WKRN, respectfully submitted: if you were trying to bias people to give a certain type an answer, (perhaps the most tabloid-sensational choice,) congrats. Ya did it! Please—you didn't ask the question fairly. You did not give context. Who wouldn't answer affirmative to that question. But that's the problem. There are exceptions. Individuals with certain medical conditions. hidden disAbilities, those caring for aging parents, individuals carrying for special needs children. And about those, to quote a friend:
"Yeah, people don't understand that with children with disabilities over 6 need care that cannot always be provided by the school's after-care programs, nor do they understand if a child has seizures, they end up having to stay home multiple days a week, nor do they understand the time off necessary to go to doctors' appointments, IEP [lengthy, *detailed* special education] meetings, therapies, and that most low-paying jobs don't offer paid time off for those things. Sigh...."
People, please have compassion for other human beings. And, WKRN, tell the whole story about how our state will be spending a lot of money to only affect "change" and kick a few undeserving individuals, mostly poor mothers, and their children off their healthcare. SMH
Bobby Stewart - 6 years ago
I want to clarify a moot point of the parents that have children over six years old volunteering/working 20 hours a week. Most children over six years old should be in school for at least 20 hours a week. This would provide a window of opportunity for the parent to meet the requirement in exchange for my tax dollars supporting their household. Furthermore, being a productive member of society and giving back is good for those serving as well as those that they serve.
Sherrie Raymond - 6 years ago
According to a recent FaceBook post, Sen. Robert claims this will affect a "very small number" of people and that the $39 million cost estimate by TNCare itself should be ignored. This dismissive stance shows a determination to get legislation passed not because it will be beneficial for TN & taxpayers but because it's a feather in his cap, so to speak. No one wants ineligibles on any kind of assistance but to exempt from a work requirement only those with children under 6 ignores the fact that childcare would be necessary for those from 6 to at least 12 and would be prohibitively expensive if those parents were forced to return to work to maintain health coverage. Take a lesson from the drug testing debacle of applicants for state assistance - the cost of administering the initiative will far outweigh any benefit achieved.
The way the question is worded and much of the debate is framed many people think there is widespread abuse and many on TennCare have the ability to work. It's just not true. Many on TennCare are to young or old to work, some are in between jobs, but looking. But many have a variety of health issues you typically wouldn't wish on someone you didn't like. Some of these issues are internal. That is from the outside the person looks fine, but they have no stamina or strength. I have my own insurance, but last year I had a health issue (a torn artery) that left me looking fine, but after walking through the grocery store I would have to take a nap. This idea of work requirements is really just pandering to voters who have never been fully made aware of the issues. It sounds good...make the cheaters work, get the freeloaders off their bums. Reality is not quite so black and white.
JoSixPak - 6 years ago
IEATBUBBLES has munched way too many magic mushrooms. His brain is fried and is only capable of rudimentary thought. Typical of leftist democrat wingnuts..
IEATBUBBLES - 6 years ago
The GOP is the party obsessed with limiting a woman's right to healthcare...including abortion.
So they want to say "save the babies!", yet have no regard for the mother when these babies become of "school-age"???
Anyone who doesn't understand the movement for Women's rights, needs to watch Tennessee for a minute.
The bills that get monetary pushes in this state are the anti-Christ!
IEATBUBBLES - 6 years ago
"Over the age of six" is saying that schools will be able to babysit while a parent is at work.
Schools are not daycare!!!
Schools are for learning!!!
If a child is experiencing a medical condition, we call the parent to come get them.
Since when did schools become daycares/hospitals/armed guards all rolled into one??!!
Tennessee needs to cut the BS!
IEATBUBBLES - 6 years ago
Don't you people realize that the real crooks will still be able to play the system?
They have nothing but time, and will network amongst their loser extended family to show proof of "volunteer work".
This is only hurting poor parents whose circumstances don't fit into a neat, tidy box of generalization.
