stop. And as for grand theft auto. He would come away treating my daughter terribly. Thinking it was ok to hit a girl. I tried to police it but honestly, the complexity of his character made this hard. And now he is the real police problem. I regret not knowing what my son was playing and putting a stop to it. My youngest loves his tom.and jerry and mickey mouse. He loves car racing games and he loves wii sport. He doesn't need to see people blown up, cars being stolen and "prostitute's" being shot!!!!!!! Enough bad in the world right now without getting them completely immersed and in charge of it.
Since under 18's cannot buy the games from the shop, it was my decision which games my child could have.
My decisions were not based so much on the content of the game but the complexity. The game would also have to have a separate manual book which my child would have to read before they were allowed the game.
My child has dyslexia and these games helped to improve his everyday memory ,organisational skills and thought processes.
I understand these reasons will not be the same for every parent and child but they were the right decisions to help my child improve the way he processes information .
Earlier this month, the Prime Minister said social workers, councillors and teachers could be jailed for up to five years if they failed to speak up when they suspected or received allegations that children were being ill-treated, abused or wilfully neglected.
This is the reason as to why schools will be stepping up in reporting parents!!! They don't give a damn as to what they watch or play once at home, they will report it
to save their own skins!!!
This is a joke, SS already take children from innocent happy family homes, and not always through just cause, the schools need to help more to combat the bullying that happens in the school!!
But to use the school staff in this way is diabolical as it will no doubt cause them serious problems with the parents they will report!!!
All this over a game!!!
Maybe all porn should be banned to stop the peados!!
Today's society!!! Ruined by biggots who haven't a clue how to live the real world!!!
And what about this boy
Band splitting up!!
Maybe they should all be reported and banned!!
Especially after the horrific pictures all over showing how the teen fans sliced their arms up because of them splitting!!!
I as a parent would be more concerned with dealing with this situation,, much more so than any game made!!!
Another daft poll about video games being bad. I remember in school we watched videos about Hitler.. I went home that day and slaughtered 28,000 people before I realised what I was doing. What nonsense. If your child, or anyone for that matter can't tell the difference between right and wrong, it's either a mental issue or they don't know any better because no one taught them. Teachers or parents.
i can't believe that almost 42% of parents think it's ok to allow their kids to see adult material!!! What is happening in our world these days? No wonder we have so many social problems!!!
This is just going tp far. We already are governed on how to parent our own children and what we feed them and how we talk to them. Its getting to the ppoint where teachers have more parental control then the actual parents.
Teachers should stick to teaching and leave parents to do parenting. They wouldn't like it if parents went into school and told teachers how to teach.
If kids don't play the game at home they'll go to a friends house to play them.
iv been playing 18 rated games since i was 8 or 9 from gta to resident evil on the ps1 in the 90's. i dont see a problem with this. its up to the parent. they know if there child can play these games or not.
Lucy, you could tell him to make sure your daughter will be in bed before he puts anything of that nature on... I dont think the age of 15 is too bad as oppose to the age of 12, but having said that, they do set age restrictions for a reason.
It's shocking that the parents aren't enforcing the age limit themselves! They should b ashamed of them selves. Theirs age limits on them for a reason, grow a pair and tell the child it's not appropriate!
My ex-husband has brought and allowed my son to play gears of war, plus many Dvds that are an 18 (ted, fright night etc) this means that my five year old daughter is also seeing them all. I hate it and want it to stop. The thing that worries me most though, is that he shows no emotion or fear to the content, just to the thought of not being able to watch/play them or that his Dad will be I trouble......what do I do?!?!?!?!