Started losing interest in 2013 when they fraised my season ticket prices 50%. In 2014 they raised them again by 75%. In 2015 i bought a partial season package. In 2016 i bought a two month package that ended in November and I havent been back since. The team has become a farm team for the real contenders. No heart! No hussle! They are not competative and not even interesting. Overpaid for Turgulou! Traded away Gortat! Overpaid for Harris! Overpaid for Fournier. They make trade deals that have no value for themselves. Cant land a real Star! Its a Lose! Lose! Lose! Way of life for them now. Thank yiu Jacque Vaughn!
clifton wink - 7 years ago
You have an owner living in MI that put a guy in charge that's more worried about getting to his south beach tanning sessions, than running a proper front office. I stoped watching when Vaughn was hired as coach out of spite. And sure enough, its a shot show ever sense. But why should they care about being good. Being from Washington D.C. I'm used to cut throat media and fans that expect the best year in and out. Here they continue to sell out games when they are garbage. Until DeVos gets hit in the wallet, there is no reason to change. Most of the Magic fans I talk to are gullible beyond belief and live on another planet. There needs to be a house cleaning in the front office, but the 90 year old owner is just trying not to die.
Derek - 7 years ago
I love the magic! It's gets harder and harder to watch. I liked the gm at first, but now don't know what the hell he is doing. Starting to understand why Skiles quit. Vogel needs to get a consistent line up. Ep can't get into rhythm if dj has twice the minutes off the bench. Vuc can't get into rhythm if overpaid biz had more minutes. Move ibaka to the bench and Gordon back to 4. And somebody please help Mario learn the game. There isn't any way there isn't a good development coach out there?
Larry - 7 years ago
Somewhere over on Discovery or Science Channell the are individuals alone in remote places trying to survive that are more exciting than this snoozefest!!!
Lorenzo - 7 years ago
I love the magic and I have been a season ticket holder for the last 9 years. This is the first time I am thinking about buying tickets in the ozone level just to keep my status and purchase individual tickets to good games next year. I cant continue to fork over thousands of dollars to see a team who is not giving it its all. 5 years in long enough.
matt - 7 years ago
Been a fan since day 1. Have followed them in recent years through the tough seasons, but it is getting harder and harder to do so with each game this year. They are painful to watch as their offense is atrocious. I find myself yelling at the TV more this year than ever before. My enthusiasm is definitely waning and I am definitely watching the team less. In prior years the team lost a lot of games but at least had some energy and enthusiasm. which the current players do not exhibit on a consistent basis, if ever. When I go to games, there does seem to be a lot of apathy and virtually no energy in the arena. It is sad.
Dennis - 7 years ago
If we trade Baka also add in Olidipo and other players and draft choices so yo see the real damage. 70plus million for biz, Are you kidding me. Hennigan was sold a bill of goods by a coach who wanted bigs when the game has gone small. We are looking at a total disaster unless we tank for a real pick and find a way to get out of the ridiculous Biz contract.
Vernon Mcgill - 7 years ago
It's not magic it's tragic. Magic have done a great job of trading away it's future every year. I can't watch it anymore.
Chuck - 7 years ago
I put my TV in a plexiglass glass box so when I throw my empty beer bottles at the TV it doesn't break. The more they lose the more IPA's I drink. At this rate I will be in rehab soon. I wonder if they will let me listen to your show in rehab?
ralph sheffler - 7 years ago
had season tickets for 10 years.....even enjoyed the first couple of years when the over matched players played hard....the parade of terrible GM's has killed the team and fan interest....Please dump this current loser, Hennigan....what did he get for Harrris, and Victor???......The Magic HAD a good GM years ago with a younger Pat Williams, but no, they brought in Gabriel, then Weisbond, then Otis, and now Rob.....,what a joke....Now after giving away two good players for nothing, he will dump Ibaka, who could care less anyway....not much future for this team in the near future....
Tom McDonald - 7 years ago
We may not care, but we still want to.
Don Anthony - 7 years ago
We were original season ticket holders for the 1st 15 years even though we drove 130 miles for every game living on the coast. Lost confidence in management and lack of direction. Now attend maybe 2-3 games a year and watch on TV only if nothing better is on. Watch Warriors games and enjoy their fast paced offense when ever on national broadcast. Thought Magic were in the right plan when they drafted Oladipo then they traded him. I am amazed at how many former Magic players are starting on other teams and leading their teams into the playoffs! One former hockey general manager was bad enough! What is the current gm's excuse for failure? Can't wait for baseball season to start.