A disabled child deserves to have a parent with access to Medicaid.
Who will take care of the child if the parent dies?
The government?
Marsha Blackburn?
You?
There are simply families who don't fit the mold, and they will be the ones to suffer from this....not the actual crooks.
Shirley Blankenship - 6 years ago
My vote is yes because I have worked in a pharmacy and know how abused it is. I am 72 years old, had cancer 4 times and I still work part time. I was raised to work for what you have. I just don't have time for free loaders.
Thank you
IEATBUBBLES - 6 years ago
Seems like the "conservative" party is also happy to throw around taxpayer money like confetti. The question is, which party has the well-being of the people in their hearts?
Do any of you who voted "yes" even wonder where the money comes from to oversee these requirements?
The government won't spend enough money on necessary workers as it is.
I see they're also fired up about that "In god we trust" false-idol worship to be plastered on our schools.
I wonder what mega-church is donating to lawmakers who vote "yes".
I wonder if these mega-churches would rather support fixing the structural problems at our schools or help to increase school security.
Why do the conservatives never do anything useful for anyone other than themselves?
They are glad to waste our money on their powertrip.
Beth Harwell should be ashamed to be a woman.
She is stabbing at poor mothers just to get her slice of the power cake.
John - 6 years ago
Responsibility...if you want a benefit, then you should contribute to the whole. Nothing is free, including that child when he/she entered this world. People forget many of these benefits are just that...a benefit and not a right. Today many feel they have these rights just because they can fill their air with lungs. We all need help at various stages in our life, but lets not forget we have to also add to the pie some way and not be a total drain on society. By the way...having a child is easy but the responsibility is huge so think before you play. I too am tired of freeloaders that can't take responsibility for their actions.
Working woman - 6 years ago
Need to quit saying women with children don't have to work that just gives them a reason to keep having kids,tired of taking care of lazy people
Thomas Strong - 6 years ago
The poll is flawed. It doesn't recognize recipients of TennCare who have a physical or mental disability which prohibits them from being able to work. The question should be changed to what the proposed law says, using the word "able-bodied".
Yeah I said it - 6 years ago
The people that keeps having multiple children are draining the system. Maybe if they set limits to a two baby max..then maybe these girls would close their legs and stop producing because they won't have free medical care.. Yes.. They need to WORK!!!!
Reap What You Sow - 6 years ago
I do not know how the USA is in existence. When the 1st settlers arrived and could not find the food stamp office, the rent voucher office, the TNCare office, and the welfare and earned income credit office it is a wonder they did not flee this hell hole immediately. There wasn't one social worker to be found anywhere.
The first settlers at Jamestown even tried socialism and the Democrats refused to work but wanted others to GIVE them what others had worked for. They damn near starved to death. The 2nd year they decided everyone would reap what they sowed and eureka capitalism was born. Unfortunately the ancestors of those first lazy Democrats still live today and are still wanting others to provide for them.
JoSixPak - 6 years ago
If you are physically unable to care for kids, take steps to avoid pregnancy. It is called RESPONSIBILITY.
And, quit with all the pain nonsense—it is called a CRUTCH. Exercise, eat correctly, and you will at least be able to volunteer for short periods.
Carry your weight and quit taking charity.
Jamie Stephens - 6 years ago
Some of us (poor mothers) have a legitimate disability. However because we don't meet every qualification for disability. We are denied over and over again. That then automatically puts us in the Able bodied group. I wish some of those making these decisions would try treating us as individuals. In place if lumping us in categories. We don't all fit in a nice neat box that you can put a check mark through. I wish I could go to work every day to a Job I love. But my body says No. Today you will hurt. But hey no pain meds because you might become addicted..So what option am I left with but to sit home and suffer. While taking care of my kids the best I can through the pain.
JoSixPak - 6 years ago
@ieatdogpoo:
You deal with a sick kid, just like employed people. It is called responsibility.
