There is clearly blatant corruption going on within MPI. First we are told that legal advice they received said they don't have sufficient evidence to prosecute, now we're told they never got that legal advice! Clearly someone within the ministry is looking after his mates (possibly for a bribe), and that in plain English is called corruption. So the minister clearly did not check his source when he was told 'we received legal advice not to prosecute'. That makes him an 'unfit to conduct himself in a competent manner', and he should hand in his resignation with immediate affect.
mike beale - 8 years ago
This govt is only looking after the big boys when it comes to feathering their nest.Look at whats happend in Auckland.Cut the quota and size to rec fishos but let the commercial boys take under size fish and let them get away with dumping fish.The whole thing is a joke.This govt wont be getting my vote.
John Stuart - 8 years ago
Given the recreational fishery brings in more finance to the Country Han Commercial fishing does speaks volumes.
Furthermore the recreational side has endured lower limits,higher fish length ( Snapper) ,but the Commercial guys get more fish,lower size limits,yet still dump fish.They get caught by video cameras but ?NO prosecutions!!.
Shon - 8 years ago
How many sheep farmers send their sheep off to the market when they about to lamb management of the fishery during the breeding season is a must
Dom H - 8 years ago
I'd love to know why some people are voting NO???
Shane Allen - 8 years ago
MPI what a joke!, this has been going on for years just so the prospective Govts could reap the big dollars associated with the commercial fishing industry. All at the expense of our beautiful NZ fishery and making the unaware NZ public to look like fools. These ministers should actually be charged under NZs justice system for a breach of ethics and blatant disregard to NZ fishing guideline. Then we would see a complete turnaround in policing from the NZ Govt of our delicate and precious fishery
Cliff Morgan-French - 8 years ago
Time to stop sitting back and being a "She'll be right" K1W1. This is not just about the next few years and our generation. I want my Grandkids to be able to take their grandkids out for a fun day's fishing. I've just sent my very first email to my local MP, Todd Muller, to voice my concerns and my interest in his point of view on the subject. Let's get proactive and flick through a quick email to our local MPs and see if we can cause some change through our mass interest/enquiries to Parliament via our local representatives! Also let your mates know to do the same thing via your Facebook page etc (I know some of you may not have one, but what better excuse to start a Facebook Page than to use it to get involved in a movement to make a positive change in our collective fishing future!). Get involved. Kia kaha!
Tony McCourt - 8 years ago
The abuse by the commercial sector has to stop. It won't be too much longer before we are in the same position as many countries where over fishing has made them scarce. Add to over fishing and dumping the threat of radio active water moving around the oceans from Japan's Fukushima nuclear reactors and everywhere we look points to the necessity of good governance. The minister needs to focus on these very serious issues with some urgency . Like a previous correspondence said. He needs to get some balls and address the problems now. Wake up mr guy and get out of your sleepy stupor. Act now
P Lang - 8 years ago
Napier sport fishing club have been keeping catch records for over 15yrs which clearly shows the massive decline in fish stocks in the bay, when presented to maf there comment is , it's not scientific. What do they need. Stop everyone fishing snapper during sporning season would be a great start.
Rob Gillam - 8 years ago
Fifty years of my seventy odd years has been spent sport diving and rod fishing from the shore and boat around the NZ coast. Over this period i have seen both dumped fish at sea and fish washed up on the ninety mile beach. What a waste. The commercial boats have been hammering the inshore fisheries around the coast in the breeding season to such an extent that a lot of fish species are hard to find. The fish belong to the NZ public who entrust the minister of fisheries to manage their harvesting in a sustainable way, allowing plenty to be left for future KIWI sport and commercial fishing. Just like the recreational fisherman braking MAF rules, the commercial fisher, if proven guilty, should face the consequences of his actions for any law braking like dumping fish.
Steve - 8 years ago
It's pathetic that industry gets away with such unbridled waste and law breaking, while increasingly the finger gets pointed at recreational fishers as the cause of depleted fish stocks. What a joke!!
Brett Edmonds - 8 years ago
The cost to everyone will continue to rise as fish stocks are depleted - the consumer will pay more, independent recreational retailers will suffer and it will cost their fisher clients more to go further to catch their decreasingly small fish and even smaller bag limits. Fish restaurant meals are already expensive enough. Do we really want to leave this downward spiralling legacy?