Brandon Hanshaw - 7 years ago
The Magic are still in Orlando? How about that.
Rich C - 7 years ago
I love this team good or bad. It's important to me to stick with through anything. It isn't easy to build a winning team. If it were, everyone would be good. Unfortunately, someone's always at the bottom. One day the Magic will be back on top and it'll feel great because I never bailed. I just can't help it. For me, it's O town or no town. Yeah, they're frustrating right now but it's because I care so much. Magic 4 life.
Troy - 7 years ago
Poor draft picks. Payton is underwhelming. Hezonja can't even get into the rotation. Horrible trades. Sabonis and Oladipo for Ibaka on a presumed rental makes no sense. No foresight. Traded Harris after buyers remorse after giving him max. Not realizing in 2 yrs his contract look like a deal with the new cap. I can handle losing if the process is right. If we are developing and accumulating talent, losses arent as important. When u mortgage the future for a quick fix that fixed nothing its enraging watching them lose every other night. Did i mention they overpaid for Biyombo and basically hindered Gordons development to be the 5th worst team in the league? The product is unwatchable,
Steve Hill - 7 years ago
I normally catch every single Orlando game on the NBA app, and have found myself attending a few games as well in the past, as I live in Scotland that's quite difficult to do regularly, but I thought it was worth the late nights and the tired days at work.. but after about a month or two of this season, I found myself staying up late only to be left frustrated and stressed out yet again.. I can't see any end to this horror show which is the worst thing about it. If we were poor but showed signs of improvement it wouldn't be so bad.. I just can't see it, and I don't think many others can too.
Tammy Carson - 7 years ago
the devoss family is our problem it is a soft culture around the team everything is OK we don't believe you soft team loses that is why Scott left but hey cumbyaah everybody
Alexander - 7 years ago
It´s hard to watch your team playing like they are now. When atching the orlando magic games i feel the need to sleep, because there is no fire in the players to win the game, no ball movement, selfish and lethargic basketall playing. It has been an unbeliveable rollercoaster this year. There was a week in the beggining of the season where the orlando magic were the first defensive basketball team in the NBA, i think this was the only week i fell excited watching the games, where we got 4 out of 5 road wins in a row. Nevertheless, i can´t just blame the players, every trade the team has made the last years was so horrible. The Serge Ibaka trade was just awful, bad would be a compliment. Victor Oladipo was one of our best players last year and would easily be our franchise shooting guard. Anyway, it is time orlando magic makes something right, it can´t e possible that the management is so bad.
Maui - 7 years ago
I find myself just not into it anymore. I have always obsessed about this team but for the last 3 years I have just stop watching. Even when we were terrible before I would watch but something about the team makes me not even care. Their is just no love their between teammates and no fun what so ever. If I do catch a game in just not interested and change the channel. I think that we need a player we can stand behind and even if bad shows us maybe a glimpse of what we could be. Hopefully soon something jump starts this franchise because as of right it is sputtering to a complete stop
Anonymous - 7 years ago
Mike- Do the players really care whether they win? The obvious lack of effort that has led to multiple blowout losses, many at home, makes you wonder. If the players don't care why should the fans?
Scott Felker - 7 years ago
Mike, I am 33 and have followed this team from Day 1. My dad took me to my first game in 1991 and have been to countless games since. For the longest time I would watch every single game start to finish on TV, read article after article and would be legit angry after a loss. My wife even had a grooms cake made up for our wedding in the shape of the logo. The last five years have been beyond disappointing. Granted, I am married now with kids, so my free time isn't quite what it once was, but I find myself less and less concerned about whether the Magic win or lose. It is nearly like I have accepted our place in basketball purgatory. I use to love when the Magic were on the national stage. It just brought such pride and excitement to the city. Now, as a franchise it just seems like we are going through the motions and the fan base is following. I will always follow and support this team and will forever be a fan. However, it is very difficult when you feel like your team has little or nothing to play for.
Fred Barnes - 7 years ago
Lucky we have this $500 million arena to keep them around another 25 years.