Sincerely,
A disgruntled taxpayer who hates freeloaders
IEATBUBBLES - 6 years ago
This is basically suggesting that school is a daycare, so you should go work while your kid is at school.
What happens when your kid is sick for multiple days?
Some folks don't have anyone to babysit for them, so they have to miss work to care for their sick kid (which is where they should be when their kid needs them).
WKRN, respectfully submitted: if you were trying to bias people to give a certain type an answer, (perhaps the most tabloid-sensational choice,) congrats. Ya did it! Please—you didn't ask the question fairly. You did not give context. Who wouldn't answer affirmative to that question. But that's the problem. There are exceptions. Individuals with certain medical conditions. hidden disAbilities, those caring for aging parents, individuals carrying for special needs children. And about those, to quote a friend:
"Yeah, people don't understand that with children with disabilities over 6 need care that cannot always be provided by the school's after-care programs, nor do they understand if a child has seizures, they end up having to stay home multiple days a week, nor do they understand the time off necessary to go to doctors' appointments, IEP [lengthy, *detailed* special education] meetings, therapies, and that most low-paying jobs don't offer paid time off for those things. Sigh...."
People, please have compassion for other human beings. And, WKRN, tell the whole story about how our state will be spending a lot of money to only affect "change" and kick a few undeserving individuals, mostly poor mothers, and their children off their healthcare. SMH
I want to clarify a moot point of the parents that have children over six years old volunteering/working 20 hours a week. Most children over six years old should be in school for at least 20 hours a week. This would provide a window of opportunity for the parent to meet the requirement in exchange for my tax dollars supporting their household. Furthermore, being a productive member of society and giving back is good for those serving as well as those that they serve.
According to a recent FaceBook post, Sen. Robert claims this will affect a "very small number" of people and that the $39 million cost estimate by TNCare itself should be ignored. This dismissive stance shows a determination to get legislation passed not because it will be beneficial for TN & taxpayers but because it's a feather in his cap, so to speak. No one wants ineligibles on any kind of assistance but to exempt from a work requirement only those with children under 6 ignores the fact that childcare would be necessary for those from 6 to at least 12 and would be prohibitively expensive if those parents were forced to return to work to maintain health coverage. Take a lesson from the drug testing debacle of applicants for state assistance - the cost of administering the initiative will far outweigh any benefit achieved.
The way the question is worded and much of the debate is framed many people think there is widespread abuse and many on TennCare have the ability to work. It's just not true. Many on TennCare are to young or old to work, some are in between jobs, but looking. But many have a variety of health issues you typically wouldn't wish on someone you didn't like. Some of these issues are internal. That is from the outside the person looks fine, but they have no stamina or strength. I have my own insurance, but last year I had a health issue (a torn artery) that left me looking fine, but after walking through the grocery store I would have to take a nap. This idea of work requirements is really just pandering to voters who have never been fully made aware of the issues. It sounds good...make the cheaters work, get the freeloaders off their bums. Reality is not quite so black and white.
IEATBUBBLES has munched way too many magic mushrooms. His brain is fried and is only capable of rudimentary thought. Typical of leftist democrat wingnuts..
The GOP is the party obsessed with limiting a woman's right to healthcare...including abortion.
So they want to say "save the babies!", yet have no regard for the mother when these babies become of "school-age"???
Anyone who doesn't understand the movement for Women's rights, needs to watch Tennessee for a minute.
The bills that get monetary pushes in this state are the anti-Christ!
"Over the age of six" is saying that schools will be able to babysit while a parent is at work.
Schools are not daycare!!!
Schools are for learning!!!
If a child is experiencing a medical condition, we call the parent to come get them.
Since when did schools become daycares/hospitals/armed guards all rolled into one??!!
Tennessee needs to cut the BS!
Don't you people realize that the real crooks will still be able to play the system?
They have nothing but time, and will network amongst their loser extended family to show proof of "volunteer work".