Most importantly, it will deny our children and grandchildren their rights and their choices. This is an ongoing problem that only People - Power can change. The time for change is now - time to speak up
Ray Rowling - 8 years ago
Yes stop them all from fishing until its sorted out like some one said they'd do it to the reg fisherman .We here in the Hawkes Bay are going to start our own protest against them trawling in the Bay
Bruce WALTON - 8 years ago
Stop all commercail fishing until MPI sorts their act out Thats what they do to recreational.
This suituation has been going on for years its time to sort out. We want fish available to all not just the rich
Bag limits are making recreational based business harder. We all should start rocking the boat
Imac - 8 years ago
The quota system was set up in 1986 by the labour government, so lets not bag the current lot (government) for the mess that is.
Commercial stake holders have to much say (control)
Government department don't have legal authority (big enough balls) to take the commercial stake holders task
Consumers keep supporting a corrupt business model
Blanket ban all fishing for two years and see what happens
Mike Dennehy - 8 years ago
Outrageous decision not to prosecute, and to use the excuse that "we didn't want to get off-side with the industry" is the equivalent of NZ Police not issuing infringement notices say, to truckies that worked longer hours or had over-weight loads.
MPI is putting a rabbit in charge of a lettuce.
MBS - 8 years ago
This is just scandalous and dismaying. Imagine if the ACC manager squandered 40% of the fund? Those fish are public assets which should be managed in trust for the public. This is govts fundamental role and they clearly are corrupt, inept, and obtuse! If you needed a canary in the coal mine for the end of representatives democracy look no further. And as far as the public goes good luck. Even anti hunting vegan social justice warriors could give a stuff about fish!
Murray Kinred - 8 years ago
The position of MPI and the minister has been made quite clear with the allocation of the video monitoring system on commercial boats to a company owned by commercial fishers! Unless we can stir things up and get some sort of independent enquiry nothing's going to change. Mind you with this lots attitude there's no guarantee that they will make any changes even with an enquiry .......god forbid we should upset big business!
chris - 8 years ago
people that don't fish or are not the out doors type just don't give a dam i'm afraid- unless the price of fish changes at the supermarket
Mike Lynds - 8 years ago
These rules are made for a purpose. They are a not made for a lip service and the current transgressions are typical of how this fishery is managed with no reins and more importantly a seemingly lack of appreciation of what is actually required here. The CEO comes up with a typical response of one who is playing the game and not rocking the boat of the masters and their major clients the commercial boys. It requires a galvanisation of people power to send this government packing. Catching everything and not turning a hair means this has to stop and now
There is clearly blatant corruption going on within MPI. First we are told that legal advice they received said they don't have sufficient evidence to prosecute, now we're told they never got that legal advice! Clearly someone within the ministry is looking after his mates (possibly for a bribe), and that in plain English is called corruption. So the minister clearly did not check his source when he was told 'we received legal advice not to prosecute'. That makes him an 'unfit to conduct himself in a competent manner', and he should hand in his resignation with immediate affect.
This govt is only looking after the big boys when it comes to feathering their nest.Look at whats happend in Auckland.Cut the quota and size to rec fishos but let the commercial boys take under size fish and let them get away with dumping fish.The whole thing is a joke.This govt wont be getting my vote.
Given the recreational fishery brings in more finance to the Country Han Commercial fishing does speaks volumes.
Furthermore the recreational side has endured lower limits,higher fish length ( Snapper) ,but the Commercial guys get more fish,lower size limits,yet still dump fish.They get caught by video cameras but ?NO prosecutions!!.
How many sheep farmers send their sheep off to the market when they about to lamb management of the fishery during the breeding season is a must
I'd love to know why some people are voting NO???
MPI what a joke!, this has been going on for years just so the prospective Govts could reap the big dollars associated with the commercial fishing industry. All at the expense of our beautiful NZ fishery and making the unaware NZ public to look like fools. These ministers should actually be charged under NZs justice system for a breach of ethics and blatant disregard to NZ fishing guideline. Then we would see a complete turnaround in policing from the NZ Govt of our delicate and precious fishery
Time to stop sitting back and being a "She'll be right" K1W1. This is not just about the next few years and our generation. I want my Grandkids to be able to take their grandkids out for a fun day's fishing. I've just sent my very first email to my local MP, Todd Muller, to voice my concerns and my interest in his point of view on the subject. Let's get proactive and flick through a quick email to our local MPs and see if we can cause some change through our mass interest/enquiries to Parliament via our local representatives! Also let your mates know to do the same thing via your Facebook page etc (I know some of you may not have one, but what better excuse to start a Facebook Page than to use it to get involved in a movement to make a positive change in our collective fishing future!). Get involved. Kia kaha!