Scott - 7 years ago
Basketball used to be my top sport to watch from the time i was 8-9 until probably about my junior year in college when college football knocked it down a notch. However i still loved basketball. I graduated and returned to Orlando just in time for the finals run in 2009. What a ride that was. We had a young nucleus and we were going to be good for a run of several years right?
Then Otis Smith decided he needed to tinker. He brought in his golden state crushes (keeping in mind this was from when golden state was a joke). One by one, the favorites all left. Rashard Lewis was traded for the only player in the league on a worse contract in Gilbert Arenas. Dwight decided he was too big for a dusty town like Orlando and in the process went from baby face media darling to an out of touch prima donna. Jameer, JJ and SVG would all follow and then we went full rebuild. A few forgettable coaching tenures, a few bad drafts and a few bad trades by our alleged wunderkind GM and here we are.
Meanwhile the NBA turned into a league where only 2-3 teams have a legit chance to win and all the stars want to play together in big markets rather than playing against each other. It started with the big three in Boston and continued in LA, Miami and, Cleveland and Golden State (as well as a hilarious attempt and failure at a big 3 in in NY). This makes me feel like i'm rooting for a farm team. Maybe we'll land a stud in this year's draft, so we'll spend a few years developing him and then we might have a 2-3 year window where they have a chance to make some real noise before he too heads for greener grass and another team reaps the benefits.
I went to 2 games last year and haven't been to a game yet this year. It really feels hopeless at this point, sure we can replace the GM and the coach and trade everyone, but there are other issues hurting the magic that are out of their control.
Stewy - 7 years ago
The NBA model is flawed. Stars want to play in big cities. Addidas and Nike dictate where stars play etc. There is no Promotion/Relegation like the English Premier League. If your team is bad there is no interest. In EPL if your team is at the bottom they have to keep fighting to the end to not get relegated to the lower division. This keeps the fans interested. EPL and soccer globally have one of the best systems I have seen to keep fans interested.
James brooks - 7 years ago
Great
Magic act-they have dissappeared on the court
Bruce - 7 years ago
After the mid way mark teams should discount the tickets by the winning percentage to which they are out of the playoffs. Only seems fair; I will not pay the same for burger that I will for a steak although they claim to both be beef.
Seems as if most players care about their paycheck and own glory. The fans and teammates are secondary. Players will quickly go to another team as soon as they qualify for free agency or whine until they get traded. Rooting for a team is only rooting for a shirt. Teams are not built they are bought. The need for new and better stadiums, increased revenue streams and such by the owners and padding the collective bargaining agreements by the players puts too much of the business aspect into the game.
Love OCSC, Society 21 member; hoping my cynicism does not start there as well.
Sal - 7 years ago
Teams that tanked more than we did over the years got the benefit of high draft picks. Our draft picks, trades, and managers prior to Vogel under Hennigan have been poor. This doesn't even address the poor player developement. I understand the limitations that small market teams face. Majority of other teams that fell on hard times have rebuilt, giving their fans some hope. I wonder whether De Vos is the right owner for this team. In sports, you are judged by the results of your decision making. This speaks poorly for Hennigan, Martin, & the ownership. The new stadium did not match a better product level for the money that was spent. I've been a fan since inception - very loyal and looking forward to a return to the past winning ways. Unfortunately, I'm starting to lose interest, and wonder if upper mgt is even capaple of turning this around. Would love to be optimistic again. Go Magic???
Linda Ross - 7 years ago
Magic die hard for ever! Season ticket holder for 9 years and I don't care if I go to the games or not! I can't believe I'm saying that. We will renew but downgrade our seats so as to keep our status, however, for big games we will just purchase single games. Hate to spend so much money and watch outplayers keep getting traded and then watch them in the playoffs! Wish Martins would go!!!
Rafael Perez - 7 years ago
I've always been a Magic fan, since the Penny and Shaq days. It is frustrating to see them struggle how they have and I'm sure basketball has been boring for fans with no legit superstar. The Golden State Warriors went almost 10yrs without making the playoffs n I'm sure now every one is on that bandwagon. Same Cleveland after LeBron left . So yea it's frustrating but fans are fans and we will be patient. Our turn will come around again . Just like stonewashed jeans, people laugh today but tomorrow Everyone will be wearing them!