This is only hurting poor parents whose circumstances don't fit into a neat, tidy box of generalization.
A disabled child deserves to have a parent with access to Medicaid.
Who will take care of the child if the parent dies?
The government?
Marsha Blackburn?
You?
There are simply families who don't fit the mold, and they will be the ones to suffer from this....not the actual crooks.
My vote is yes because I have worked in a pharmacy and know how abused it is. I am 72 years old, had cancer 4 times and I still work part time. I was raised to work for what you have. I just don't have time for free loaders.
Thank you
Seems like the "conservative" party is also happy to throw around taxpayer money like confetti. The question is, which party has the well-being of the people in their hearts?
Do any of you who voted "yes" even wonder where the money comes from to oversee these requirements?
The government won't spend enough money on necessary workers as it is.
I see they're also fired up about that "In god we trust" false-idol worship to be plastered on our schools.
I wonder what mega-church is donating to lawmakers who vote "yes".
I wonder if these mega-churches would rather support fixing the structural problems at our schools or help to increase school security.
Why do the conservatives never do anything useful for anyone other than themselves?
They are glad to waste our money on their powertrip.
Beth Harwell should be ashamed to be a woman.
She is stabbing at poor mothers just to get her slice of the power cake.
Responsibility...if you want a benefit, then you should contribute to the whole. Nothing is free, including that child when he/she entered this world. People forget many of these benefits are just that...a benefit and not a right. Today many feel they have these rights just because they can fill their air with lungs. We all need help at various stages in our life, but lets not forget we have to also add to the pie some way and not be a total drain on society. By the way...having a child is easy but the responsibility is huge so think before you play. I too am tired of freeloaders that can't take responsibility for their actions.
Need to quit saying women with children don't have to work that just gives them a reason to keep having kids,tired of taking care of lazy people
The poll is flawed. It doesn't recognize recipients of TennCare who have a physical or mental disability which prohibits them from being able to work. The question should be changed to what the proposed law says, using the word "able-bodied".
The people that keeps having multiple children are draining the system. Maybe if they set limits to a two baby max..then maybe these girls would close their legs and stop producing because they won't have free medical care.. Yes.. They need to WORK!!!!
I do not know how the USA is in existence. When the 1st settlers arrived and could not find the food stamp office, the rent voucher office, the TNCare office, and the welfare and earned income credit office it is a wonder they did not flee this hell hole immediately. There wasn't one social worker to be found anywhere.
The first settlers at Jamestown even tried socialism and the Democrats refused to work but wanted others to GIVE them what others had worked for. They damn near starved to death. The 2nd year they decided everyone would reap what they sowed and eureka capitalism was born. Unfortunately the ancestors of those first lazy Democrats still live today and are still wanting others to provide for them.
If you are physically unable to care for kids, take steps to avoid pregnancy. It is called RESPONSIBILITY.
And, quit with all the pain nonsense—it is called a CRUTCH. Exercise, eat correctly, and you will at least be able to volunteer for short periods.
Carry your weight and quit taking charity.
Some of us (poor mothers) have a legitimate disability. However because we don't meet every qualification for disability. We are denied over and over again. That then automatically puts us in the Able bodied group. I wish some of those making these decisions would try treating us as individuals. In place if lumping us in categories. We don't all fit in a nice neat box that you can put a check mark through. I wish I could go to work every day to a Job I love. But my body says No. Today you will hurt. But hey no pain meds because you might become addicted..So what option am I left with but to sit home and suffer. While taking care of my kids the best I can through the pain.
@ieatdogpoo:
You deal with a sick kid, just like employed people. It is called responsibility.
Sincerely,
A disgruntled taxpayer who hates freeloaders
This is basically suggesting that school is a daycare, so you should go work while your kid is at school.
What happens when your kid is sick for multiple days?
Some folks don't have anyone to babysit for them, so they have to miss work to care for their sick kid (which is where they should be when their kid needs them).