The abuse by the commercial sector has to stop. It won't be too much longer before we are in the same position as many countries where over fishing has made them scarce. Add to over fishing and dumping the threat of radio active water moving around the oceans from Japan's Fukushima nuclear reactors and everywhere we look points to the necessity of good governance. The minister needs to focus on these very serious issues with some urgency . Like a previous correspondence said. He needs to get some balls and address the problems now. Wake up mr guy and get out of your sleepy stupor. Act now
Napier sport fishing club have been keeping catch records for over 15yrs which clearly shows the massive decline in fish stocks in the bay, when presented to maf there comment is , it's not scientific. What do they need. Stop everyone fishing snapper during sporning season would be a great start.
Fifty years of my seventy odd years has been spent sport diving and rod fishing from the shore and boat around the NZ coast. Over this period i have seen both dumped fish at sea and fish washed up on the ninety mile beach. What a waste. The commercial boats have been hammering the inshore fisheries around the coast in the breeding season to such an extent that a lot of fish species are hard to find. The fish belong to the NZ public who entrust the minister of fisheries to manage their harvesting in a sustainable way, allowing plenty to be left for future KIWI sport and commercial fishing. Just like the recreational fisherman braking MAF rules, the commercial fisher, if proven guilty, should face the consequences of his actions for any law braking like dumping fish.
It's pathetic that industry gets away with such unbridled waste and law breaking, while increasingly the finger gets pointed at recreational fishers as the cause of depleted fish stocks. What a joke!!
The cost to everyone will continue to rise as fish stocks are depleted - the consumer will pay more, independent recreational retailers will suffer and it will cost their fisher clients more to go further to catch their decreasingly small fish and even smaller bag limits. Fish restaurant meals are already expensive enough. Do we really want to leave this downward spiralling legacy?
Most importantly, it will deny our children and grandchildren their rights and their choices. This is an ongoing problem that only People - Power can change. The time for change is now - time to speak up
Yes stop them all from fishing until its sorted out like some one said they'd do it to the reg fisherman .We here in the Hawkes Bay are going to start our own protest against them trawling in the Bay
Stop all commercail fishing until MPI sorts their act out Thats what they do to recreational.
This suituation has been going on for years its time to sort out. We want fish available to all not just the rich
Bag limits are making recreational based business harder. We all should start rocking the boat
The quota system was set up in 1986 by the labour government, so lets not bag the current lot (government) for the mess that is.
Commercial stake holders have to much say (control)
Government department don't have legal authority (big enough balls) to take the commercial stake holders task
Consumers keep supporting a corrupt business model
Blanket ban all fishing for two years and see what happens
Outrageous decision not to prosecute, and to use the excuse that "we didn't want to get off-side with the industry" is the equivalent of NZ Police not issuing infringement notices say, to truckies that worked longer hours or had over-weight loads.
MPI is putting a rabbit in charge of a lettuce.
This is just scandalous and dismaying. Imagine if the ACC manager squandered 40% of the fund? Those fish are public assets which should be managed in trust for the public. This is govts fundamental role and they clearly are corrupt, inept, and obtuse! If you needed a canary in the coal mine for the end of representatives democracy look no further. And as far as the public goes good luck. Even anti hunting vegan social justice warriors could give a stuff about fish!
The position of MPI and the minister has been made quite clear with the allocation of the video monitoring system on commercial boats to a company owned by commercial fishers! Unless we can stir things up and get some sort of independent enquiry nothing's going to change. Mind you with this lots attitude there's no guarantee that they will make any changes even with an enquiry .......god forbid we should upset big business!
people that don't fish or are not the out doors type just don't give a dam i'm afraid- unless the price of fish changes at the supermarket
These rules are made for a purpose. They are a not made for a lip service and the current transgressions are typical of how this fishery is managed with no reins and more importantly a seemingly lack of appreciation of what is actually required here. The CEO comes up with a typical response of one who is playing the game and not rocking the boat of the masters and their major clients the commercial boys. It requires a galvanisation of people power to send this government packing. Catching everything and not turning a hair means this has to stop and now