Ryan - 7 years ago
I was born and raised in Orlando, proud alum of Boone High School and graduate school at UCF. Although I haven't lived there in nearly 20 years, I still bleed blue and black, a diehard Magic fan. I've been in Salt Lake City for over a decade now, and I'm only now starting to warm up to the Jazz. I'm one of about a dozen people that comes out to the Magic's annual trip through Utah, supporting my former-hometown team. I pay an inordinate amount of money for the NBA League Pass, so I can watch low-def ball and listen to David Steele and Jeff Turner wax poetic about better times passed and better times to come, with the annual hope that "this year is the year we finally turn the corner on the rebuild." But your sentiment is right on - the level of interest has fallen. Precipitously. In a downward spiral perpetually headed toward NBA-mediocrity hell. Philadelphia had "the process," and although they were nothing short of an abomination for a couple of years, at least they now have something to show for it. We have been just slightly above an abomination for years, and we have next to nothing to show for it. I was genuinely optimistic for this season. The Ibaka trade? Oladipo never really moved the needle for me anyway, and we'd have had to overpay him if we kept him (and we'd still have a backcourt that couldn't hit the broad side of Amway Arena from outside the paint). The free agents? Finally, some guys that have actually played and put up numbers in the league. Vogel? He's like Skiles, but with better X's and O's, better relations with players, better leadership, better demeanor...so, he's just better at all the things he should be better at. Certainly some persistent roster and organization flaws, but at least I felt a little justified about the ridiculous amount I paid Comcast so I watch them for 82 games. And then they rolled the ball out. Is it February 23rd yet? Is Super Mario in the D-League yet? Has Serge fled and left us with nothing yet? Is Hennigan back filling water bottles for Kawhi yet? Can we get City games in the new stadium on the bar TV yet? At least MLS Direct Kick leaves enough in my pocket to buy decent beer (yes, we have that in Utah). Here's to another lost season and the hope that there's something to drive the interest next year. Who knows, maybe AG00 will pogo his way into Camping World Stadium for the 2018 Pro Bowl as the next freak tight end crossover.
David Carlos - 7 years ago
I've always been a die hard fan of the Magic ever since we first moved here, back in 93'. But with our GM and the powers above I find it ever so hard to like my teams progress. We've had 3 exciting eras mixed in with some subpar seasons. I know we will get back to relevancy...or hope that is. It is hard to have faith in that when the organization let's go of some young talent like Harris, and Oladipo. We consistently lose every trade and that is what bothers us real Magic Fans. We need some that can execute the "eye tests" in management and make the best choices. It seems like I could run the Magic, albeit some human psychology and business management courses. I'm not looking to be disrespectful but just objective and stating what most people feel. Bad signings and trades have caused us to resent management and at some point in this era, Whether it was early or late in this entire process.
Started losing interest in 2013 when they fraised my season ticket prices 50%. In 2014 they raised them again by 75%. In 2015 i bought a partial season package. In 2016 i bought a two month package that ended in November and I havent been back since. The team has become a farm team for the real contenders. No heart! No hussle! They are not competative and not even interesting. Overpaid for Turgulou! Traded away Gortat! Overpaid for Harris! Overpaid for Fournier. They make trade deals that have no value for themselves. Cant land a real Star! Its a Lose! Lose! Lose! Way of life for them now. Thank yiu Jacque Vaughn!
You have an owner living in MI that put a guy in charge that's more worried about getting to his south beach tanning sessions, than running a proper front office. I stoped watching when Vaughn was hired as coach out of spite. And sure enough, its a shot show ever sense. But why should they care about being good. Being from Washington D.C. I'm used to cut throat media and fans that expect the best year in and out. Here they continue to sell out games when they are garbage. Until DeVos gets hit in the wallet, there is no reason to change. Most of the Magic fans I talk to are gullible beyond belief and live on another planet. There needs to be a house cleaning in the front office, but the 90 year old owner is just trying not to die.
I love the magic! It's gets harder and harder to watch. I liked the gm at first, but now don't know what the hell he is doing. Starting to understand why Skiles quit. Vogel needs to get a consistent line up. Ep can't get into rhythm if dj has twice the minutes off the bench. Vuc can't get into rhythm if overpaid biz had more minutes. Move ibaka to the bench and Gordon back to 4. And somebody please help Mario learn the game. There isn't any way there isn't a good development coach out there?
Somewhere over on Discovery or Science Channell the are individuals alone in remote places trying to survive that are more exciting than this snoozefest!!!
I love the magic and I have been a season ticket holder for the last 9 years. This is the first time I am thinking about buying tickets in the ozone level just to keep my status and purchase individual tickets to good games next year. I cant continue to fork over thousands of dollars to see a team who is not giving it its all. 5 years in long enough.
Been a fan since day 1. Have followed them in recent years through the tough seasons, but it is getting harder and harder to do so with each game this year. They are painful to watch as their offense is atrocious. I find myself yelling at the TV more this year than ever before. My enthusiasm is definitely waning and I am definitely watching the team less. In prior years the team lost a lot of games but at least had some energy and enthusiasm. which the current players do not exhibit on a consistent basis, if ever. When I go to games, there does seem to be a lot of apathy and virtually no energy in the arena. It is sad.
If we trade Baka also add in Olidipo and other players and draft choices so yo see the real damage. 70plus million for biz, Are you kidding me. Hennigan was sold a bill of goods by a coach who wanted bigs when the game has gone small. We are looking at a total disaster unless we tank for a real pick and find a way to get out of the ridiculous Biz contract.
It's not magic it's tragic. Magic have done a great job of trading away it's future every year. I can't watch it anymore.
I put my TV in a plexiglass glass box so when I throw my empty beer bottles at the TV it doesn't break. The more they lose the more IPA's I drink. At this rate I will be in rehab soon. I wonder if they will let me listen to your show in rehab?
had season tickets for 10 years.....even enjoyed the first couple of years when the over matched players played hard....the parade of terrible GM's has killed the team and fan interest....Please dump this current loser, Hennigan....what did he get for Harrris, and Victor???......The Magic HAD a good GM years ago with a younger Pat Williams, but no, they brought in Gabriel, then Weisbond, then Otis, and now Rob.....,what a joke....Now after giving away two good players for nothing, he will dump Ibaka, who could care less anyway....not much future for this team in the near future....
We may not care, but we still want to.
We were original season ticket holders for the 1st 15 years even though we drove 130 miles for every game living on the coast. Lost confidence in management and lack of direction. Now attend maybe 2-3 games a year and watch on TV only if nothing better is on. Watch Warriors games and enjoy their fast paced offense when ever on national broadcast. Thought Magic were in the right plan when they drafted Oladipo then they traded him. I am amazed at how many former Magic players are starting on other teams and leading their teams into the playoffs! One former hockey general manager was bad enough! What is the current gm's excuse for failure? Can't wait for baseball season to start.
The Magic are still in Orlando? How about that.
I love this team good or bad. It's important to me to stick with through anything. It isn't easy to build a winning team. If it were, everyone would be good. Unfortunately, someone's always at the bottom. One day the Magic will be back on top and it'll feel great because I never bailed. I just can't help it. For me, it's O town or no town. Yeah, they're frustrating right now but it's because I care so much. Magic 4 life.
Poor draft picks. Payton is underwhelming. Hezonja can't even get into the rotation. Horrible trades. Sabonis and Oladipo for Ibaka on a presumed rental makes no sense. No foresight. Traded Harris after buyers remorse after giving him max. Not realizing in 2 yrs his contract look like a deal with the new cap. I can handle losing if the process is right. If we are developing and accumulating talent, losses arent as important. When u mortgage the future for a quick fix that fixed nothing its enraging watching them lose every other night. Did i mention they overpaid for Biyombo and basically hindered Gordons development to be the 5th worst team in the league? The product is unwatchable,
I normally catch every single Orlando game on the NBA app, and have found myself attending a few games as well in the past, as I live in Scotland that's quite difficult to do regularly, but I thought it was worth the late nights and the tired days at work.. but after about a month or two of this season, I found myself staying up late only to be left frustrated and stressed out yet again.. I can't see any end to this horror show which is the worst thing about it. If we were poor but showed signs of improvement it wouldn't be so bad.. I just can't see it, and I don't think many others can too.
the devoss family is our problem it is a soft culture around the team everything is OK we don't believe you soft team loses that is why Scott left but hey cumbyaah everybody
It´s hard to watch your team playing like they are now. When atching the orlando magic games i feel the need to sleep, because there is no fire in the players to win the game, no ball movement, selfish and lethargic basketall playing. It has been an unbeliveable rollercoaster this year. There was a week in the beggining of the season where the orlando magic were the first defensive basketball team in the NBA, i think this was the only week i fell excited watching the games, where we got 4 out of 5 road wins in a row. Nevertheless, i can´t just blame the players, every trade the team has made the last years was so horrible. The Serge Ibaka trade was just awful, bad would be a compliment. Victor Oladipo was one of our best players last year and would easily be our franchise shooting guard. Anyway, it is time orlando magic makes something right, it can´t e possible that the management is so bad.
I find myself just not into it anymore. I have always obsessed about this team but for the last 3 years I have just stop watching. Even when we were terrible before I would watch but something about the team makes me not even care. Their is just no love their between teammates and no fun what so ever. If I do catch a game in just not interested and change the channel. I think that we need a player we can stand behind and even if bad shows us maybe a glimpse of what we could be. Hopefully soon something jump starts this franchise because as of right it is sputtering to a complete stop
Mike- Do the players really care whether they win? The obvious lack of effort that has led to multiple blowout losses, many at home, makes you wonder. If the players don't care why should the fans?
Mike, I am 33 and have followed this team from Day 1. My dad took me to my first game in 1991 and have been to countless games since. For the longest time I would watch every single game start to finish on TV, read article after article and would be legit angry after a loss. My wife even had a grooms cake made up for our wedding in the shape of the logo. The last five years have been beyond disappointing. Granted, I am married now with kids, so my free time isn't quite what it once was, but I find myself less and less concerned about whether the Magic win or lose. It is nearly like I have accepted our place in basketball purgatory. I use to love when the Magic were on the national stage. It just brought such pride and excitement to the city. Now, as a franchise it just seems like we are going through the motions and the fan base is following. I will always follow and support this team and will forever be a fan. However, it is very difficult when you feel like your team has little or nothing to play for.
Lucky we have this $500 million arena to keep them around another 25 years.
Basketball used to be my top sport to watch from the time i was 8-9 until probably about my junior year in college when college football knocked it down a notch. However i still loved basketball. I graduated and returned to Orlando just in time for the finals run in 2009. What a ride that was. We had a young nucleus and we were going to be good for a run of several years right?
Then Otis Smith decided he needed to tinker. He brought in his golden state crushes (keeping in mind this was from when golden state was a joke). One by one, the favorites all left. Rashard Lewis was traded for the only player in the league on a worse contract in Gilbert Arenas. Dwight decided he was too big for a dusty town like Orlando and in the process went from baby face media darling to an out of touch prima donna. Jameer, JJ and SVG would all follow and then we went full rebuild. A few forgettable coaching tenures, a few bad drafts and a few bad trades by our alleged wunderkind GM and here we are.
Meanwhile the NBA turned into a league where only 2-3 teams have a legit chance to win and all the stars want to play together in big markets rather than playing against each other. It started with the big three in Boston and continued in LA, Miami and, Cleveland and Golden State (as well as a hilarious attempt and failure at a big 3 in in NY). This makes me feel like i'm rooting for a farm team. Maybe we'll land a stud in this year's draft, so we'll spend a few years developing him and then we might have a 2-3 year window where they have a chance to make some real noise before he too heads for greener grass and another team reaps the benefits.
I went to 2 games last year and haven't been to a game yet this year. It really feels hopeless at this point, sure we can replace the GM and the coach and trade everyone, but there are other issues hurting the magic that are out of their control.
The NBA model is flawed. Stars want to play in big cities. Addidas and Nike dictate where stars play etc. There is no Promotion/Relegation like the English Premier League. If your team is bad there is no interest. In EPL if your team is at the bottom they have to keep fighting to the end to not get relegated to the lower division. This keeps the fans interested. EPL and soccer globally have one of the best systems I have seen to keep fans interested.
Great
Magic act-they have dissappeared on the court
After the mid way mark teams should discount the tickets by the winning percentage to which they are out of the playoffs. Only seems fair; I will not pay the same for burger that I will for a steak although they claim to both be beef.
Seems as if most players care about their paycheck and own glory. The fans and teammates are secondary. Players will quickly go to another team as soon as they qualify for free agency or whine until they get traded. Rooting for a team is only rooting for a shirt. Teams are not built they are bought. The need for new and better stadiums, increased revenue streams and such by the owners and padding the collective bargaining agreements by the players puts too much of the business aspect into the game.
Love OCSC, Society 21 member; hoping my cynicism does not start there as well.
Teams that tanked more than we did over the years got the benefit of high draft picks. Our draft picks, trades, and managers prior to Vogel under Hennigan have been poor. This doesn't even address the poor player developement. I understand the limitations that small market teams face. Majority of other teams that fell on hard times have rebuilt, giving their fans some hope. I wonder whether De Vos is the right owner for this team. In sports, you are judged by the results of your decision making. This speaks poorly for Hennigan, Martin, & the ownership. The new stadium did not match a better product level for the money that was spent. I've been a fan since inception - very loyal and looking forward to a return to the past winning ways. Unfortunately, I'm starting to lose interest, and wonder if upper mgt is even capaple of turning this around. Would love to be optimistic again. Go Magic???
Magic die hard for ever! Season ticket holder for 9 years and I don't care if I go to the games or not! I can't believe I'm saying that. We will renew but downgrade our seats so as to keep our status, however, for big games we will just purchase single games. Hate to spend so much money and watch outplayers keep getting traded and then watch them in the playoffs! Wish Martins would go!!!
I've always been a Magic fan, since the Penny and Shaq days. It is frustrating to see them struggle how they have and I'm sure basketball has been boring for fans with no legit superstar. The Golden State Warriors went almost 10yrs without making the playoffs n I'm sure now every one is on that bandwagon. Same Cleveland after LeBron left . So yea it's frustrating but fans are fans and we will be patient. Our turn will come around again . Just like stonewashed jeans, people laugh today but tomorrow Everyone will be wearing them!
I was born and raised in Orlando, proud alum of Boone High School and graduate school at UCF. Although I haven't lived there in nearly 20 years, I still bleed blue and black, a diehard Magic fan. I've been in Salt Lake City for over a decade now, and I'm only now starting to warm up to the Jazz. I'm one of about a dozen people that comes out to the Magic's annual trip through Utah, supporting my former-hometown team. I pay an inordinate amount of money for the NBA League Pass, so I can watch low-def ball and listen to David Steele and Jeff Turner wax poetic about better times passed and better times to come, with the annual hope that "this year is the year we finally turn the corner on the rebuild." But your sentiment is right on - the level of interest has fallen. Precipitously. In a downward spiral perpetually headed toward NBA-mediocrity hell. Philadelphia had "the process," and although they were nothing short of an abomination for a couple of years, at least they now have something to show for it. We have been just slightly above an abomination for years, and we have next to nothing to show for it. I was genuinely optimistic for this season. The Ibaka trade? Oladipo never really moved the needle for me anyway, and we'd have had to overpay him if we kept him (and we'd still have a backcourt that couldn't hit the broad side of Amway Arena from outside the paint). The free agents? Finally, some guys that have actually played and put up numbers in the league. Vogel? He's like Skiles, but with better X's and O's, better relations with players, better leadership, better demeanor...so, he's just better at all the things he should be better at. Certainly some persistent roster and organization flaws, but at least I felt a little justified about the ridiculous amount I paid Comcast so I watch them for 82 games. And then they rolled the ball out. Is it February 23rd yet? Is Super Mario in the D-League yet? Has Serge fled and left us with nothing yet? Is Hennigan back filling water bottles for Kawhi yet? Can we get City games in the new stadium on the bar TV yet? At least MLS Direct Kick leaves enough in my pocket to buy decent beer (yes, we have that in Utah). Here's to another lost season and the hope that there's something to drive the interest next year. Who knows, maybe AG00 will pogo his way into Camping World Stadium for the 2018 Pro Bowl as the next freak tight end crossover.
I've always been a die hard fan of the Magic ever since we first moved here, back in 93'. But with our GM and the powers above I find it ever so hard to like my teams progress. We've had 3 exciting eras mixed in with some subpar seasons. I know we will get back to relevancy...or hope that is. It is hard to have faith in that when the organization let's go of some young talent like Harris, and Oladipo. We consistently lose every trade and that is what bothers us real Magic Fans. We need some that can execute the "eye tests" in management and make the best choices. It seems like I could run the Magic, albeit some human psychology and business management courses. I'm not looking to be disrespectful but just objective and stating what most people feel. Bad signings and trades have caused us to resent management and at some point in this era, Whether it was early or late in this entire process.